What's next for the Chicago Blackhawks?

DTR,

Congratulations on a great day. Tallon is taking a shot, you gotta like it. Having said that I respectfully request that you hold off on the Hossa avatar for a couple of weeks. I think alot of us find it quite painful. :**:

If ever there was a team built for the here and now, it's next season's Chicago Blackhawks.

This team is built like a brick Dung. They are going to pound a lot of teams next season and likely advance quite far in the post season.

Madden and Hossa just complement an already pretty powerful team.

THe only reason I hesitate to call them Stanley Cup favourites is the fact that ol' Cristobal is the man between the pipes. He doesn't have Khabibulin pushing him anymore. I will be curious to see how he handles the spotlight.

But seriously, offensively, they will embarass a lot of teams

Sp00nz wrote:

PKC wrote:I might become a Blackhawks fan if the Sens don't do something worth while.

Thats exactly the kind of attitude that many other fanbases knock Sens fans for.

:gg:

I'd never leave the Sens as a fan...but you have to admit that the Hawks are going to be exciting to watch next season.

Hawks and Flyers are easiyl the best teams prepared for next year. Yet, they have the exact same quesiton mark...

marakh wrote:Hawks and Flyers are easiyl the best teams prepared for next year. Yet, they have the exact same quesiton mark...

between the pipes right? Hawks would have solidified themselves if they could have signed Bulin and traded the bum Huet.

SensFan71 wrote:

marakh wrote:Hawks and Flyers are easiyl the best teams prepared for next year. Yet, they have the exact same quesiton mark...

between the pipes right? Hawks would have solidified themselves if they could have signed Bulin and traded the bum Huet.

Why so nasty towards Cristo?

And your choice of language...how un-elegant. King Leonidas would NOT approve.

May I remind you Mr Huet was half of the third best goaltending pair in the West last year...The Hawks were 5th in the league overall on team defense. With Hossa, Kopecky and Madden, that may get even better.

davetherave wrote:

SensFan71 wrote:

marakh wrote:Hawks and Flyers are easiyl the best teams prepared for next year. Yet, they have the exact same quesiton mark...

between the pipes right? Hawks would have solidified themselves if they could have signed Bulin and traded the bum Huet.

Why so nasty towards Cristo?

And your choice of language...how un-elegant. King Leonidas would NOT approve.

May I remind you Mr Huet was half of the third best goaltending pair in the West last year...The Hawks were 5th in the league overall on team defense. With Hossa, Kopecky and Madden, that may get even better.

I guess bum was a little strong, my apologies to the spartans lol, my point more was that Bulin lead them through most of their playoff run and think he is the goalie to lead them to the holy grail, not Huet. now Bulin will be freezing his nene's off in Edmonton leading them I am certain to the playoffs.

Bulin is Russian, I'm pretty sure the cold in Edmonton won't bother him.

Big T wrote:Bulin is Russian, I'm pretty sure the cold in Edmonton won't bother him.

true enough, best goalie they have had in years regardless, expect the oilers to be in the playoffs this year.

SensFan71 wrote:

davetherave wrote:

SensFan71 wrote:

marakh wrote:Hawks and Flyers are easiyl the best teams prepared for next year. Yet, they have the exact same quesiton mark...

between the pipes right? Hawks would have solidified themselves if they could have signed Bulin and traded the bum Huet.

Why so nasty towards Cristo?

And your choice of language...how un-elegant. King Leonidas would NOT approve.

May I remind you Mr Huet was half of the third best goaltending pair in the West last year...The Hawks were 5th in the league overall on team defense. With Hossa, Kopecky and Madden, that may get even better.

I guess bum was a little strong, my apologies to the spartans lol, my point more was that Bulin lead them through most of their playoff run and think he is the goalie to lead them to the holy grail, not Huet. now Bulin will be freezing his nene's off in Edmonton leading them I am certain to the playoffs.

Mr SF, Dale Tallon has been asked the same questions about Monsieur Huet, and rightly so. His reply was that Cristo will be expected to play next season as he did in the final game of the playoffs; hopefully, ably seconded by Mr Antti Niemi from Finland.

The Count of Monte Cristobal did, after all, have a MUCH better average than 'The Wizard' Chris Osgood last year :-)

BTW Huet was in goal last season for the Hawks' franchise record-setting nine game win streak.

And how can you feel bad about a goalie who is very humble, admits when he has a bad game, makes some truly acrobatic stops and wears those stylish red pads?

Comrade Khabby was the man, no question, for the stretch and the playoffs...but time to move on...'Bulin deserved a new deal and a new challenge...Da svidanya Nikolai! Vsyo kharasho!

It's a team game, and the team will have to pull together in front of their gardien de but...c'est tout.

davetherave wrote:

SensFan71 wrote:

davetherave wrote:

SensFan71 wrote:

marakh wrote:Hawks and Flyers are easiyl the best teams prepared for next year. Yet, they have the exact same quesiton mark...

between the pipes right? Hawks would have solidified themselves if they could have signed Bulin and traded the bum Huet.

Why so nasty towards Cristo?

And your choice of language...how un-elegant. King Leonidas would NOT approve.

May I remind you Mr Huet was half of the third best goaltending pair in the West last year...The Hawks were 5th in the league overall on team defense. With Hossa, Kopecky and Madden, that may get even better.

I guess bum was a little strong, my apologies to the spartans lol, my point more was that Bulin lead them through most of their playoff run and think he is the goalie to lead them to the holy grail, not Huet. now Bulin will be freezing his nene's off in Edmonton leading them I am certain to the playoffs.

Mr SF, Dale Tallon has been asked the same questions about Monsieur Huet, and rightly so. His reply was that Cristo will be expected to play next season as he did in the final game of the playoffs; hopefully, ably seconded by Mr Antti Niemi from Finland.

The Count of Monte Cristobal did, after all, have a MUCH better average than 'The Wizard' Chris Osgood last year :-)

BTW Huet was in goal last season for the Hawks' franchise record-setting nine game win streak.

And how can you feel bad about a goalie who is very humble, admits when he has a bad game, makes some truly acrobatic stops and wears those stylish red pads?

Comrade Khabby was the man, no question, for the stretch and the playoffs...but time to move on...'Bulin deserved a new deal and a new challenge...Da svidanya Nikolai! Vsyo kharasho!

It's a team game, and the team will have to pull together in front of their gardien de but...c'est tout.

don't mind me, I am just crying sour apples because Murray couldn't do anything yesterday or today because of the selfish # 15, who had the nerve to veto a trade after publicly demanding one. I guess Dany, you should have said, I want to be traded, but not to Edmonton, what a rat bastard he is. :gg:

SF71...believe me, I empathize.

The Blackhawks went through years and years of ups and downs...seen 'em all.

The frustration you and Sens fans have is beyond description, and understandably so...but I have a sense The Senators will be a better team because they will find a way to pull together.

Hang in there. :___:

Not this year Dave, not this year.

Neely4Life wrote:Not this year Dave, not this year.

Neely>as you know, none of these things happens overnight...

Patience is IMHO essential when you follow a team over the years. I can't think of one NHL team that hasn't gone through tough seasons...but I'm dating myself here, heh, heh.

The Blackhawks are on the rise now...but not so long ago they weren't even in the postseason.

So you enjoy the success while you can, because you don't know how long it will last...

When I was a kid, the Montreal Canadiens were the 'juggernaut'...I remember them winning five Stanley Cups in a row.

It was almost automatic that I would not choose them as my favourites...for precisely that reason. I didn't want to follow the crowd.

With change being the norm in today's NHL, the idea of a 'dynasty' is dead. I happen to think that's a good thing...because it makes hockey more unpredictable and more interesting.

I don't think that having Hossa, Kopecky and Madden makes the Blackhawks a lock to be 'the team to beat'...there are too many variables to consider. But it does make them a more exciting, and skilled team for sure.

And I have always been a fan of Marian Hossa, whether he was a Sen, a Thrasher, a Penguin, or a Red Wing. Let's face it, players change teams now for a lot of reasons...they rarely play for the same club their whole careers.

I remember also when I was a kid and my favourite player was Frank Mahovlich. 'The Big M' played for the Leafs, and I wasn't a Leaf fan of course, but a Hawks fan...

...when he was almost traded to Chicago in 1962 (when Black Hawks owner Jimmy Norris offered a million dollars for him), I was disappointed the deal didn't happen...but I continued to enjoy watching him play as a Leaf, a Red Wing and even a Canadien.

A great player is a great player.

So...Hossa as a Hawk? I'm thrilled.

From Hawks columnist (and THN's Chicago correspondent) Tim Sassone today:

SURE SOUNDS LIKE A TRADE
Tim Sassone, Between The Circles/Chicago Daily Herald, July 3, 2009

This is Hawks GM Dale Tallon talking Thursday afternoon: “We’re looking for the right guy, maybe on the back end. We have a lot of assets we can trade.”

This is how I believe the Hawks are going to find that big, physical defenseman they are lacking, via a trade, and Tallon came about as close as he could to confirming it.

The Hawks have a lot of forwards to offer around the league. I wouldn’t be shocked if it was a scorer such as Patrick Sharp or Kris Versteeg that the Hawks at least explore dealing for that “right guy.”

With a serious salary cap issue to deal with after next season, the Hawks can’t keep everyone. Maybe it’s Troy Brouwer they try to move. Dustin Byfuglien might have been a trade candidate before the playoffs, but you need that big body, and if he performs like he did in the postseason, then he is worth his $3 million salary.

Moving a high-priced forward would allow the Hawks to slip either Jack Skille or Kyle Beach into the lineup at lower salary cap hit.

Here’s how the Hawks stack up at forward today and how lines might look:
Byfuglien-Toews-Kane
Sharp-Bolland-Hossa
Ladd-Madden-Versteeg
Eager-Burish-Kopecky-Brouwer

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There are a number of d-men of interest...the Hawks are apparently looking for an experienced, crease-clearing, shot-blocking type...

Stay tuned...

Probably just a slow news day. I seriously doubt either the league or the NHLPA has an interest i turning these guys loose. Unless his holiness Brian Burke wants one of those guys, in which case he'll be on TSN in 5, 4, 3, ...

SpezDispenser wrote:Hmmmm, where'd I put that paperwork?...

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=283634

Possible huge clerical error for the Hawks.

Or not.

The expectations have been raised for next season...so what's happening in Hawkey Town?



ESPN's Chicago correspondent Al Cimaglia provides a snapshot from prospect camp...and a tribute to a Black Hawk legend.

LOGJAM AT FORWARD
Hawks' Top Prospects Are All Forwards
Al Cimaglia, ESPN, July 12, 2009

Last Wednesday, I attended Blackhawks prospect camp. For a number of reasons prospect camp is not as important to me as to some. Watching young players perform against varied competition for a few hours is not the way for me to draw solid conclusions. The ages of prospects spanned from 17 to 25 years old.

That said, many years of high draft selections have translated into much better prospects. As a group, their speed of play and skill level is well beyond those of only a few years ago. In the future some will make it to the NHL, and others may be able to play overseas. For the upcoming campaign, only two players from prospect camp appear to have a shot at the NHL come October.

Forwards Akim Aliu and Kyle Beach stood out on the ice, as they should. Both have the size and skill to play in the NHL, but it remains be seen when their time will come. One question is whether either has the NHL IQ to play effectively for the big club in the fall. That answer isn't apparent to me, and at this point management probably doesn't know either. They both may need more experience. Their hockey smarts may not be the only factor to hold back promotions to the NHL for Aliu and or Beach.

Currently, Chicago has 14 NHL-quality forwards signed for next year. That total does not include Aliu, Beach or Jack Skille. Most likely the Hawks will break training camp with 13 forwards, seven defensemen and two goaltenders. Their roster could include only 21 players, but most likely will be 22. As it stands, a 23-man roster is unlikely because of salary cap constraints.

Decisions for Hawks management get more complicated because Beach will not be old enough to play in the AHL next year. A season in the AHL could have helped Beach's development a great deal. Junior hockey has to be getting old for Kyle.

Boredom can often lead to a lack of development or discipline issues. Neither would be good for Beach.

Aliu can play in Rockford for the upcoming campaign, and Skille played there last season. Beach can only see time in Rockford when his junior season ends, as was the case for a short time last year.

So it's not hard to see a logjam at the forward position. Trades appear the only way to clear roster spots if the intent is to get Aliu, Beach or Skille to Chicago in October.

Death in the family

On a sad note, former Blackhawk Reggie Fleming passed away at age 73. He spent four seasons with Chicago and was part of the 1961 Stanley Cup champion team.

He was as tough as they come and was always ready to defend teammates. Fleming also spent time with the Bruins, Rangers, Flyers and Sabres. His NHL career ended in 1971 and he bounced around the minors until 1977.

When hearing of players signing mega, multi-year contracts, my thoughts often turn to Reggie and those of that era. I don't remember very much of his playing career, but I would often see Fleming attending Hawks games after his retirement. He always had time to spend with fans, and would be willing to talk to everyone in his high pitched, raspy voice.

Back in Fleming's NHL days, players weren't well paid. It took the greatest left wing of all-time, Bobby Hull, many years to be able to earn over $20,000 playing hockey. Fleming, like other NHL players from the 60s, had to work in the summers and after retirement. I can recall a few times when I saw him jumping off the back of a beer truck to haul cases into a bar. Many who played back then couldn't rely on an NHL pension to support their families.

Although Fleming would be considered more of a role player, he still played many years in the league when it was a very elite club. To be considered an NHL player before expansion is an accomplishment which can't be taken from him.

Fleming and others from his era paved the road for those in the NHL today.

Unfortunately, he had been in failing health for years. My condolences go out to the Fleming family and friends.

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As a footnote to all the noise surrounding the Hawks' recent RFA signings, ESPN Insider offers this tidbit:

The Blackhawks may make several moves in the coming months to free up cap room -- for next offseason.

That's when Duncan Keith, Jonathan Toews and Patrick Kane become free agents. The Hawks will have about $13 to $14 million in expiring contracts, but may need more to sign their core of stars.

"We have everything in place," Tallon told the (Chicago) Daily Herald. "We're not in this short term, it's all big picture. We know what we have to do. We have a plan in place and we're going to continue to keep the core together."

With the recent controversy around the Blackhawks, it's easy to forget the team is approaching the 2009-10 season with a completely different set of expectations from just one year ago...not to mention a different coach (Savard to Quenneville), and now a different GM (Tallon to Bowman).

Dale Tallon's own view of his situation was explored by ESPN today:

DALE TALLON SAYS HE'S 'COMFORTABLE' WITH NEW ROLE
Roman Modrowski, ESPNChicago.com, July 15, 2009

Former Chicago Blackhawks general manager Dale Tallon said he's comfortable with his new position as the team's senior adviser of hockey operations, and he said he wasn't offended by Rocky Wirtz's suggestion that he was too old to be the GM.

"I'm very fortunate to be with the Blackhawks," Tallon said during a teleconference Wednesday, which marked his first public statements after being replaced by Stan Bowman on Tuesday. "I'm comfortable with the position I'm in now. I'm in a good place.

"I'm still working for the Chicago Blackhawks, which is a franchise that's deep in my blood. I'm passionate about the Blackhawks, and about helping this team win a Stanley Cup."

There has been speculation that the move was triggered by a rift between Tallon and Hawks president John McDonough, but Tallon said while the two have different styles, the relationship is strong.

"It's a very good relationship," he said. 'It's open and honest.

"We're both different, but the whole organization has different styles. We're both open and honest with opinions. Our goals are the same. Winning the Stanley Cup, that's our goal."

McDonough implied on Tuesday that the communication between he and Tallon could have been better, and Tallon didn't disagree.

"Obviously, there were [communication issues]," Tallon said, "but there was no intent. Sometimes that has happened."

"I think it was a situation where we both agreed this was best for the franchise," Tallon continued. "We had a cordial discussion, John and I. He wanted to take the team in a different direction, and I was fine with it. Although my position has changed, my goal has not."

Tallon, who is very close to the Wirtz family, did not take offense to Rocky Wirtz saying the 58-year-old Tallon is at the tail end of his business career. Bowman is 36.

"[I was] never offended," Tallon said. "I am 58, but I have a very young mind. I'm very agile and very fit.

"I love the Wirtz family. They've been great to me. I still have some fight in me."

Tallon was asked about comments Martin Havlat was quoted saying in an article on TSN.ca on Wednesday, alleging that negotiations to re-sign Havlat were conducted between Tallon and McDonough, rather than Tallon and the player's agent.

"The contract negotiations went on as they do with every player, between the agent and myself," said Tallon, who said he didn't know where Havlat would get such an idea. "No one else."

Tallon continued to state that the recent paperwork fiasco with restricted free agents was under his watch, and he took full responsibility. McDonough said Tuesday if that problem hadn't arisen, he probably would not have reassigned Tallon.

As far as possibly taking another GM job down the road, Tallon chuckled for a second and then said: "Right now, I'm focusing on winning the Cup with the Blackhawks. If we have success, who knows what will happen."

Tallon gave a ringing endorsement to Bowman, who was the assistant general manager for the last two seasons and takes over a young team that advanced to the Western Conference finals.

"I've been with Stan for a long time, and he's more than qualified," Tallon said. "He's a good scout, a good judge of talent."

Tallon said he didn't think the move was generated by McDonough, who came to the Hawks in 2007, simply wanting to bring in his own GM.

"I think every person who takes over has a different philosophy," Tallon said.

"People need to do what they think is best for their franchise, and that's simply the case of what happened here."

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Far from being complacent about the progress made last year, the prevailing attitude from the Blackhawks organization is that nothing has been won yet.

The message has been repeated loud and clear: the organization is prepared to do what it takes to get the Hawks back to the Final Four, and into the Stanley Cup Finals.

If John McDonough's unforgiving, calculating, even ruthless style is an indicator, an unforgiving, calculating, ruthless--and already exciting--Blackhawks team will take to the ice.

There ARE questions. And EVERYONE will have to be better.

Detroit remains the benchmark. Other teams in the Central Division have improved.

The Western Conference, highly competitive already, will probably be more so.

Whereas the Blackhawks were the 'surprise team' last year, everyone is ready and waiting for them.

And that...is a very good thing.
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davetherave wrote:"I've been with Stan for a long time, and he's more than qualified," Tallon said. "He's a good scout, a good judge of talent."

When I read this, I had a quick vision of JFJ and the Leafs. JFJ was that as well - a good scout and judge of talent, just not a good GM. I hope for the Hawks' sake Stan isn't a JFJ.

shabbs wrote:

davetherave wrote:"I've been with Stan for a long time, and he's more than qualified," Tallon said. "He's a good scout, a good judge of talent."

When I read this, I had a quick vision of JFJ and the Leafs. JFJ was that as well - a good scout and judge of talent, just not a good GM. I hope for the Hawks' sake Stan isn't a JFJ.

Well Scotty Bowman's tenure as GM in Buffalo wasn't overflowing with success.

Zoolander wrote:

shabbs wrote:

davetherave wrote:"I've been with Stan for a long time, and he's more than qualified," Tallon said. "He's a good scout, a good judge of talent."

When I read this, I had a quick vision of JFJ and the Leafs. JFJ was that as well - a good scout and judge of talent, just not a good GM. I hope for the Hawks' sake Stan isn't a JFJ.

Well Scotty Bowman's tenure as GM in Buffalo wasn't overflowing with success.

True... true...

Stan's only 36... is he the youngest GM in the NHL?

If not... who is?

shabbs wrote:

Zoolander wrote:

shabbs wrote:

davetherave wrote:"I've been with Stan for a long time, and he's more than qualified," Tallon said. "He's a good scout, a good judge of talent."

When I read this, I had a quick vision of JFJ and the Leafs. JFJ was that as well - a good scout and judge of talent, just not a good GM. I hope for the Hawks' sake Stan isn't a JFJ.

Well Scotty Bowman's tenure as GM in Buffalo wasn't overflowing with success.

True... true...

Stan's only 36... is he the youngest GM in the NHL?

If not... who is?

I thought maybe Fletcher in Minny but he's 41.

shabbs wrote:

davetherave wrote:"I've been with Stan for a long time, and he's more than qualified," Tallon said. "He's a good scout, a good judge of talent."

When I read this, I had a quick vision of JFJ and the Leafs. JFJ was that as well - a good scout and judge of talent, just not a good GM. I hope for the Hawks' sake Stan isn't a JFJ.

No comparison.

JFJ reported to the gray matter at Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment.

Stan Bowman has been with the Hawks organization for eight years.

His father, one of the most successful executives in NHL history, reports directly to John McDonough and Rocky Wirtz.

JFJ didn't have that support at MLSE.

From the Chicago Sun Times today:

STAN BOWMAN EARNED BIG BREAK WITH BLACKHAWKS
Len Ziehm, SunTimes.com, July 15, 2009

Stan Bowman's ascension to general manager of the Blackhawks was in the works for some time before it became a reality Tuesday.

''This is a natural progression for me. I've been preparing for this day for a long time,'' Bowman said at the United Center news conference where he was named the ninth GM in franchise history.

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Stan Bowman profile

Bowman becomes the Blackhawks' ninth GM.

Age: 36. Birthplace: Montreal.

Pedigree: Father is NHL legend Scotty Bowman, a senior advisor with the Hawks.

Named after: No, not Stan Mikita. Scotty had loftier goals when he named his son after the NHL's top prize, Lord Stanley's Cup.

Resume: Served eight years with the Hawks, most recently as assistant GM of hockey operations. Instrumental in the free-agent signings of Marian Hossa, Tomas Kopecky and John Madden in 2009 and Brian Campbell and Cristobal Huet in 2008. Had a hand in acquiring Patrick Sharp, Kris Versteeg and Andrew Ladd.

Education: Graduated from Notre Dame in 1995 with degrees in finance and computer applications.

Health: Diagnosed with Hodgkin's lymphoma in 2007; currently in remission.

Family: Wife Suzanne, along with two sons, Will and Camden.

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Bowman, the son of legendary Hall of Fame coach Scotty Bowman, has paid his dues in eight seasons with the Hawks. He will have a different management style than predecessor Dale Tallon in that he's more analytical and numbers-minded. He specialized in contract negotiations, free agency, salary arbitration, player movement and player assignment while working under Tallon.

President John McDonough said Bowman's promotion had nothing to do with his father's presence as a senior consultant.

''Scotty is the greatest mind in the history of the game,'' McDonough said.

''Although we consult with him, we've never had a conversation about his son becoming general manager of the Chicago Blackhawks.''

Stan Bowman is a 1995 Notre Dame graduate with degrees in finance and computer applications. During his tenure with the Hawks, he has battled Hodgkin's lymphoma, beating the disease twice. He was diagnosed in February, 2007, and it went into remission. Ten months later, the disease surfaced again and Bowman -- with the help of family friend and hockey legend Wayne Gretzky -- underwent a painful stem-cell transplant. It was successful, and the disease is in remission again.

Throughout his health problems, Bowman kept working, a trait he learned early in life watching his father on his way to coaching nine Stanley Cup winners. Stan, in fact, was named after hockey's prize trophy.

''I was probably exposed to hockey my whole life,'' he said in a recent NHL.com interview. ''I like to absorb things. I'd listen [to his father talk with other hockey leaders] on how to improve your team.''

But Stan wasn't a notable player and never wanted to be a coach like his father. He wanted to get in on the management side, and Scotty advised him to get started with a different team. Stan did that while Scotty was working as a consultant for the Detroit Red Wings.

''I knew right off that coaching wasn't my thing,'' Stan said. ''It probably hasn't hurt me to be Scotty Bowman's son, but if you don't show your own capabilities, you'll never be able to go beyond that.''

Not only did Bowman, married and the father of two young sons, learn hockey's operational side, he also took the job home with him in the form of Patrick Kane. Kane lived in Bowman's basement during his rookie season with the Hawks and went on to win the Calder Trophy.

''We're proud to promote Stan to his new position,'' McDonough said. ''He brings a comprehensive knowledge of hockey, along with a tremendous intellect and methodical approach to building a success team. This is a very natural, and strong, transition.''

While this year's team is pretty much in place, Bowman will face a major task next season when the contracts of Kane, Jonathan Toews and Duncan Keith all expire. The Hawks are at the salary-cap limit for this season, and signing those key players won't be easy.

''A lot is going to happen between now and then,'' Bowman said. ''We don't know what the salary cap will be, and what our team makeup will be. There are a number of variables, so it's hard to speculate."

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The guy beat cancer. From what I have seen so far, he is gutsy, humble, and down to earth.

We'll see how he does.

From yesterday's Chicago Tribune:

Chicago Blackhawks expect Marian Hossa to be out 4 months

New winger had shoulder surgery Friday
By Chris Kuc, Tribune reporter,July 25, 2009

The Marian Hossa waiting game is now officially under way.

The newly signed Blackhawks winger had surgery on his right rotator cuff Friday and if everything goes according to plan with his rehabilitation, Hossa will make his debut with his new team in four months -- two months into the season.

Hossa, who signed a 12-year, $62.8 million free agent contract July 1, played with the injury last season as a member of the Detroit Red Wings and the Hawks knew about the injury when they signed the five-time All-Star to the richest contract in team history. General Manager Stan Bowman said Wednesday the team had hoped non-operative rehab would fix the problem, but instead Hossa had surgery Friday morning.

"Marian's surgery [Friday] went as well as we had hoped and he is right on track for the anticipated recovery we had planned on, which is approximately four months," said Michael Terry, the Hawks' team physician who performed the surgery.

Terry said Thursday the injury was a "small right rotator cuff tear" and that the anticipated post-operative recovery period is four months. Sources have said it typically takes four to six months for this type of injury to be completely healed. Boston's Phil Kessel underwent surgery to repair a torn rotator cuff and labrum May 21 and is expected to be sidelined six months.

If Hossa returns on Terry's schedule, he would miss the Hawks' first 22 regular season games and could make his debut Nov. 25 against the San Jose Sharks. That game is in the middle of the Hawks' annual circus trip. The first chance for Hawks fans to get a first-hand look at the player who led the Wings with 40 goals last season would be Dec. 1 against the Columbus Blue Jackets at the United Center.

If the rehabilitation lingers for six months, Hossa wouldn't return until late January and would miss more than 50 of the Hawks' 82 regular season games.

Hawks Chairman Rocky Wirtz, who signed off on Hossa's deal, said Friday that the team did not give Hossa a physical at the time of the signing.

"Dr. Terry looked at the MRIs before we signed," Wirtz said. "There was still a chance he didn't need an operation. It's a small tear, we knew that. We thought it was 50-50 he could play with it. We knew exactly what it was. It wasn't where it was questionable or it would be severe. Dr. Terry, one of his specialties is shoulders, and he said he'll miss 19 to 20 games. It could be longer, of course. You have to depend on his advice. That's what he's telling us."

ckuc@tribune.com

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IMHO it is significant that Rocky Wirtz made the definitive statement on this issue.

After some public faux pas by Blackhawks President John McDonough in the wake of a succession of front office errors, Wirtz evidently decided the best course of action was to step out in front of the media himself.

As owner, Wirtz has final say, though he is generally self-effacing. But the series of situations fueled by a media feeding frenzy and fan discontent (a recent Tribune poll had a slim majority, but a majority nonetheless, of Hawks fans essentially wishing Hossa hadn't been signed), sent a signal Wirtz clearly recognized.

Like his father Arthur and his grandfather William W. before him, William Rockwell Wirtz no doubt understands that hockey is, above all, both blood sport and entertainment business.

The passion of the hockey fan is nothing if not irrational. Where ecstasy, loyalty, defeatism and denial go hand in glove--for the 'fan' is a fanatic if nothing else--the cheers turn to jeers in scant seconds.

Rocky Wirtz has heard them all. He once remarked laconically to John McDonough at a press conference, "Now you know what it's like to be a Wirtz in this town."

If one examines the progress the team has made under his stewardship, two things emerge.

One, Wirtz expects results.

Two, Wirtz is a realist.

An insider from the Hawks organization was quoted, "Rocky Wirtz believes in spending money to make money". Wirtz has given his executives the power to go out and buy the talent that has helped the Blackhawks rocket from the depths of the Western Conference to the Conference Finals, and 65 points to 104 points in just four years.

Leading business journals sing the praises of the Hawks' business model: no other pro sports franchise has demonstrated such a dramatic uptick in revenue over such a short period.

Of course, with success comes jealousy and resentment from the fickle media, not to mention the cackling of fans whose favourites are suddenly being beaten by a resurgent Blackhawks squad.

It was expected the cynics would howl about the so-called 'salary cap crisis' allegedly coming in June 2010. The mocking of the Campbell and Huet contracts has become a battle cry for the new anti-Hawk contingent, led, of course, by those who kiss the scarlet cloaks of the long time rivals from Detroit.

It was even more obvious that the megadeal for Marian Hossa--one of finest forwards in the game and one of the few players in the NHL to go to the Stanley Cup Finals two years in a row--would be met with derision, especially when Hossa's injury was revealed.

One supposes Wirtz knows taking the punches is part of show business.

So Rocky, like the fictional fighter of the movies, just keeps on slugging it out. It's also reasonable to believe he knows you don't win on style or points. It's last man standing.

He may be thinking about his grandfather's singular accomplishment, and his father's near misses. It is clear William Rockwell Wirtz has set himself the goal of bringing the Stanley Cup back to Chicago for the first time in almost half a century.

So from what we have seen, he does what he thinks he must do, whether it meets with the public and media's approval, or not.

As wealthy as the Wirtz family is, and as successful as the conglomerate of companies he controls, Rocky Wirtz can afford to do things his way.

This is a long term project. And the young Blackhawks are ahead of schedule.

As for me, I take things, as Marian Hossa said, "Step by step". I wish Hossa nothing but the best, having always admired his play, and his significant charity efforts to help underprivileged children. I respect his desire to dedicate himself to winning the Cup, for seeking out the team that he believes is the right one for him, and committing long term...even though he has been thoroughly chastised for it. I know first hand his country, his culture, and even the region where he was born...having spent some very happy years working in Slovakia.

Growing up a Hawks loyalist in Ottawa when most everyone else was a Leafs or Habs fanatic, I watched the Black Hawks win that Cup back in '61.

Seeing the teams come so tantalizingly close (with fourteen combined league, conference and division Championships, and five Stanley Cup Finals appearances); the stumbles of the previous decade; and the resurgence; over so many years...my own perspective is appropriately mitigated.

Progress is encouraging, but nothing has been won yet.

So what's next for the Chicago Blackhawks?

One word in Slovak--and one Slovaks are fond of--says it perfectly...Uvidíme.

'We shall see'.

Very similar to the Russian Uvidem.

It's interesting that the fan poll shows the picket buyers are not supporting the Hossa signing. Very telling. The boy named Marion has to prove himself all over again.

There's been a lot of love from some Sens fans for Patrick Sharp lately, particularly The Prince of Posters himself, SpezD...so here's a little something on Mister Sharp from one of Chicago's top 'city beat' writers.

SHARP START A SCORING MUST FOR BLACKHAWKS
Mike Kiley, Blackhawks Confidential/ChicagoNow, August 3, 2009

Sports is a funny, ever-changing business. Just weeks after being rumored to be eminently tradeworthy, Patrick Sharp has morphed seamlessly into one of the most important components early in the Blackhawks coming season.

Just like the stock market, Sharp found himself moved from a sell position into a buy almost overnight. Gotta have him.

While Marian Hossa heals from his shoulder surgery and puts undue stress on an offense that will miss the lightning strikes of Martin Havlat, Sharp's leadership role at the outset will be especially emphasized. From expendable to essential often proves to be a short trip in the uncertain world of pro athletes. That's why the best ones need a facile mind to survive being viewed one day as a marketable hero and the next as a saleable commodity. With some players, the vacillating opinions can tear them up and leave them a shadow of themselves, thinking the situation to death.

These are the mental midgets. Sharp appears to stand much taller and straighter, and not be one to dwell on the negatives.

The affable Sharp is certain to say all the right things come training camp, just as he did at the team convention, about never really believing in his heart that he was on his way out of Chicago. And the Hawks are likely to return the favor, no matter if the gossip was true or not.

The truth seldom gets in the way when cover stories are more convenient. Sharp has the kind of ready smile that can sweep all of the fuss away.

But with Havlat gone he will be in a more high-profile role than he had filled and he has to prove that he can handle the responsibilities that are attached to it.

Any doubts will be overcome just as long as the winger starts the 2009-10 campaign the way he did last season, with a furious offensive intensity his special trademark for a second straight year. Sharp will quickly move the focus to the offense needing his goal scoring capabilities in that case, especially until Hossa returns in late November or early December to share the burdens.

Sharp had points in 10 of the first 12 games last season, including 9 goals, and had logged 19 goals through December in a torrid start. Sharp looked as if he might make a run at his 62-point production in '07-'08, when he scored a career-best 36 goals.

Alas, a left-knee sprain and his personal vulnerability of being a streaky scorer combined to keep him from repeating those lofty numbers. In 61 games, Sharp finished with 26 goals and 18 assists for 44 points, a sharp dropoff from where he was beginning last January.

Sharp certainly helped his reputation for being a clutch scorer, however, and a guy that can rise to the big occasions when he scored 7 goals, 4 assists in 11 playoff games.

His game winner in Game 3 of the Western Conference finals at United Center marked the final gasp from excited Blackhawks fans, who still had an expectation then that miracles were possible and that they could overcome Detroit to reach the Stanley Cup finals.

How quickly those dreams collapsed.

Sharp, however, left us at the end of last season with a solid feeling for what he could do when push came to shove. And yet when we all tried to figure out how to clear salary cap space, Sharp's name suddenly came up as the guy that we could live without as long as he brought us a cheaper physical defenseman in trade.

Why would that be? How could we have been ready to part company so easily?
It's pretty simple to explain. Sharp's history is full of blank spaces. There's just not enough there to be definitive about what to expect. While he won't turn 28 until two days after Christmas, you can probably get an argument started on whether his best days are yet to come or already behind him.

The fantasy leagues will be all the over the map when it comes to Sharp.

The ceiling on his talents will be put to the test without Hossa, and if he succeeds, that should go a long way toward affirming his reputation as a surehanded scorer that the Hawks must retain for the near future--even with his $3.9 million annual cap hit.

Right wing Patrick Kane could be integral to deciding whether left wing Sharp thrives or struggles from the outset. Kane's maturing playmaking magic must be percolating in order for Sharp to finish off his shots for goals. They are both good skaters and have to be in tandem to be at their finest form.

Everyone expects that Kane, Sharp and center Jonathan Toews will be the premier line beginning the season, although coach Joel Quenneville has a way of scrambling any set lines into many permutations.

Without Hossa, Quenneville may decide he needs to mix-and-match more than ever. That also will be something to watch for early next season as the Hawks take shape all over again.

No matter what, Sharp will have to score prolifically to ease the pressure on an offense that might search to find itself in the opening weeks.

Any early-season injuries such as the leg problems that sidelined Sharp late last season could be a major setback to Hawks expectations in establishing themselves right away as a championship force. And as long as the season is, they will fare better if they can erase any mental doubts about their image.

As promising as the year seems from this distance, we are dealing with a fragile situation that could be a challenge at any point if Sharp disappears on the ice or into the training room.

But let's look at the bright side. Maybe 2009-10 is the season when Sharp transitions from someone who isn't automatically considered trade bait when you need to start bailing out of salary-cap pressures.

Just maybe Sharp is a guy we need on this team for years to come with his penchant for clutch goals. The ringing answer of affirmation has to come from him in the first two months of the year to set the championship tone.

The Detroit Free Press looks at the Hawks' chances this coming season:

BLACKHAWKS WILL POSE BIGGEST THREAT TO WINGS' DIVISION STRANGLEHOLD
George Sipple, FreeP.com/August 10, 2009

The Chicago Blackhawks have emerged as a big threat to the Red Wings' continued dominance of the NHL's Central Division. They appear to have gained the most of any other team in the division this off-season, partly at the Wings' expense.

The Blackhawks signed former Wings Marian Hossa (12 years, $62.8 million) and Tomas Kopecky (two years, $2.4 million) and off-set the loss of a defensive stalwart by signing John Madden (Michigan) to a one-year, $2.75-million contract.

Wings general manager Ken Holland has repeatedly said he expects the Central Division to be the best division in hockey next season, after four teams made the playoffs last season.

Hossa will be sidelined until December after having shoulder surgery, but the Blackhawks have plenty of other offensive weapons, led by Jonathan Toews (34 goals), Patrick Sharp (26), Patrick Kane (25), Kris Versteeg (22) and Dave Bolland (19). Kane has pleaded not guilty after being charged with attacking a cab driver in his hometown of Buffalo on Sunday.

Just as the Wings were the preseason favorite to win the Cup last year -- after winning it in 2008 and then adding Marian Hossa -- the Blackhawks will deal with heavy expectations this season.

If Chicago doesn't win the Cup next season, their two highest paid players, defenseman Brian Campbell and goaltender Cristobal Huet, might be to blame.

Campbell has seven years left on a deal that pays him more than $7.1 million per season. While he scored seven goals with 45 assists last season, he proved to be a defensive liability. In the five-game playoff series against the Wings, Campbell had no goals, one assist and a minus-5 rating.

The Blackhawks have turned over the starting goaltender job to Huet, who will make $5.625 million per season through 2011-12. He has never led a team past the first round of the playoffs.

Maybe I'm just being difficult, but I don't want to see any Hawks 'doing the bobblehead' this year.

I fully expect the youthful, physically capable Blackhawks to play smart smashmouth hockey. And I will be most annoyed if they don't.

If Huet plays like that any hope of Chicago winning the cup is absolutely pointless. He was awful.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

N4L wrote:If Huet plays like that any hope of Chicago winning the cup is absolutely pointless. He was awful.

He's an odd goalie. Very inconsistent. Plays a stinker, then a gem.

You two obviously watched a different game.


Huet was solid. Made terrific saves early and did what he had to do. Chicago still has some work to do on defense. Bad turnover by Seabrook leading to Booth's goal.

Hawks with 55 shots on Vokoun.

Got the first point, and that's what matters.

when was the last time Vokoun faced less then 40 shots? Seems like he does it nightly

davetherave wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

N4L wrote:If Huet plays like that any hope of Chicago winning the cup is absolutely pointless. He was awful.

He's an odd goalie. Very inconsistent. Plays a stinker, then a gem.

You two obviously watched a different game.


Huet was solid. Made terrific saves early and did what he had to do. Chicago still has some work to do on defense. Bad turnover by Seabrook leading to Booth's goal.

Hawks with 55 shots on Vokoun.

Got the first point, and that's what matters.

Dave, Huet played a good first, that's it. 3 periods in a hockey game. Huet needs to make a stop or two.

3 goals on 24 shots is not good, plus 1 for 3 on the shoot out for him. Was not good.

55 shots! Holy crap!

N4L wrote:

davetherave wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

N4L wrote:If Huet plays like that any hope of Chicago winning the cup is absolutely pointless. He was awful.

He's an odd goalie. Very inconsistent. Plays a stinker, then a gem.

You two obviously watched a different game.


Huet was solid. Made terrific saves early and did what he had to do. Chicago still has some work to do on defense. Bad turnover by Seabrook leading to Booth's goal.

Hawks with 55 shots on Vokoun.

Got the first point, and that's what matters.

Dave, Huet played a good first, that's it. 3 periods in a hockey game. Huet needs to make a stop or two.

3 goals on 24 shots is not good, plus 1 for 3 on the shoot out for him. Was not good.

My dear friend Neely, as you know I have enormous respect for your hockey knowledge, I will share some fascinating and illuminating information with you.

Cristobal Huet's winning percentage in shootouts is the same as that of Roberto Luongo, Marc Andre Fleury, Tomas Vokoun, Pascal Leclaire and Tim Thomas, and better than Chris Osgood or Nikolai Khabibulin.

For your further information:
http://www.nhlshootouts.com/CareerGoaliesMostWins.htm

As you very well know, being an astute observer of the game, the amount of shots is less relevant than the quality.

On each of the Panthers' regulation goals, the Blackhawks defense failed to prevent the shooter from getting an excellent shot.

Frolik's was simply a beautiful goal; Koistinen was able to send a cannon shot through a maze of players; and Seabrook handed the puck to Booth.

Every goalie has his weaknesses, and Cris Huet is no exception. It is what it is.

You don't need a Vezina winner to capture a Stanley Cup...but even talking about that is premature extrapolation.

My take on the Blackhawks is that October will be a very tough month for them, as they adjust to the absence of Hossa and the reconfiguration of their defense corps due to Walker's departure.

Nik Hjalmarsson and Brian Campbell were the best d-pair today for Chicago.

On the positive side, goals from Kane, Byfuglien and Sharp, and 55 shots on net, are very good signs.

John Madden was excellent, especially on faceoffs. Overall the Hawks were 60% at the dot, big improvement over last year already.

Hey, you win some, you lose some. If you get at least get a point, no worries.

By the way, I refuse to listen to any game where Pierre McGuire is a commentator.

I turned the sound down on TSN, and listened instead to Troy Murray, the former Hawks captain who gives a very balanced and critical view of the Hawks in his broadcast on WGN Radio.

Makes a BIG difference when you don't have to hear McGuire's whiny bull$hit.

Tomorrow's another day, and another game to played. Should be another good contest. The Panthers are looking like a playoff team.

Cheers.

Dave, Osgood doesnt cost the Wings games and has proven to be a money goaltender. To the best of my knowledge, Huet has done close to nothing and hasnt proven to be anything more then a backup for the most part.

I like The Hawks to go to the finals, but if Huet plays like that then it's going to be iffy at best come playoff time.

Simply, Huet needs to be better, he cost them today.

N4L wrote:Dave, Osgood doesnt cost the Wings games and has proven to be a money goaltender. To the best of my knowledge, Huet has done close to nothing and hasnt proven to be anything more then a backup for the most part.

I like The Hawks to go to the finals, but if Huet plays like that then it's going to be iffy at best come playoff time.

Simply, Huet needs to be better, he cost them today.

Not the best day to say that. Osgood let in 4 goals on his first 13 shots.

He does, however, has a significantly better resume than his division rival.

Osgood is going to be in the HHOF, Huet will be an after thought very quickly if he doesnt show he can be a number 1 goaltender...

N4L wrote:Osgood is going to be in the HHOF, Huet will be an after thought very quickly if he doesnt show he can be a number 1 goaltender...

Neely, Cristobal Huet and Stan Bowman would probably agree with you on Chris Osgood, and they already agree with you on the need for Monsieur Huet to show he is 'the man' in Chicago.

The fact is that, his Stanley Cup rings and up and down career aside, Chris Osgood had a terrible season last year. People made all kinds of excuses for him. And his shaky play in Game Seven--those two whiffle balls by Max Talbot--cost the Wings the Cup.

His save percentage in the opening game loss to the Blues suggests Ozzy is in for another up and down year.

But Osgood gets a pass from the Wings bandwagon jumpers among others.

Roberto Luongo dazzles everyone during the season, then does a spectacular meltdown against Chicago in the playoffs.

He continues his meltdown in the first game of this season.

But the Luongo Lovers gush all over Bobby Lu.

Huet gets criticized because he's an easy target.

The fact is that statistically, Cristobal Huet is among the top 10 goaltenders in the last two years who have played at least 60 games over the past three seasons.

Check out this list:
http://www.coppernblue.com/2009/7/23/958613/the-almost-top-fifty-goalies-over

You'll find the numbers very interesting.

It's also a fact that Capitals wanted to re-sign Huet and that the Wings wanted to sign Huet when he was a UFA. So his price went up. Did Dale Tallon overpay? He has said over and over again that he did. But that's the hockey market.

Now Huet has to show he's worth the money. Like every other goaltender who gets the big dough.

Does Cristobal Huet have to be excellent in goal this year for the Blackhawks to get into the playoffs? No, as long as the team in front plays well enough to win.

But for the Blackhawks to succeed in the post season, as you say, Cristo does have to make clutch saves in clutch moments.

Just like every other goaltender.

At various times, I've read comments on this board, others and alll through the hockey media that have second-guessed and criticized Cam Ward, Marc Andre Fleury, Chris Osgood and Cristobal Huet. The fact is, their teams all went to the Final Four last year.

The teams of Tim Thomas, Martin Brodeur, and Roberto Luongo, the usual favourites, did not.

Hockey is a team game, as you know.

So if people want to criticize Cristobal Huet, let them. The only thing that matters is whether or not the team gets to where they need to be.



It's a long season. Anything can happen. As you know.