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GM SIM - UFA/RFA RE-SIGNING INFO THREAD!

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Post by hemlock on Sat Feb 13, 2010 3:12 am

Hello Fellow GMs,

So, your GM Sim Management team has knocked heads and come up with some rules concerning the upcoming Free Agency period. Basically, we have come up with a system which we hope will appease everyone. This system hopefully will allow us to re-sign key UFA/RFA players, without completely ruining an open market UFA/RFA system in the offseason. It breaks down as following:

* The Management team has assigned every UFA/RFA player a dollar value. Each of us were NOT allowed input on our own players. We felt this was the fairest way to
let people re-sign players before they reach the open market without having to worry about either a GM re-signing a player for way less than market value (say, Kovalchuk for $4 million per) or having a situation where bidding ends up costing the original GM way more than market value (say, Setoguchi for $8 million). We feel this is a fair system, with fair contract numbers. We considered a few options, and in the end, it would be difficult to find any system that appeases 30 personalities.

* For re-signing, each GM who re-signs a player will have the option to elect a term of 1-5 years, at their discretion.

* Each franchise will be allowed to re-sign 5 players from throughout their organization regardless of status (RFA/UFA). So if you choose to re-sign a hot shot prospect who is RFA, you can, but that counts as one of your 4 signings. You can sign any combination of 5 RFA/UFA/NHL/Non-roster players.

*NEW AMMENDMENT: Each franchise will be allowed to resign any RFA player who's assigned value is a million or less, to a term of up to 3 years. This is done to protect the integrity of each team's farm system and prospects. These signings will still need to be pm'ed to hemlock for announcement but will not count against your 5 signings.

* The deadline to sign your (up to) 5 players before they hit market value is the trade deadline, on midnight on March 7th (going into March 8). After that, any unsigned players will be open the public, once the Free Agent market opens again.

* Once the Free Agency period opens after the playoffs (date to be determined), the UFA system will be the same as it was before this season. A single thread will be opened for each player. Then that player's thread will be open for 48 hours
for anyone to bid whatever money/term they wish to bid. After the 48 hours is up, the sim will decide who wins the rights to that player.

* If you choose to sign an older player that the Sim retires (IE. Chris Chelios), you are on the hook for the cap-hit, so choose your older players wisely!

* RFA players are done in much the same way, except that anyone who tenders an offer sheet to an RFA must hold the requisite picks for their bid (Compensation listed below). If the original GM chooses to match the highest offer, that GM shall receive a hometown discount of 10%. So, a player who is signed to an offer sheet $5 million for 5 years, shall be retained by the original team for a contract worth $4.5 million for 5 years. For bids, money trumps term, but in the event of the same money being offered, term wins. The highest bid is the bid that the original GM must "match" in order to retain the player. Failure to do so will result in loss of the player, but the GM shall receive the proper compensation.

Amount Compensation Due

$1,000,000 or less None
$1,000,001 - $1,307,812 3rd round pick
$1,307,812 - $2,615,625 2nd round pick
$2,615,623 - $3,923,437 1st and 3rd round pick
$3,923,437 - $5,231,249 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round pick
$5,231,249 - $6,539,062 Two 1st's, one 2nd, one 3rd round pick
$6,539,062 or more Two 1st's, two 2nds, two 3rd round pick

These picks MUST be your own. This means you cannot even bid should you not have the prerequisite picks for compensation.

The List of UFA/RFA players and their resigning amounts can be found here:

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Please check the list to make certain all your Free agents are there. If you find a missing player, please notify SD, M_Christopher or myself.

WHEN YOU DECIDE ON YOUR SIGNINGS, PM HEMLOCK WITH THE TITLE GM SIM FREE AGENT SIGNING. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT AS I DON'T WANT TO MISS YOUR PM. PLEASE TRY TO INCLUDE ALL YOUR SIGNINGS IN ONE PM. THANK YOU!

As a side note, I am slowly going through the draft picks as it seems many GMs don't know what picks they have. From now on, it is imperative that ALL GMS LIST EVERY ASSET ON THEIR HQ. This means draft picks, rosters, and preferably your top prospects. All GMs are asked to comply as soon as possible. Thank you!


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Re: GM SIM - UFA/RFA RE-SIGNING INFO THREAD!

Post by marakh on Sat Feb 13, 2010 5:57 am

Sounds great. How about PM-ing every GM to check this announcement? I'm pretty sure some will miss it.

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Re: GM SIM - UFA/RFA RE-SIGNING INFO THREAD!

Post by hemlock on Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:24 am

Are you volunteering?

There's a note in the trade talk thread as well as this thread. If that's not enough, then well a GM isn't active enough. I'll be posting reminders.

I don't have a group list I can PM, so I'd be doing it one by one, which isn't happening.

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Re: GM SIM - UFA/RFA RE-SIGNING INFO THREAD!

Post by marakh on Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:25 am

I thought there was a group PM just for GM's? ANyways, if not, Diddle off lool.

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Post by Blazer on Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:19 am

pretty sure there is too...

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Re: GM SIM - UFA/RFA RE-SIGNING INFO THREAD!

Post by Blazer on Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:10 am

**There are mistakes in the list***

1. Afeniganov is not a UFA. HE was signed for 4 years. I got outbid on him due to ridiculous term, now I want to see the person who outbid me suffer. Sykora is another one that is in the same situation.

Please compare FA signings (especially the term) with your current FA list and their contract expectations.

2. The are a number of players (Kane, Toews, Lucic, Semin, etc..) who signed their extensions AFTER september 1st and do not appear on the list...

Please ensure that players signed after September 1st (as mentioned in initial rules) show up in the list and have contract expectations that reflect their production in the league and not in real life.

hemlock wrote:
Phoenix30 wrote:Just wondering about
prospects....the prospects we have that arent signed will we need to
sign them or will we go with real life contracts when they are signed.
How about those that were signed after sept 1.


Nothing
that happened after Sept 1 in real life affects the sim.
I was sort of
hoping that we'd get more votes for the unsigned players poll but it
looks like 12 might be all we get. .


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Re: GM SIM - UFA/RFA RE-SIGNING INFO THREAD!

Post by The Montagoose on Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:35 am

Just wondering why we couldnt assume player contracts for those who signed between Sept 1 and next July 1...ie vermette, kane, etc

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Post by Blazer on Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:41 am

Because players were/have been traded and acquired with the notion that they are UFA. Also, a players reallife production and skill is likely not the same as his production/skill in the sim. (see Karlson Smile ) This would just mess the whole game up. Were in 'sim world' now.

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Post by Dash on Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:24 am

Does the sim tell you how much and how long a player is looking for?

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Post by DirtyDave on Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:59 am

is there a time period for GMs to sign players that are on their roster before all GMs can bid on them? Sorry if it was mentioned and i missed it.

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Post by SpezDispenser on Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:25 pm

marakh wrote:Sounds great. How about PM-ing every GM to check this announcement? I'm pretty sure some will miss it.


I'm fixing the mass PM list as we speak, there are errors from previous GMs. It'll be done in 5 minutes.

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Post by SeawaySensFan on Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:26 pm

So your RFAs become UFA if you don't sign them ?

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Post by SpezDispenser on Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:27 pm

Blazer wrote:**There are mistakes in the list***

1. Afeniganov is not a UFA. HE was signed for 4 years. I got outbid on him due to ridiculous term, now I want to see the person who outbid me suffer. Sykora is another one that is in the same situation.

Please compare FA signings (especially the term) with your current FA list and their contract expectations.

2. The are a number of players (Kane, Toews, Lucic, Semin, etc..) who signed their extensions AFTER september 1st and do not appear on the list...

Please ensure that players signed after September 1st (as mentioned in initial rules) show up in the list and have contract expectations that reflect their production in the league and not in real life.

hemlock wrote:
Phoenix30 wrote:Just wondering about
prospects....the prospects we have that arent signed will we need to
sign them or will we go with real life contracts when they are signed.
How about those that were signed after sept 1.


Nothing
that happened after Sept 1 in real life affects the sim.
I was sort of
hoping that we'd get more votes for the unsigned players poll but it
looks like 12 might be all we get. .


I'll look through these now and PM Hemlock and Mark. That was a step that got missed on my end.

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Post by SpezDispenser on Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:35 pm

Does anyone know where I can find a list of guys that signed in the 'real' NHL from Sept. 1 to now? I had it bookmarked at work and had done work on it and now I can't find it.

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Post by hemlock on Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:09 pm

SeawaySensFan wrote:So your RFAs become UFA if you don't sign them ?


No, they are still RFA, you still hold their rights. If you do not sign them by the deadline, they will go to the open market when the FA period opens. Then the standard RFA bidding happens.

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Post by sens4win on Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:33 pm

things seem like they are going to get very confusing for me


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Post by marakh on Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:35 pm

SpezDispenser wrote:Does anyone know where I can find a list of guys that signed in the 'real' NHL from Sept. 1 to now? I had it bookmarked at work and had done work on it and now I can't find it.


http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=34751

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Post by SpezDispenser on Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:47 pm

sens4win wrote:things seem like they are going to get very confusing for me


No, no. It's easy. If you need me to help you, I'll help you.

Is your roster up to date? If not, update it and I'll show you which guys you need to consider signing and how much they've been allocated.

Me, Hemlock, Mark will help anyone having issues to get going. We won't help you to actually sign the guys, but if you're having issues, we can help out. It's pretty simple though.

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Post by SpezDispenser on Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:48 pm

marakh wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:Does anyone know where I can find a list of guys that signed in the 'real' NHL from Sept. 1 to now? I had it bookmarked at work and had done work on it and now I can't find it.


http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=34751


Diddle. That's a whole lot easier. Thanks. ThumbsUp

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Post by sens4win on Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:50 pm

so were do i find the list of free agents for me ?

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Post by marakh on Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:52 pm

sens4win wrote:so were do i find the list of free agents for me ?


You have to check your roster, see which ones are free agents at the end of the year by the real NHL standards (those who signed after Sept 1 in the real world don't count).

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Post by cain69 on Sat Feb 13, 2010 3:00 pm

So can we start signing player now or not? and how many can we sign at a time.And does this include unsign prospects? like (Johansson exp.)

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Post by SpezDispenser on Sat Feb 13, 2010 3:12 pm

Yep, remember you get 4 players to re-sign right now, pick carefully.

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Post by cain69 on Sat Feb 13, 2010 3:53 pm

SpezDispenser wrote:Yep, remember you get 4 players to re-sign right now, pick carefully.



And unsigned prospect count has the 4th signing

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Post by hemlock on Sat Feb 13, 2010 5:41 pm

cain69 wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:Yep, remember you get 4 players to re-sign right now, pick carefully.



And unsigned prospect count has the 4th signing


No, these are for free agents only. An unsigned prospect don't fall under this category.

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Post by hemlock on Sat Feb 13, 2010 5:46 pm

Guys, I realize that the list isn't perfect. There are bound to be a few oversights. My advice is to research your team and see what players you have become free agents after this season. Then make you decisions based on your needs.

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Post by cain69 on Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:12 pm

I just don't understand why we are only be able to sign 4 player.

We should be able to sign as many player as we can ,as long as it fits under our cap.

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Post by Blazer on Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:22 pm

Its not complicated. Its RESIGN not sign. BAsically they are making life easier for you by not letting all your UFAs hit Free Agency. WE are talking about in season resignings not offseason resigning or signing...

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Post by sens4win on Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:39 pm

cain69 wrote:I just don't understand why we are only be able to sign 4 player.

We should be able to sign as many player as we can ,as long as it fits under our cap.
ya thats a good idea im not trying to bash the system though im just wondering..

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Post by hemlock on Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:04 pm

cain69 wrote:I just don't understand why we are only be able to sign 4 player.

We should be able to sign as many player as we can ,as long as it fits under our cap.


Because that would really damage the off-season free agent market.

And for teams to re-sign EVERY free agent is just not realistic.

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Post by M_Christopher on Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:15 pm

cain69 wrote:I just don't understand why we are only be able to sign 4 player.

We should be able to sign as many player as we can ,as long as it fits under our cap.


Because if we allow everyone to resign every player on thier team they want.

July 1st will feature the top prize of a Richard Park or an equvilant.

This system provides teams with a fair opportunity to retain their most important players, while still providing an exciting 'Open Market' day.

The only way your gonna lose a star player is if YOU don't a) resign him as one of your 4. or b) You aren't willing to pay market value for him.

The likelyhood of your RFA's getting poached are slim, and if you let them, well your getting a box of picks likely worth more than his value.

There is almost no chance a player like Kovalchuk is going to hit free-agency, so this our way of keeping that time period interesting.

If your really worried, do what I did, trade away some impending UFA/RFA's for players already signed.

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Post by SpezDispenser on Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:21 pm

No one wants mass sign and trades either. Players will hit free agency, there's no question. Otherwise, they wouldn't.

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Post by sens4win on Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:43 pm

M_Christopher wrote:
cain69 wrote:I just don't understand why we are only be able to sign 4 player.

We should be able to sign as many player as we can ,as long as it fits under our cap.


Because if we allow everyone to resign every player on thier team they want.

July 1st will feature the top prize of a Richard Park or an equvilant.

This system provides teams with a fair opportunity to retain their most important players, while still providing an exciting 'Open Market' day.

The only way your gonna lose a star player is if YOU don't a) resign him as one of your 4. or b) You aren't willing to pay market value for him.

The likelyhood of your RFA's getting poached are slim, and if you let them, well your getting a box of picks likely worth more than his value.

There is almost no chance a player like Kovalchuk is going to hit free-agency, so this our way of keeping that time period interesting.

If your really worried, do what I did, trade away some impending UFA/RFA's for players already signed.
thats a great way to make a what would be boring period fun and good way to improve your team

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Post by Tuk Tuk on Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:57 pm

M_Christopher wrote:
cain69 wrote:I just don't understand why we are only be able to sign 4 player.

We should be able to sign as many player as we can ,as long as it fits under our cap.


Because if we allow everyone to resign every player on thier team they want.

July 1st will feature the top prize of a Richard Park or an equvilant.

This system provides teams with a fair opportunity to retain their most important players, while still providing an exciting 'Open Market' day.

The only way your gonna lose a star player is if YOU don't a) resign him as one of your 4. or b) You aren't willing to pay market value for him.

The likelyhood of your RFA's getting poached are slim, and if you let them, well your getting a box of picks likely worth more than his value.

There is almost no chance a player like Kovalchuk is going to hit free-agency, so this our way of keeping that time period interesting.

If your really worried, do what I did, trade away some impending UFA/RFA's for players already signed.


It wont, I plan on resigning him

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Post by sens4win on Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:22 pm

Tuk Tuk wrote:
M_Christopher wrote:
cain69 wrote:I just don't understand why we are only be able to sign 4 player.

We should be able to sign as many player as we can ,as long as it fits under our cap.


Because if we allow everyone to resign every player on thier team they want.

July 1st will feature the top prize of a Richard Park or an equvilant.

This system provides teams with a fair opportunity to retain their most important players, while still providing an exciting 'Open Market' day.

The only way your gonna lose a star player is if YOU don't a) resign him as one of your 4. or b) You aren't willing to pay market value for him.

The likelyhood of your RFA's getting poached are slim, and if you let them, well your getting a box of picks likely worth more than his value.

There is almost no chance a player like Kovalchuk is going to hit free-agency, so this our way of keeping that time period interesting.

If your really worried, do what I did, trade away some impending UFA/RFA's for players already signed.


It wont, I plan on resigning him
Dammit!

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Re: GM SIM - UFA/RFA RE-SIGNING INFO THREAD!

Post by hemlock on Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:26 pm

Tuk Tuk wrote:
M_Christopher wrote:
cain69 wrote:I just don't understand why we are only be able to sign 4 player.

We should be able to sign as many player as we can ,as long as it fits under our cap.


Because if we allow everyone to resign every player on thier team they want.

July 1st will feature the top prize of a Richard Park or an equvilant.

This system provides teams with a fair opportunity to retain their most important players, while still providing an exciting 'Open Market' day.

The only way your gonna lose a star player is if YOU don't a) resign him as one of your 4. or b) You aren't willing to pay market value for him.

The likelyhood of your RFA's getting poached are slim, and if you let them, well your getting a box of picks likely worth more than his value.

There is almost no chance a player like Kovalchuk is going to hit free-agency, so this our way of keeping that time period interesting.

If your really worried, do what I did, trade away some impending UFA/RFA's for players already signed.


It wont, I plan on resigning him


Cripes, the elaborate plan to steal Park is denied.

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Post by marakh on Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:38 am

I sent my 4 names, can I update my page now?

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Post by hemlock on Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:41 am

Just gimme a few. We'll need to figure out how to announce all of these. I need to confirm the numbers as well.

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Post by marakh on Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:56 am

hemlock wrote:Just gimme a few. We'll need to figure out how to announce all of these. I need to confirm the numbers as well.


OK no prob. Was just wondering since sir Christopher has already announced his signings.

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Post by M_Christopher on Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:09 am

marakh wrote:
hemlock wrote:Just gimme a few. We'll need to figure out how to announce all of these. I need to confirm the numbers as well.


OK no prob. Was just wondering since sir Christopher has already announced his signings.


yeah but I'm an Donkey.....

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