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Olli Jokinen headed to NYR? (CONFIRMED)

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Re: Olli Jokinen headed to NYR? (CONFIRMED)

Post by sens4win on Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:25 pm

SpezDispenser wrote:
sens4win wrote:i would want doughty no way i would get him i would want kopitar slim chance but faire trade a first probable and schenn for the fun of it.


That dial tone you hear is LA hanging up on you. They need Kopitar to challenge for the Cup.

Only non-roster players please!

thats what burke should have been hearing on sunday

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Post by SpezDispenser on Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:31 pm

sens4win wrote:thats what burke should have been hearing on sunday


I'm not sure...that could have been the shrewdest trade ever. Phaneuf was the black plague eating at the locker room of the Flames and Sutter got back Hagman (great player, great character), White (good player, awesome character), Stajan (decent player, good character).

The other black plague? Olli Jokinen, who's probably playing one of his last games ever as a Flame. He's gone by the deadline.

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Post by PKC on Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:39 pm

SpezDispenser wrote:
sens4win wrote:thats what burke should have been hearing on sunday


I'm not sure...that could have been the shrewdest trade ever. Phaneuf was the black plague eating at the locker room of the Flames and Sutter got back Hagman (great player, great character), White (good player, awesome character), Stajan (decent player, good character).

The other black plague? Olli Jokinen, who's probably playing one of his last games ever as a Flame. He's gone by the deadline.


He's gone by tonight/tomorrow morning according to Dreger.

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Re: Olli Jokinen headed to NYR? (CONFIRMED)

Post by SpezDispenser on Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:41 pm

PKC wrote:
He's gone by tonight/tomorrow morning according to Dreger.


Fair enough. When did he say that? And what's the trade, do you know?

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Post by SpezDispenser on Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:44 pm

Sutter is apparently insisting that if he takes Kotalik, he gets Callahan. Interesting...

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Post by PKC on Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:49 pm

SpezDispenser wrote:Sutter is apparently insisting that if he takes Kotalik, he gets Callahan. Interesting...


What the hell? It's obvious all 3 of the GMs have lost their collective minds.

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Post by rooneypoo on Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:05 pm

SpezDispenser wrote:Sutter is apparently insisting that if he takes Kotalik, he gets Callahan. Interesting...


Callahan is a better player than either Kotalik or Higgins... than both combined, in fact.

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Post by hemlock on Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:17 pm

SpezDispenser wrote:Fan 960 Calgary and they said tomorrow they are expected to announce Kovalchuk for Kotalik, Boyd and 1st round pick (2011).

SD says:

Worst trade in history.


No kidding. The best piece of that package, the 1st, isn't that great either with 2011 looking to be a weak draft.

This is got to be the move that gets Waddell run out of town. I just can't believe there is any truth to this.

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Re: Olli Jokinen headed to NYR? (CONFIRMED)

Post by SpezDispenser on Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:33 pm

rooneypoo wrote:
Callahan is a better player than either Kotalik or Higgins... than both combined, in fact.


I call BS even though it makes sense. If we take your horrendous salary dump, we get a decent player. But Callahan? I dunno...that smells of bad move. Not to mention adding Jokinen, but he could be neat to watch in NY.

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Re: Olli Jokinen headed to NYR? (CONFIRMED)

Post by M_Christopher on Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:37 pm

hemlock wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:Fan 960 Calgary and they said tomorrow they are expected to announce Kovalchuk for Kotalik, Boyd and 1st round pick (2011).

SD says:

Worst trade in history.


No kidding. The best piece of that package, the 1st, isn't that great either with 2011 looking to be a weak draft.

This is got to be the move that gets Waddell run out of town. I just can't believe there is any truth to this.


Wow, as bad as Eklund is....the Fan comes out and tops him

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Re: Olli Jokinen headed to NYR? (CONFIRMED)

Post by hemlock on Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:41 pm

M_Christopher wrote:
hemlock wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:Fan 960 Calgary and they said tomorrow they are expected to announce Kovalchuk for Kotalik, Boyd and 1st round pick (2011).

SD says:

Worst trade in history.


No kidding. The best piece of that package, the 1st, isn't that great either with 2011 looking to be a weak draft.

This is got to be the move that gets Waddell run out of town. I just can't believe there is any truth to this.


Wow, as bad as Eklund is....the Fan comes out and tops him




I guess the statute of limitation on talking Dung about Eklund has run out already?

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Re: Olli Jokinen headed to NYR? (CONFIRMED)

Post by SpezDispenser on Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:01 am

Dreger two minutes ago:

"Jokinen and Prust look good tonight. Wonder how they'll look tomorrow in Rangers blue?"


In other news, the Flames want to leave the ice early to pack his Dung up for him.

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Re: Olli Jokinen headed to NYR? (CONFIRMED)

Post by M_Christopher on Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:07 am

hemlock wrote:
M_Christopher wrote:
hemlock wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:Fan 960 Calgary and they said tomorrow they are expected to announce Kovalchuk for Kotalik, Boyd and 1st round pick (2011).

SD says:

Worst trade in history.


No kidding. The best piece of that package, the 1st, isn't that great either with 2011 looking to be a weak draft.

This is got to be the move that gets Waddell run out of town. I just can't believe there is any truth to this.


Wow, as bad as Eklund is....the Fan comes out and tops him




I guess the statute of limitation on talking Dung about Eklund has run out already?


Haha, just a playful shot.

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Re: Olli Jokinen headed to NYR? (CONFIRMED)

Post by marakh on Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:35 am

Calgary shouldn't trade away their 1st rounder year after year when their prospect pool is one of the worst in the league.

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Post by M_Christopher on Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:43 am

marakh wrote:Calgary shouldn't trade away their 1st rounder year after year when their prospect pool is one of the worst in the league.


Yeah it's shallow but I wouldn't say it's among the worse.

Nemisz, Erixon, Puustinen and Backlund are blue-chippers and those four along are better than most...but trading Aulie didn't help matters.

But I digress, your right they shouldn't keep trading away their firsts, no team should but you can always count on Burke

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Re: Olli Jokinen headed to NYR? (CONFIRMED)

Post by M_Christopher on Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:54 am

It's official now

Jokinen/Prust for Higgins/Kotalik

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=308648

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Re: Olli Jokinen headed to NYR? (CONFIRMED)

Post by cain69 on Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:00 am

How funny is that, earlyer tonight i traded away Kotalik to Ott in the sim while NYR traded him aswell on the same night to Calgary

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Re: Olli Jokinen headed to NYR? (CONFIRMED)

Post by Kovalfie on Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:36 am

M_Christopher wrote:It's official now

Jokinen/Prust for Higgins/Kotalik

[url=http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=308648
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=308648[/quote[/url]]

What do you think? Personally I think Calgary will win out on these deals. I realize the loss of Phaneuf and Aulie are pretty big, but gaining Hagman, Higgings, Kotlalik, and Stajan should solve their offensive woes.

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Re: Olli Jokinen headed to NYR? (CONFIRMED)

Post by hemlock on Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:47 am

What I really want to know is, how does Sather manage to rid himself of bad contracts like this??? First Gomez, and now Kotalik, who everyone KNEW he wanted to get rid of. He must have some serious dirt on Gainey and Sutter.

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Re: Olli Jokinen headed to NYR? (CONFIRMED)

Post by hemlock on Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:48 am

[quote="Kovalfie"]
M_Christopher wrote:It's official now

Jokinen/Prust for Higgins/Kotalik

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=308648[/quote]

What do you think? Personally I think Calgary will win out on these deals. I realize the loss of Phaneuf and Aulie are pretty big, but gaining Hagman, Higgings, Kotlalik, and Stajan should solve their offensive woes.


Not last night it didn't.

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Re: Olli Jokinen headed to NYR? (CONFIRMED)

Post by PKC on Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:06 am

Does anyone understand this trade at all from either standpoint?

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Post by SeawaySensFan on Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:41 am

PKC wrote:Does anyone understand this trade at all from either standpoint?


Two teams trying to cover up recent mistakes.

I still think Jokinen will pay off for the Rangers. They shouldn't make the mistake of resigning him, though.

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Re: Olli Jokinen headed to NYR? (CONFIRMED)

Post by SpezDispenser on Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:24 am

PKC wrote:Does anyone understand this trade at all from either standpoint?


Not from a Calgary POV I sure don't, unless Kotalik is heading to Russia this summer and leaving his contract here, this is a bad move.

Jokinen is a plague, but only if you let him stay around long enough - and his Finnish arse will be out the door in the summer, clearing up more room for the Rangers to go after Kovalchuk (because you know they'll try).

I like this for the Rangers even though I loathe Jokinen. Hate it for the Flames unless it's addition by subtraction (which I FIRMLY believe it is).

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Re: Olli Jokinen headed to NYR? (CONFIRMED)

Post by Dash on Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:43 am

Maybe when the Rangers rid themselves of two awful deals - Redden and Drury, and even Roszisval - then they could look at Kovalchuk.

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Re: Olli Jokinen headed to NYR? (CONFIRMED)

Post by Hoags on Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:46 am

Bizarre trade, Jokinen must be terrible.

I think Sutter is really hitting that big red panic button.

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Post by SeawaySensFan on Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:51 am

Hoags wrote:Bizarre trade, Jokinen must be terrible.

I think Sutter is really hitting that big red panic button.


Not any terribler than Drury.

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Post by SpezDispenser on Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:57 am

Hoags wrote:Bizarre trade, Jokinen must be terrible.

I think Sutter is really hitting that big red panic button.


I'll keep saying this over and over again: he was the black plague in the Flames dressing room. Everyone hated his guys. (and Neon Dion's as well). This is addition by subtraction.

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Post by Dash on Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:57 am

Seriously though, if the Rangers could bury or rid themselves of those 3 contracts, they could be back int a position to do it all over again with other players like Vinny and Ilya.

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Post by SpezDispenser on Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:58 am

SeawaySensFan wrote:
Hoags wrote:Bizarre trade, Jokinen must be terrible.

I think Sutter is really hitting that big red panic button.


Not any terribler than Drury.


See, I would take Drury if I was the Flames. He's a HELL of a lot better than Kotalik and at least I could pair him with Iginla and get some awesome 2-way play to go with what I think would be a resurgence in Drury's career.

I would have done that personally. Kotalik be damned, Higgins be damned. And I would have taken a 2nd rounder for my troubles as well.

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Post by Hoags on Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:04 pm

Redden will be an anchor for the Rangers for years to come, I can't imagine any GM in the league being stupid enough to acquire him.

Even Milbury would walk away Laugh1

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Post by Dash on Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:05 pm

They might have to bury him in the minors, try the re-entry method, or buy him out. But they would have to fire Sather so it doesn't happen again.

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Post by marakh on Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:58 pm

CGY has too many forwards now, I think it's just a matter of time before we see another trade.

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Post by SpezDispenser on Tue Feb 02, 2010 4:42 pm

http://twitter.com/boomer960

Kotalik's flight was canceled at the last second. Sutter was probably drunk last night and just realized what he did.

Dominoes????W??W??#?

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Post by Hoags on Tue Feb 02, 2010 4:48 pm

http://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie

Kotalik is trying to get to Calgary but can't connect through another Canadian city because of immigration paperwork awaiting him in Cgy.


For conspiracy theorists who believe Kotalik's delayed flight is part of grand scheme to flip, relax. He's actually having flight issues.


Smile

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Post by SeawaySensFan on Tue Feb 02, 2010 4:49 pm

SpezDispenser wrote:http://twitter.com/boomer960

Kotalik's flight was canceled at the last second. Sutter was probably drunk last night and just realized what he did.

Dominoes????W??W??#?


Holy Diddle what an ordeal this CGY panic attack has become.

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Post by SensGirl11 on Tue Feb 02, 2010 4:57 pm

I still can't believe they got shutout yesterday. How very sad for them. And, he's still trading people away.

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Post by SensGirl11 on Tue Feb 02, 2010 4:58 pm

SeawaySensFan wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:http://twitter.com/boomer960

Kotalik's flight was canceled at the last second. Sutter was probably drunk last night and just realized what he did.

Dominoes????W??W??#?


Holy Diddle what an ordeal this CGY panic attack has become.



Laughing3 So very true. What has happened? Talk about itchy trigger finger.

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Post by SeawaySensFan on Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:03 pm

Kotalik is trying to get to Calgary but can't connect through another Canadian city because of immigration paperwork awaiting him in Cgy.

Says Bob McKenzie.

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Post by SpezDispenser on Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:24 pm

Oh...well nvrmd then. Lalalala

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