Olli Jokinen headed to NYR? (CONFIRMED)

What the heck? That's a nice deal for the Rangers to be honest.

PS That should answer some more questions about Olli Jokinen and his character.

What I don't understand is why the Flames would want Kotalik and his salary going forward when Jokinen's salary would be coming off the books. If he's that much of a disruption, put him on waivers and get rid of him, but to take on Kotalik's salary is a head scratcher. Also, Higgins has been a horrendous bust for the Rangers, why would the Flames be any different?

Odd, odd day for Sutter. He may have set himself up to be fired soon.

SDH89 wrote:To me it looks like Calgary is blaming their recent skid on the dirty laundry in the room. Well today they cleaned that laundry and got a bunch of mediocre players in return.

Let's see if this "team concept" will work. Personally, Calgary gave up a lot of talent and didn't get an abundance of it back.

That's an interesting theory to be honest. Jokinen is the black plague and Phaneuf was apparently they devil, so let's see what happens now. Everyone should remember this isn't knee-jerk, Sutter said he'd been working on the Phaneuf deal for 7-10 days, so Iginla knew all about it - and obviously gave it the thumbs up.

asq2 wrote:Hold the phone, folks...rumour has it Kotalik won't waive his NTC.

OMG, that would be hilarious.

Jokinen seems to step it up every time he's dealt for some reason. He's an ideal rental, IMO.

McGrattan?

Nah, he's cleaned it up, very respectable.

The Rangers need to somehow move Drury and Redden and they would be in very good shape.

PKC wrote:From DarrenDreger via Twitter:

no one seems to know why Calgary is stalling on the Jokinen trade. has a 3rd team surfaced?

Seems awfully swirly to me.

Bass Destruction wrote:Looks like Calgary has decided to emulate the Ottawa style ( ) of the mini rebuild by casting out the distractions and taking in an offence balanced across their lines.

QFT.

PKC wrote:I think it's a lateral trade at best. Kotalik gives them a PP specialist and Higgins has been good before but is playing in that mess in NY.

The Rangers pick up a center for Gaborik, although not much of one anymore judging his recent play. And Prust seems to be a throw in.

Weird Dung...

Jokinen can't be a center for Gaborik though, he shoots all the time, never passes. At least that's the word from Calgary fans and the Phoenix fan. We'll see though, very, very weird Dung.

If Kotalik blocked this trade...

With no word of a lie, he's Hartford's property.

The deal is off for now. Jokinen will play tonight vs. Philly, possibly Prust as well, but it could be Grat's. Not sure if it is Calgary backing out, or Kotalik refusing to waive. Bob McK commented over on TSN via twitter.

Hoags wrote:Is Sutter making a run at Kovalchuk ?

Until this happened I think he was. Waddell apparently like Higgins as one of the pieces. Whatever, just replace Kotalik with someone else and waive Kotalik.

Dash wrote:The deal is off for now. Jokinen will play tonight vs. Philly, possibly Prust as well, but it could be Grat's. Not sure if it is Calgary backing out, or Kotalik refusing to waive. Bob McK commented over on TSN via twitter.

Unbelievable. Truly unreal, what happened there? The players were informed, everything looked like it was happening and they're playing tonight? Wow.

Does anyone think that because Kotalik was 'traded' (before it all went to Dung) - that there might actually be a market for Cheechoo?

SpezDispenser wrote:Does anyone think that because Kotalik was 'traded' (before it all went to Dung) - that there might actually be a market for Cheechoo?

I think there's a market for Cheechoo regardless.

SeawaySensFan wrote:
I think there's a market for Cheechoo regardless.

Then let's be fair. Cheechoo and Picard are probably gone. That's 4 million dollars, that's one fun pending-UFA winger. Not sure who, but let the speculation begin. As much as I Shannon, he'll be fine not cracking the top 6 again because we've acquired someone.

Hoags wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:
I think there's a market for Cheechoo regardless.

Perhaps in Europe ... where all washed NHLers go.

Either buying him out or getting rid of via re-entry waivers are the only 2 possibilities I see for us getting rid of him.

His effort and attitude aren't even in question ... he physically can't put up the numbers so there's no hope for a fresh start on another team. He is what he is now.

A playoff team that's looking for an extra physical presence and character would be foolish not to consider acquiring Cheechoo.

Word is Calgary is holding off on trade as long as Rangers are offering Gillroy. Calgary wants Hggins along w/ Kotalik for Jokinen/Prust
Strickland 1 minute ago from web

Gilroy over Higgins? Okay, that's great. Diddle man, Higgins is being flipped (with a ton of other things) for Kovalchuk for sure.

It's the following year after that has people not interested in him.

Rentals are normally pending free agents, because the team has no obligation to them after the season.

Cheechoo was a salary dump by SJ and is now Ottawa's problem.

SpezDispenser wrote:Word is Calgary is holding off on trade as long as Rangers are offering Gillroy. Calgary wants Hggins along w/ Kotalik for Jokinen/Prust
Strickland 1 minute ago from web

Gilroy over Higgins? Okay, that's great. Diddle man, Higgins is being flipped (with a ton of other things) for Kovalchuk for sure.

I'd make one of those "other things" Iggy, at this point. But I guess he has a no-move?

SpezDispenser wrote:Word is Calgary is holding off on trade as long as Rangers are offering Gillroy. Calgary wants Hggins along w/ Kotalik for Jokinen/Prust
Strickland 1 minute ago from web

Gilroy over Higgins? Okay, that's great. Diddle man, Higgins is being flipped (with a ton of other things) for Kovalchuk for sure.

What the hell is wrong with NY trying to trade a guy they just signed out of college? They just signed him April 17, not even a year ago.

Dash wrote:It's the following year after that has people not interested in him.

Rentals are normally pending free agents, because the team has no obligation to them after the season.

Cheechoo was a salary dump by SJ and is now Ottawa's problem.

However...Kotalik was part of a trade to Calgary and he has TWO more years at 3 million and is every bit the bust that Cheechoo is (more actually IMO). That changed the landscape a lot IMO.

I would never trade Iginla. Would Ottawa trade Alfredsson?

Maybe the guy that Calgary goes after is Vinny? Remember Higgins was a part of that trade, wasn't he?