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Post by asq2 on Sat May 16, 2009 11:15 am

For those experiencing hockey withdrawal during the break between SC playoff rounds, the Memorial Cup is here to help by offering a potential doozy of a game between the Drummondville Voltigeurs (led by high-scoring Yannick Riendeau) and the Windsor Spitfires (led by OHL playoff MVP and potential 2010 first over-all pick Taylor Hall).

Game is on Sportsnet starting at 4:30 Eastern Time.

For Sens fans interested in potential picks at the upcoming 2009 draft, the game will also feature defencemen Ryan Ellis (not that I'm really interested in taking him) and Dmitry Kulikov (who I am).

Team Previews for Drummondville and Windsor:
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/juniors/2009/05/13/2009_memorial_cup_voltigeurs/
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/juniors/2009/05/13/2009_memorial_cup_spitfires/

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Re: Memorial Cup Thread

Post by Guest on Sat May 16, 2009 11:38 am

Taylor Hall is amazing. Can we suck next year please? Sarcasm

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Re: Memorial Cup Thread

Post by marakh on Sat May 16, 2009 12:22 pm

Anybody saw yesterday's game? The Backlund pass Scared2

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Post by marakh on Sat May 16, 2009 4:24 pm

Everybody should look at Kullikov this afternoon. I think some would change their mind about drafting a forward Wink

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Post by Guest on Sat May 16, 2009 4:37 pm

Drum. captain has 54 points in 19 playoff games.... how is that possible, haha. That is just insane.

Looking forward to seeing Kulikov too.

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Post by marakh on Sat May 16, 2009 10:40 pm

Couldn't see the game. Read on HFBoards Kullikov and Loktionov were the best players on the ice.. This definitely help the Sens. If Kullikov wins the cup, he gets drafted 2nd Defenseman after Hedman IMO. Somewhere around 7-8.

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Post by asq2 on Sat May 16, 2009 11:42 pm

marakh wrote:Couldn't see the game. Read on HFBoards Kullikov and Loktionov were the best players on the ice.. This definitely help the Sens. If Kullikov wins the cup, he gets drafted 2nd Defenseman after Hedman IMO. Somewhere around 7-8.


There were some moments where you could see Taylor Hall's talent though.

I'll admit: I turned off after Windsor scored their second goal. I thought that was it for Drummondville for sure. Shows what I know.

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Post by Guest on Sun May 17, 2009 12:05 am

Kulikov was just awesome, dominate, and you can just tell that kid is special. I dont even think the Sens will have a shot at him.

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Post by Guest on Sun May 17, 2009 1:20 am

Neely4Life wrote:Kulikov was just awesome, dominate, and you can just tell that kid is special. I dont even think the Sens will have a shot at him.


There are quite a few quality d-men though. I can't see OEL, Hedman, Kulikov and Cowen all going in the top 9 with the amount of quality forwards there are as well. Let's assume that Hedman out of the question. That leaves 3 guys who would have to go between picks 4 to 8 in order for us to miss any of them(assuming the top 3 are Hedman, Tavares and Duchene). If that happens, there's bound to be a guy like MPS or Kane still in play. Either way, we are in great shape.

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Post by asq2 on Sun May 17, 2009 11:53 am

hemlock wrote:
Neely4Life wrote:Kulikov was just awesome, dominate, and you can just tell that kid is special. I dont even think the Sens will have a shot at him.


There are quite a few quality d-men though. I can't see OEL, Hedman, Kulikov and Cowen all going in the top 9 with the amount of quality forwards there are as well. Let's assume that Hedman out of the question. That leaves 3 guys who would have to go between picks 4 to 8 in order for us to miss any of them(assuming the top 3 are Hedman, Tavares and Duchene). If that happens, there's bound to be a guy like MPS or Kane still in play. Either way, we are in great shape.


We are guaranteed one of Tavares, Hedman, Duchene, MPS, Kane, Schenn, OEL, Cowen or Kulikov if we should so choose.

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Post by marakh on Mon May 18, 2009 11:53 am

Spitfires lose again. Rimouski looked pretty good.. I want that Caron kid.
Rimouski's defensive corps is impressing me, and I only know COrmier (Damn those Devils.)

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Post by asq2 on Mon May 18, 2009 12:23 pm

marakh wrote:Spitfires lose again. Rimouski looked pretty good.. I want that Caron kid.
Rimouski's defensive corps is impressing me, and I only know COrmier (Damn those Devils.)


Unfortunately, in all likelyhood, Caron is more the San Jose Sharks' first round pick range than either of our seconds.

I would gladly trade to move up. We're pretty weak on the wing prospect-wise.

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Re: Memorial Cup Thread

Post by marakh on Mon May 18, 2009 12:33 pm

Your previous post was pretty encouraging, so Im not too worried.


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Post by asq2 on Mon May 18, 2009 12:34 pm

For those wishing to see some of Kulikov, he and the Voltigeurs have a game today against the Kelowna Rockets, who are looking to become the third straight WHL team to win the Memorial Cup.

Kelowna looked excellent in their opener against host Rimouski (who shocked Windsor).

Game is at 4:30 on Sportsnet.

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Post by asq2 on Mon May 18, 2009 12:35 pm

marakh wrote:Your previous [pst was [retty encouraging, so Im not too worried.


Yeah, we should have a pretty good draft. cool)

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Post by Dash on Mon May 18, 2009 1:15 pm

I'm rooting for Kelowna now. Myers is playing like a (young) man possessed. Good pick for Buffalo.

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Post by asq2 on Mon May 18, 2009 1:18 pm

Dash wrote:I'm rooting for Kelowna now. Myers is playing like a (young) man possessed. Good pick for Buffalo.


A lot of upside.

The first round in 2008 in general was pretty spectacular for defencemen: Doughty, Bogosian, Pietrangelo, Schenn, Myers, Teubert, Karlsson, Gardiner, Sbisa, Del Zotto, Cuma, Carlson.

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Post by marakh on Mon May 18, 2009 5:56 pm

asq2 wrote:For those wishing to see some of Kulikov, he and the Voltigeurs have a game today against the Kelowna Rockets, who are looking to become the third straight WHL team to win the Memorial Cup.

Kelowna looked excellent in their opener against host Rimouski (who shocked Windsor).

Game is at 4:30 on Sportsnet.


I think it is at 7:00.

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Post by asq2 on Mon May 18, 2009 6:14 pm

marakh wrote:
asq2 wrote:For those wishing to see some of Kulikov, he and the Voltigeurs have a game today against the Kelowna Rockets, who are looking to become the third straight WHL team to win the Memorial Cup.

Kelowna looked excellent in their opener against host Rimouski (who shocked Windsor).

Game is at 4:30 on Sportsnet.


I think it is at 7:00.


Yeah, turns out I can't read a TV schedule. :oops:

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Post by marakh on Mon May 18, 2009 9:04 pm

Damn this game is too good. Im not even wathcing the Pens-Canes game lol.
Kulikov is amazing, runs the pp, makes awesome first passes, more than good defensively and more importantly, battles like a warrior.
He made one big turnover though, but those kind of things don't matter to me.

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Post by asq2 on Mon May 18, 2009 9:05 pm

marakh wrote:Damn this game is too good. Im not even wathcing the Pens-Canes game lol.
Kulikov is amazing, runs the pp, makes awesome first passes, more than good defensively and more importantly, battles like a warrior.
He made one big turnover though, but those kind of things don't matter to me.


He's had a bit of a rough night defensively. If I'm not mistaken, he got burned in the second goal as well.

He's still my 9th choice, though. But I still rank OEL above him.

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Post by marakh on Mon May 18, 2009 9:14 pm

Yeah, he was on the ice the 2d goal as well, but the play Benn made was just too good. But he saved some pretty good chances too, and blocked a few shots.

And he's got a bomb too.
I don;t know, just imagining a PP with Karlsson, Wiercoch and Kulikov, I'm Ahhhhh!

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Post by asq2 on Mon May 18, 2009 9:17 pm

marakh wrote:Yeah, he was on the ice the 2d goal as well, but the play Benn made was just too good. But he saved some pretty good chances too, and blocked a few shots.

And he's got a bomb too.
I don;t know, just imagining a PP with Karlsson, Wiercoch and Kulikov, I'm Ahhhhh!


Do you make one of them play a forward position? Wink

Yeah, it would be nice. Granted, I'm less concerned about the powerplay and more concerned about five-on-five play and the PK. I mean, is that PP any better than one with Ellis on it instead of Kulikov?

Don't get me wrong, though, Kulikov would be a great choice (and should be a much better option 5-on-5 and maybe even 4-on-5. But between the three post-Hedman defencemen, I'd probably take Cowen and OEL first.

Anyway, it's nice to be guaranteed one of them (should we want one).

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Post by marakh on Mon May 18, 2009 9:22 pm

well, you put Philips with Karlssn and Volchie with Kulikov Wink .

On another note, Jamie Benn a 5th rounder, seriously? Scared2
He has 4 goals and 1 assist tonight Ahhhhh!

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Post by asq2 on Mon May 18, 2009 9:30 pm

marakh wrote:well, you put Philips with Karlssn and Volchie with Kulikov Wink .


They're too old to include in my vision of the future. Razz

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Post by marakh on Mon May 18, 2009 9:43 pm

C'mon, Volchie is 27, and Philips will play Chelios-style :^^^^:

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Post by Dash on Tue May 19, 2009 4:12 pm

Yup, Benn is a beast and he sure is quite a gem to have been drafted in the 5th round. Making a lot of teams regret passing him up I think.

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Post by pgood on Tue May 19, 2009 10:32 pm

And the Spits stave off elimination with a HUGE 2-1 win over Kelowa...

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Post by marakh on Sat May 23, 2009 1:04 pm

Windsor vs Kelowna for the Final game tomorrow.
COngrats to Rimouski and especially Drummondvilel for battling until the end, even in atrocious health conditions and without one of their best forward.

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Post by Cap'n Clutch on Mon May 25, 2009 7:10 am

Talk about an incredible story for Windsor's first Memorial Cup!! The only team to ever go down 0 and 2 to start the tournament and then rattle off 4 straight to win the whole thing.

Wow! I tip my hat to the Spitfires.

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Post by wprager on Mon May 25, 2009 7:58 am

Let's not forget, this one was for Mickey Renaud, their former captain who passed away 16 months ago.

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Post by Cap'n Clutch on Mon May 25, 2009 10:05 am

wprager wrote:Let's not forget, this one was for Mickey Renaud, their former captain who passed away 16 months ago.


They could make a movie me thinks.

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Post by Dash on Mon May 25, 2009 3:10 pm

Yeah no kidding... Team Captain passes away, the team finishes top of the OHL with amazing record, then looks to tank in the Memorial Cup going down 2 games early, only to rally back and win 3 straight to win their first championship and dedicating their winning season to their fallen friend and teammate.

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Post by wprager on Mon May 25, 2009 5:30 pm

Well, Renaud passed away the previous year. They didn't do nearly as well that year.

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Post by Guest on Mon May 25, 2009 5:37 pm

wprager wrote:Well, Renaud passed away the previous year. They didn't do nearly as well that year.


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Post by asq2 on Mon May 25, 2009 7:19 pm

You also have to think Hall is helping himself out by winning championships.

OHL champ, CHL champ, probably World Junior champ next season and the Spits, with the introduction of Panik and Fowler, may be even better next season.

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