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Re: Kovalchuk trade watch

Post by Guest on Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:09 pm

PR? He wants to leave he doesnt want to through the organization under the bus. It's never been about money.

What he's doing is perfect, keeping his mouth shut and moving on. Nothing wrong with that.

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Post by marakh on Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:16 pm

Yeah but when he signs for way less on another team in the summer (because let's face it, he's not gonna make more than OV), everybody will know he didn't want to stay in ATL.
Whether he says it or not, no difference IMO.

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Post by Dash on Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:42 pm



The lucky GM who lands Ilya also gets this beautiful Omega "ILYA KOVALCHUK WATCH" Vancouver 2010 Edition.

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Post by Bramlet07 on Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:27 pm

Dreger and FSN says hes now a devil. I wonder what they gave up?

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Post by AlfieisGod11 on Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:32 pm

Bramlet07 wrote:Dreger and FSN says hes now a devil. I wonder what they gave up?

If it is the Devils good for them, but I don't see this as great of a situation for Kovalchuk. I really thought the Rangers on this one......

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Post by AlfieisGod11 on Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:36 pm

Although him and Parise sound like a really good 1-2 punch

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Post by Dash on Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:04 pm

USA Today says Devils too.

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Post by Hoags on Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:17 pm

http://twitter.com/kausatoday

Atlanta Thrashers receive Oduya, Bergfors, Patrice Cormier and a 1st-round pick for Kovalchuk


Cormier ???

sounds like Atlanta got fleeced

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Post by Hockeyhero22000 on Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:20 pm

WTF what a horrible trade for atlanta

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Re: Kovalchuk trade watch

Post by sens4win on Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:21 pm

Hoags wrote:http://twitter.com/kausatoday

Atlanta Thrashers receive Oduya, Bergfors, Patrice Cormier and a 1st-round pick for Kovalchuk


Cormier ???

sounds like Atlanta got fleeced

thats it ? cormier is no superstar oduya is well 4 points and a 1st from the devils well thats about the best part about this trade and bergfors
my friend is a big atlanta fan his uncle is the goalie coach. He has now lost
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Post by Dash on Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:21 pm

They did. Again I want to ask... where's this so called veto power by Bettman? If it exists and he is prepared to use it to prevent Tampa from trading Vinny, why not save Atlanta's franchise player?

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Post by Hockeyhero22000 on Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:21 pm

kovalchuk is definately going to free agency

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Post by PKC on Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:22 pm

Hahaha...worst. trade. ever.

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Post by Hockeyhero22000 on Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:24 pm

devils look a little scarier parise elias kovalchuk line

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Post by Dash on Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:26 pm

Only way I can see Atlanta winning this trade now is if Kovalchuk gets injured for the season and playoffs while at the Olympics.

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Post by Bramlet07 on Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:26 pm

Dash wrote:They did. Again I want to ask... where's this so called veto power by Bettman? If it exists and he is prepared to use it to prevent Tampa from trading Vinny, why not save Atlanta's franchise player?


Cuz everyone knows Kovie was walking at seasons end and this trade is better then nothin.

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Post by PKC on Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:28 pm

Dash wrote:Only way I can see Atlanta winning this trade now is if Kovalchuk gets injured for the season and playoffs while at the Olympics.

that first round pick better turn into a superstar cause the rest of that trade package isn't worth the paper that it got faxed into NHL headquarters on.

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Post by Dash on Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:29 pm

I am shocked that L.A. couldn't beat that offer, or just did not want him.

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Post by Dash on Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:30 pm

Really, I kind of see NJ winning by sending Cormier, now he is someone else's problem. And Atlanta couldn't have gotten Tedenby, or Josefsen?

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Post by Hoags on Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:31 pm

USA Today says the Blues and Sens were the other 2 teams ???

Someone on HFboards said that Atlanta wanted Fisher, Karlsson, Neil and our 1st rounder.

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Re: Kovalchuk trade watch

Post by benIII24III on Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:33 pm

NJ won

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Re: Kovalchuk trade watch

Post by AlfieisGod11 on Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:34 pm

Hoags wrote:USA Today says the Blues and Sens were the other 2 teams ???

Someone on HFboards said that Atlanta wanted Fisher, Karlsson, Neil and our 1st rounder.


We know now Murray has a brain

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Post by Hockeyhero22000 on Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:40 pm

kovalchuk was going to free agency it wasn't worth it just for a rental

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Post by AlfieisGod11 on Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:45 pm

Hockeyhero22000 wrote:kovalchuk was going to free agency it wasn't worth it just for a rental


Karlsson, Fisher, Neil and a 1st for Kovalchuk would a been a total rip

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Post by beedub on Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:10 pm

Did I just hear right?? Is Kovy a Devil??

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Post by hemlock on Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:20 pm

beedub wrote:Did I just hear right?? Is Kovy a Devil??


Yep. Bergfors, Oduya, Patrice Cormier and a 1st.

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Post by SpezDispenser on Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:21 pm

Kovy's a Devil?

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Post by SpezDispenser on Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:21 pm

hemlock wrote:
beedub wrote:Did I just hear right?? Is Kovy a Devil??


Yep. Bergfors, Oduya, Patrice Cormier and a 1st.


Holy crap.

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Re: Kovalchuk trade watch

Post by Hockeyhero22000 on Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:22 pm

SpezDispenser wrote:
hemlock wrote:
beedub wrote:Did I just hear right?? Is Kovy a Devil??


Yep. Bergfors, Oduya, Patrice Cormier and a 1st.


Holy crap.


not worth it since he is going to be only a rental no way does lemaire cough up the cash the kovalchuck wants

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Post by hemlock on Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:23 pm

Oduya is the key to this deal. Bergfors is a nice player and who knows what the pick will be but for the here and now, Oduya is the key piece going back. He's very underrated.

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Post by Hockeyhero22000 on Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:25 pm

True enough oduya is a very good d man and very underrated

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Post by hemlock on Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:26 pm

Hockeyhero22000 wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:
hemlock wrote:
beedub wrote:Did I just hear right?? Is Kovy a Devil??


Yep. Bergfors, Oduya, Patrice Cormier and a 1st.


Holy crap.


not worth it since he is going to be only a rental no way does lemaire cough up the cash the kovalchuck wants


Lemaire won't. Neither will Lamoriello, the GM. Wink

Still, Lou probably realizes that Brodeur's shelf life isn't so long and he's probably feeling Marty's got one more huge run in him. Why not take advantage of it? None of these guys are core guys. Kovalchuk will either have more space in NJ with Parise there, or free up some for Parise. I don't think they'll play on the same line since Parise prefers the LW. Keeping them apart forces teams to play a lesser line against one of them.

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Post by Hoags on Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:33 pm

So if NJ won't resign who'll be the winner on july 1st ?

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Post by hemlock on Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:34 pm

Hoags wrote:So if NJ won't resign who'll be the winner on july 1st ?


The Kings are where I am putting my money. They've got the cap space, and the team to attract Kovy. Plus, they don't have to give assets up.

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Post by Hockeyhero22000 on Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:35 pm

depends where Kovy wants to go i think he already has an idea where he wants to be

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Post by PKC on Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:37 pm

AlfieisGod11 wrote:
Hockeyhero22000 wrote:kovalchuk was going to free agency it wasn't worth it just for a rental


Karlsson, Fisher, Neil and a 1st for Kovalchuk would a been a total rip


How is that package at all even close to what they got? What an idiot Waddell is. That guy is fired for sure after this season.

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Post by M_Christopher on Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:38 pm

PKC wrote:
AlfieisGod11 wrote:
Hockeyhero22000 wrote:kovalchuk was going to free agency it wasn't worth it just for a rental


Karlsson, Fisher, Neil and a 1st for Kovalchuk would a been a total rip


How is that package at all even close to what they got? What an idiot Waddell is. That guy is fired for sure after this season.


Yeah, I don't think they got a very good return fro Kovalchuk, at all.

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Post by beedub on Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:39 pm

Hockeyhero22000 wrote:depends where Kovy wants to go i think he already has an idea where he wants to be


Toronto, mark my words

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Post by The Montagoose on Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:43 pm

Makes you wonder why chicago didnt put in an offer to move out some salary. There is no doubt in my mind right now that a sharp and seabrook could have landed him. Of the deals this week who got fleeced the most.

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Post by hemlock on Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:48 pm

I don't think the return is that bad. Bergfors has talent and with more ice time and PP time in ATL could be a 25 goal guy. Oduya is very solid defenceman, an olympian in fact. The 1st won't be too high, but it could be a useful pick to trade up, or down. Cormier? Well, he's a gearbox and I am surprised he had anyone show interest in him. Who knows what names were thrown around, but I would really have tried for Bergfors, Oduya and Tedenby.

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Post by PKC on Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:52 pm

As if this trade wasn't bad enough, but apparently they also swapped their second round picks this year. Holy Dung that's a brutal trade.

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Post by hemlock on Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:57 pm

PKC wrote:As if this trade wasn't bad enough, but apparently they also swapped their second round picks this year. Holy Dung that's a brutal trade.


He's a RENTAL. NJ will get no more than 60 games out of Kovy, and that's if they make the finals. Call it what you want, but clearly, there wasn't a better offer out there, or else Waddell would have taken it. Like I said, Waddell faired pretty well, certainly better than the Hossa deal.

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Post by garblar on Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:21 pm

The Montagoose wrote:Makes you wonder why chicago didnt put in an offer to move out some salary. There is no doubt in my mind right now that a sharp and seabrook could have landed him. Of the deals this week who got fleeced the most.


sharp and seabrook? that would be challenged for chicago.
absolutely challenged

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