The reason I think Heatley wants out

When Heatley finally steps up to the mike, how is going to explain to people that he wants out of Ottawa to be the 'go to leader' of a team.

Because, make no mistake, that's what he wants. I would wager big money that he wants to be a real assistant captain or even straight to the C on another team. He wants to play 25 minutes, 1st line, 1st PP unit, PK - everything. When you think of his next team, he wants you to think of him.

As Iginla is synonymous with Calgary, and Alfredsson to Ottawa - Heatley wants to be synonymous with...someone else.

Why though? We'll have to wait and see what he says, but from my POV it's not just a pride thing, it's a career thing. Heatley wants to be THE MAN on his team. Which, of course, leads us to the next question: how does Dany Boyle feel about this? Joe Thornton? The current, albeit doomed, captain Patrick Marleau? Future captain materials like Ryan Clowe?

How do they all feel about this juggernaut coming to town. A guy who has one thing on his mind: lead his next team and be 'the man'? If I was there long term (again, Dany Boyle) and I heard of Heatley's desires to come to my team, I would be intrigued, but I'd also get a whiff of danger. What happens to me if I'm named captain and we acquire Heatley say...next summer? Am I safe, or do I get stripped of my captaincy by this guy?

Joe Thornton is thinking: this guy will come in and immediately get in front of me for the next job of captain. Why is that? Because of our playoff failures? What's he won?

This is the reason Heatley wants out - I'd lay good money on it. So what will become of the next team he goes to? Will we all of a sudden read an article that says: 'Dany Boyle asks for a trade', then endure months of silence?

Maybe, but at least it won't be here.

The media here has a big part in it.

I know someone who got to meet Dany and talk to him one on one for about half an hour last season.

In that time, he made no attempt to hide his extreme dislike of the media here. The way I heard it "He really really hates the media here".

I think the the ice team/Cory Clouston thing was the last straw.

It's a tough town to play in, some players love it, some don't. I wonder if he called Joe Corvo for advice.

Hoags wrote:The media here has a big part in it.

I know someone who got to meet Dany and talk to him one on one for about half an hour last season.

In that time, he made no attempt to hide his extreme dislike of the media here. The way I heard it "He really really hates the media here".

I think the the ice team/Cory Clouston thing was the last straw.

It's a tough town to play in, some players love it, some don't. I wonder if he called Joe Corvo for advice.

Probably not. We only heard about Corvo wanting out after he was gone.

There has been many articles about this fact for some time now.

notch4077 wrote:There has been many articles about this fact for some time now.

There's been articles on everything from this very thing - where Heatley said that the old guard of Phillips and Alfredsson were too powerful for anyone else to get in (he spoke of Spezza as well). There's also been articles on cheating, fallouts, media, misuse, coaches, fans, media. Everthing.

Over the course of this, I kept flip-flopping. Now I think this is the real reason. 100%.

notch4077 wrote:There has been many articles about this fact for some time now.

Have there been a lot of articles on Heatley over the last 2 months? Where have I been?

Someone in the dressing room made fun of his small peepee and he was never the same.

Pretty simple.

LOL. Side note. Boyd Devereaux once told everybody that Gretzky has the smallest peepee he has ever seen. LOL

i think it's a mixture, the media, the cut time: i think heatley wants to be a 100 points guy. i think his stats matter alot to him, and on a team like SJS i think he think he'll be able to do that. i have doubts about if he could with the NYR, but having his time cut was not good in his eyes. i think he wants to be an hall-of-famer. ithink he wants to win the cup big time which i can't blame him for and i think he saw ottawa as a pot that had boiled over and was looking pretty empty. i think we have a shot at the cup as long as BM is involved with the team but that might not be till after alfredsson is still with us. probably in spezza's time/contract with us. but then again, seing what might come back from heatley trade and the posibility of having respectable goaltending we might have once again a shot..?

SpezDispenser wrote:When Heatley finally steps up to the mike, how is going to explain to people that he wants out of Ottawa to be the 'go to leader' of a team.

Because, make no mistake, that's what he wants. I would wager big money that he wants to be a real assistant captain or even straight to the C on another team. He wants to play 25 minutes, 1st line, 1st PP unit, PK - everything. When you think of his next team, he wants you to think of him.

As Iginla is synonymous with Calgary, and Alfredsson to Ottawa - Heatley wants to be synonymous with...someone else.

Why though? We'll have to wait and see what he says, but from my POV it's not just a pride thing, it's a career thing. Heatley wants to be THE MAN on his team. Which, of course, leads us to the next question: how does Dany Boyle feel about this? Joe Thornton? The current, albeit doomed, captain Patrick Marleau? Future captain materials like Ryan Clowe?

How do they all feel about this juggernaut coming to town. A guy who has one thing on his mind: lead his next team and be 'the man'? If I was there long term (again, Dany Boyle) and I heard of Heatley's desires to come to my team, I would be intrigued, but I'd also get a whiff of danger. What happens to me if I'm named captain and we acquire Heatley say...next summer? Am I safe, or do I get stripped of my captaincy by this guy?

Joe Thornton is thinking: this guy will come in and immediately get in front of me for the next job of captain. Why is that? Because of our playoff failures? What's he won?

This is the reason Heatley wants out - I'd lay good money on it. So what will become of the next team he goes to? Will we all of a sudden read an article that says: 'Dany Boyle asks for a trade', then endure months of silence?

Maybe, but at least it won't be here.

I wouldn't hold your breath on Heatley stepping up to a mic to explain what went down. I think there are still people in Edmonton who are waiting for for an explanation from Chris Pronger.

I think Heatley will have to. They'll never let him alone.

SpezDispenser wrote:I think Heatley will have to. They'll never let him alone.

If he gets out of OTT before his 1st scheduled public appearance or the start of training camp, he might never have to explain himself to anyone. Especially if he ends up in a place that doesn't give a lot of newspaper space to hockey.

SpezDispenser wrote:I think Heatley will have to. They'll never let him alone.

if he does land in SJS he'll be far enough away that the few times the ottawa media visits he'll just blow them off... i doubt we'll ever know.

Fair enough. I'd hire a beat reporter to follow him everywhere though. Sells papers for sure.

SpezDispenser wrote:Fair enough. I'd hire a beat reporter to follow him everywhere though. Sells papers for sure.

HA! Reminds me of that guy Shooter McGavin hired to harass Happy Gilmore...

We should raise some money to hire a harasser... heh heh.

shabbs wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Fair enough. I'd hire a beat reporter to follow him everywhere though. Sells papers for sure.

HA! Reminds me of that guy Shooter McGavin hired to harass Happy Gilmore...

We should raise some money to hire a harasser... heh heh.

You eat pieces of Dung for breakfast?

SpezDispenser wrote:

shabbs wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Fair enough. I'd hire a beat reporter to follow him everywhere though. Sells papers for sure.

HA! Reminds me of that guy Shooter McGavin hired to harass Happy Gilmore...

We should raise some money to hire a harasser... heh heh.

You eat pieces of Dung for breakfast?

Awesome movie...

"Sorry Bob, the price is WRONG..."

shabbs wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Fair enough. I'd hire a beat reporter to follow him everywhere though. Sells papers for sure.

HA! Reminds me of that guy Shooter McGavin hired to harass Happy Gilmore...

We should raise some money to hire a harasser... heh heh.

It won't be long before he starts harassing you to go to Sizzler though.

I guess we'll all find out the answer to the 64K question now.

RobbyJ wrote:I guess we'll all find out the answer to the 64K question now.

I think we already know. There was no reason other than what he already has mentioned. He thought he didn't deserve his ice time cut. He thought his importance on the team was diminished. He thought the "old guard" (Alfie, Phillips) had it all and he would never get a chance to be the true leader he thinks he is.

He also said there were some 'personal issues' in some press release I read (not sure where) from today.

wprager wrote:

RobbyJ wrote:I guess we'll all find out the answer to the 64K question now.

I think we already know. There was no reason other than what he already has mentioned. He thought he didn't deserve his ice time cut. He thought his importance on the team was diminished. He thought the "old guard" (Alfie, Phillips) had it all and he would never get a chance to be the true leader he thinks he is.

They just stripped Marleau the C. If he thinks he deserves it more than Marleau, he should have went to Edmonton.

marakh wrote:

wprager wrote:

RobbyJ wrote:I guess we'll all find out the answer to the 64K question now.

I think we already know. There was no reason other than what he already has mentioned. He thought he didn't deserve his ice time cut. He thought his importance on the team was diminished. He thought the "old guard" (Alfie, Phillips) had it all and he would never get a chance to be the true leader he thinks he is.

They just stripped Marleau the C. If he thinks he deserves it more than Marleau, he should have went to Edmonton.

I don't believe this C crap... Alfie has like what... 3 years left... so heatley would have 3 years left on his deal if this were the case... and he had places like Detroit on his list ... no way this is the reason.

SpezDispenser wrote:He also said there were some 'personal issues' in some press release I read (not sure where) from today.

Yes. He took his demotion to the 2nd PP unit personally.

tough to buy that when he rejected the trade to Edmonton where in not much time he easily could be "the Man" as they have far less competition for that than San Jose has.

Let's leave wives and girlfriends out of this please guys.

SpezDispenser wrote:Let's leave wives and girlfriends out of this please guys.

Something personal was obviously a huge factor in heater wanting out of town. Its not unfathomable that someone's significant other was involved in some exhibition play with a roster player.

It would make a lot of sense quite honestly. Why Heatley ever dumped his ex is fucked up to begin with, super cool and hot as hell. Funny how things changed once he met the new chick.