Senators to make announcement today at 9:30 am

SensFan71 wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Murray has offered Volchenkov a new contract apparently. Volchenkov will decide soon.

I hope he agrees and that is a nice cap friendly number.

I wonder what he offered...3.5?

Michallica wrote:

sens4win wrote:

Michallica wrote:Happy to have Bryan Murray aboard for next year. Strange that its only a 1 year extension though. I wonder if Murray will retire after next year

murray will never retire!

Hahha well if he retires, I'm guessing Tim Murray will take over. there there

thats not to bad

SpezDispenser wrote:Murray has offered Volchenkov a new contract apparently. Volchenkov will decide soon.

Oooo. May I ask "source?"

SpezDispenser wrote:

SensFan71 wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Murray has offered Volchenkov a new contract apparently. Volchenkov will decide soon.

I hope he agrees and that is a nice cap friendly number.

I wonder what he offered...3.5?

without Volchenkov last night we would have lost he blocked so many ovie shots, and was able to keep him to the outside, anyone know what were going to do if this guy leaves ?

rooneypoo wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Murray has offered Volchenkov a new contract apparently. Volchenkov will decide soon.

Oooo. May I ask "source?"

From his presser this morning as reported by the Team.

rooneypoo wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Murray has offered Volchenkov a new contract apparently. Volchenkov will decide soon.

Oooo. May I ask "source?"

This article. Of course, its by our good friend Boo-Boo, so make of it what you will.

Hmm Senschirp reporting that Lee has been called up to replace Campoli.

sens4win wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Murray has offered Volchenkov a new contract apparently. Volchenkov will decide soon.

i really dont see why this is so hard move picard campoli cheechoo and voila cap space

Because moving players of that caliber is really hard. Like, scoring from 200-feet away from the goal kinda hard. It happens (see: Toskala, Vesa), but just not everyday. Cheechoo's contract in particular is an anchor that no one's going to take off our hands, so stop dreaming about that one.

Plus, you need someone to play in place of Picard and Campoli, and they're going to cost at least as much what those two are earning now (which is just a pinch over the league minimum). I don't know about you, but I don't want to try going it with 5 D next year.

And voila, that's why figuring out how to squeeze Volchenkov's raise into our salary cap structure is so difficult.

rooneypoo wrote:

sens4win wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Murray has offered Volchenkov a new contract apparently. Volchenkov will decide soon.

i really dont see why this is so hard move picard campoli cheechoo and voila cap space

Because moving players of that caliber is really hard. Like, scoring from 200-feet away from the goal kinda hard. It happens (see: Toskala, Vesa), but just not everyday. Cheechoo's contract in particular is an anchor that no one's going to take off our hands, so stop dreaming about that one.

Plus, you need someone to play in place of Picard and Campoli, and they're going to cost at least as much what those two are earning now (which is just a pinch over the league minimum). I don't know about you, but I don't want to try going it with 5 D next year.

And voila, that's why figuring out how to squeeze Volchenkov's raise into our salary cap structure is so difficult.

well if you put it that way. looks like he wont be signed till we trade some guys.

sens4win wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

SensFan71 wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Murray has offered Volchenkov a new contract apparently. Volchenkov will decide soon.

I hope he agrees and that is a nice cap friendly number.

I wonder what he offered...3.5?

without Volchenkov last night we would have lost he blocked so many ovie shots, and was able to keep him to the outside, anyone know what were going to do if this guy leaves ?

I read somewhere this morning that Volchenkov had 11 block shots last night, and it was phrased like this: "... which was 8 less saves than Elliott made."

LOL.

And for the record, no, I don't think Elliott had a bad game, I just thought the way the point was phrased really draws attention to Volchenkov's importance to this team.

SpezDispenser wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Murray has offered Volchenkov a new contract apparently. Volchenkov will decide soon.

Oooo. May I ask "source?"

From his presser this morning as reported by the Team.

That's the kinda source I like.

rooneypoo wrote:

sens4win wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Murray has offered Volchenkov a new contract apparently. Volchenkov will decide soon.

i really dont see why this is so hard move picard campoli cheechoo and voila cap space

Because moving players of that caliber is really hard. Like, scoring from 200-feet away from the goal kinda hard. It happens (see: Toskala, Vesa), but just not everyday. Cheechoo's contract in particular is an anchor that no one's going to take off our hands, so stop dreaming about that one.

Plus, you need someone to play in place of Picard and Campoli, and they're going to cost at least as much what those two are earning now (which is just a pinch over the league minimum). I don't know about you, but I don't want to try going it with 5 D next year.

And voila, that's why figuring out how to squeeze Volchenkov's raise into our salary cap structure is so difficult.

So Rooney in your opinion would a 2.5 - 3 million Zbynek Michalek be an acceptable replacement

ddt wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Murray has offered Volchenkov a new contract apparently. Volchenkov will decide soon.

Oooo. May I ask "source?"

This article. Of course, its by our good friend Boo-Boo, so make of it what you will.

Excellent. I like that we're officially moving forward on this, at least. The complete silence on this question up 'till now was a little troubling.

Michallica wrote:Hmm Senschirp reporting that Lee has been called up to replace Campoli.

Big chance for Lee. Biggest of his life actually.

Devo wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

sens4win wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Murray has offered Volchenkov a new contract apparently. Volchenkov will decide soon.

i really dont see why this is so hard move picard campoli cheechoo and voila cap space

Because moving players of that caliber is really hard. Like, scoring from 200-feet away from the goal kinda hard. It happens (see: Toskala, Vesa), but just not everyday. Cheechoo's contract in particular is an anchor that no one's going to take off our hands, so stop dreaming about that one.

Plus, you need someone to play in place of Picard and Campoli, and they're going to cost at least as much what those two are earning now (which is just a pinch over the league minimum). I don't know about you, but I don't want to try going it with 5 D next year.

And voila, that's why figuring out how to squeeze Volchenkov's raise into our salary cap structure is so difficult.

So Rooney in your opinion would a 2.5 - 3 million Zbynek Michalek be an acceptable replacement

If you could get him at that price, sure.

I'd be more in favour of trading Kuba the minute that NTC expires, and buying out Cheechoo. That's $5.7 mil off your cap next year alone. Out of that money, you give Volchenkov his raise (another $1.5 mil or so), and you spend the rest (or most of it) on a guy like Hamhuis or Kubina.

Kuba has been deceptively bad this year, as I think most people have noticed.

SpezDispenser wrote:

Michallica wrote:Hmm Senschirp reporting that Lee has been called up to replace Campoli.

Big chance for Lee. Biggest of his life actually.

perhaps a showcase for him being traded?

SpezDispenser wrote:

SensFan71 wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Murray has offered Volchenkov a new contract apparently. Volchenkov will decide soon.

I hope he agrees and that is a nice cap friendly number.

I wonder what he offered...3.5?

I'm very curious to see what comes of this. Sign Volchenkov PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We wouldn't have won yesterday without him.

Kuba is horrible by the way.

He could have had four or five. If he had of hit the net on any more shots he would have scored. That's the same on both teams. Ovie had one shot on goal because (Senators defenceman Anton) Volchenkov blocked 11," Boudreau said.

SpezDispenser wrote:

Michallica wrote:Hmm Senschirp reporting that Lee has been called up to replace Campoli.

Big chance for Lee. Biggest of his life actually.

Last call for Lee.

In other news: unless this is an emergency recall, this injury and call-up further dips into our cap space, and so how much we can spend on trade deadline day. Rosters are frozen this afternoon, which means we have to pay Lee to be with the team for the next 2 weeks (players are paid by day, not by game) -- again, unless this is an emergency recall.

SpezDispenser wrote:

Michallica wrote:Hmm Senschirp reporting that Lee has been called up to replace Campoli.

Big chance for Lee. Biggest of his life actually.

???? To replace Campoli for what? This is odd.

To replace Kuba maybe?

SensGirl11 wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

Michallica wrote:Hmm Senschirp reporting that Lee has been called up to replace Campoli.

Big chance for Lee. Biggest of his life actually.

???? To replace Campoli for what? This is odd.

To replace Kuba maybe?

Campoli was apparently injured last night. Sounds like weeks rather than days.

SensFan71 wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

Michallica wrote:Hmm Senschirp reporting that Lee has been called up to replace Campoli.

Big chance for Lee. Biggest of his life actually.

perhaps a showcase for him being traded?

I hope so. How many opportunities has this man received to be a top 6 d-man? Can't even light up the AHL.

We are getting Matt Cullen for Picard and a 2nd round pick. As per Bob Mckenzie on Twitter.

HOpe for a SJ 2nd round pick

Otherwise, GREAT acquisition.

Please be SJ's 2nd round pick, please!

SpezDispenser wrote:Please be SJ's 2nd round pick, please!

The more I think about it, the less it matters. By the end of the regular season, it will probably only be a difference of 4-5 spots, at most.

They can get the player they want in all honesty if the pick is 8-10 picks sooner. Ottawa probably has a good idea already who they want.

It's confirmed (Sens twitter) that it's our pick. Murray really loves Rutherford lool.
About the pick, yeah, it doesn't matter I agree, let's just hope SJ doesn't win the conference.

ON the Murray extension:
"Our team is now in a position to not only be competitive each season, but also to contend for the Stanley Cup. Bryan and his staff have worked hard to build an organization that now has the depth at the National Hockey League level and in our farm system that should allow us to be competitive for many years to come." from Melnyk.

Pretty clear now why Muckler has been replaced.

marakh wrote:It's confirmed (Sens twitter) that it's our pick. Murray really loves Rutherford lool.
About the pick, yeah, it doesn't matter I agree, let's just hope SJ doesn't win the conference.

ON the Murray extension:
"Our team is now in a position to not only be competitive each season, but also to contend for the Stanley Cup. Bryan and his staff have worked hard to build an organization that now has the depth at the National Hockey League level and in our farm system that should allow us to be competitive for many years to come." from Melnyk.

Pretty clear now why Muckler has been replaced.

Mehn, lets just hope SJ gets bounced in 4-0 in the first round

marakh wrote:It's confirmed (Sens twitter) that it's our pick. Murray really loves Rutherford lool.
About the pick, yeah, it doesn't matter I agree, let's just hope SJ doesn't win the conference.

ON the Murray extension:
"Our team is now in a position to not only be competitive each season, but also to contend for the Stanley Cup. Bryan and his staff have worked hard to build an organization that now has the depth at the National Hockey League level and in our farm system that should allow us to be competitive for many years to come." from Melnyk.

Pretty clear now why Muckler has been replaced.

When I think about MTL trading a 2nd for Dominic Moore, OTT trading its 2nd + a spare part / dead weight / accident waiting to happen looks all the better. So glad we have BM back there calling the shots.

Seriously, BM is a genius when you look at the deal Gautier made, haha.

rooneypoo wrote:When I think about MTL trading a 2nd for Dominic Moore, OTT trading its 2nd + a spare part / dead weight / accident waiting to happen looks all the better. So glad we have BM back there calling the shots.

You're referring to Picard as "spare part / dead weight / accident waiting to happen"? I thought you were pretty high on him?

rooneypoo wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Please be SJ's 2nd round pick, please!

The more I think about it, the less it matters. By the end of the regular season, it will probably only be a difference of 4-5 spots, at most.

too bad regular season has pretty much nothing to do with how playoff team draft picks are arranged

cloverleaf wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Please be SJ's 2nd round pick, please!

The more I think about it, the less it matters. By the end of the regular season, it will probably only be a difference of 4-5 spots, at most.

too bad regular season has pretty much nothing to do with how playoff team draft picks are arranged

True, but the Sharks don't exactly have a stellar playoff track record.

rooneypoo wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Please be SJ's 2nd round pick, please!

The more I think about it, the less it matters. By the end of the regular season, it will probably only be a difference of 4-5 spots, at most.

Fair enough, Diddle it, I love Murray and what he's doing. First, I didn't think he'd admit a mistake on Picard and deal him. Done. Second, I didn't think he'd do anything about Cheechoo. Done. Third, I didn't think he'd trade for an awesome D-man...........

ddt wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:When I think about MTL trading a 2nd for Dominic Moore, OTT trading its 2nd + a spare part / dead weight / accident waiting to happen looks all the better. So glad we have BM back there calling the shots.

You're referring to Picard as "spare part / dead weight / accident waiting to happen"? I thought you were pretty high on him?

Meh. Campoli surpassed him on the depth chart long ago. Alfie and Kovalev on the points / half-walls has really increased our ability to get the puck to the net on the PP (the one thing I really liked about Picard). He was nothing more than a spare part in OTT for the last 2-3 months, and (when he did get a chance to play) his defensive zone gaffes were alarming, to say the least.

You knew one of Picard or Campoli had to go before the year was out anyway.

cloverleaf wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Please be SJ's 2nd round pick, please!

The more I think about it, the less it matters. By the end of the regular season, it will probably only be a difference of 4-5 spots, at most.

too bad regular season has pretty much nothing to do with how playoff team draft picks are arranged

LOL. Sure they do. For teams who make the playoffs, draft picks are determined, first, by the playoff round they make it to / exit in, and, second, by regular season standing (in reverse order).

So, 16 teams make the playoffs; 8 get bumped in round 1; 4 in round 2; 2 in round 3; and the SC finalists gets the last 2 picks. So, if SJ finishes 1st in the league, that SJ pick will probably be the last or second last pick in whatever round they get knocked out -- in the first, pick 51/52; in the second, pick 55/56; in the third, pick 57/58; or pick 59/60.

So the highest SJ's pick is gonna be is 51, and the lowest it will be is 60. If the Sens get bumped in round one, the highest their pick will be is something like 18 or 20. If they make it to round 2, tho', that pick will be something like 22-24; and so on.

So, yes, if OTT gets booted out first round and SJ wins the cup, we will have effectively moved down the draft 10-12 spots. If you think about where this team is at right now, and SJ's playoff history, however, there's all kinds of reasons to think that that worse case scenario is pretty far off.

So, yeah... back to my original point: I'm guessing they'll be a 4-5 spot difference in terms of where the OTT pick and SJ pick are in that round -- i.e., OTT wins a round, and SJ doesn't win the cup.

so like i said and you said incorrectly,by the end of the regular season, we will have no clue how close these picks will be unless you make up a huge scenario like you did on how the you think the playoffs will unfold.

cloverleaf wrote:so like i said and you said incorrectly,by the end of the regular season, we will have no clue how close these picks will be unless you make up a huge scenario like you did on how the you think the playoffs will unfold.

Holy semantics batman! All I'm saying is that, hey, the regular season standings DO matter when it comes to determining draft pick positioning, and that I'm pretty confident that there will be a 4-5 spot difference in terms of the position of the OTT 2nd round pick and the position of the SJ 2nd round pick, for all the reasons I just went over. The very worst case scenario -- OTT gets bumped in the first round, SJ wins the cup; the OTT pick becomes 50, the SJ pick becomes 60 -- is pretty unlikely, and it's not going to be too big a deal at any rate.

Dude, look who you are arguing with or having a discussions with, haha. Why do you even bother?

N4L wrote:Dude, look who you are arguing with or having a discussions with, haha. Why do you even bother?

Where's the 'hang my head in shame' emoticon?

Ah. Close enough.

cloverleaf wrote:so like i said and you said incorrectly,by the end of the regular season, we will have no clue how close these picks will be unless you make up a huge scenario like you did on how the you think the playoffs will unfold.

You can't possibly be that much of an ignoramus

What you said is that reg season standings mean nothing.
Rooney simply explained to you how that statement is incorrect.
You come back with this ^

I am amazed you still have the priviledge, let alone the nerve to post on this site.

Ok, who's giving me -'s for this?!?