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Re: rumours of the week

Post by Hoags on Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:52 pm

SpezDispenser wrote:
Hoags wrote:However Shannon is one good hit away from another concussion and trip to the IR.

Cheechoo is untradeable guys -- he has basically negative trade value.


That buyout will be the best 1 million dollar cap hit X 2 years ever spent.


You really think Melnyk will sign off on another buyout ?? Considering how many buyouts he's still paying I'm inclined to think "No".

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Re: rumours of the week

Post by SeawaySensFan on Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:56 pm

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TheAvatar wrote:Who doesn't have an aversion for Cheechoo and (especially) his contract.

I don't know about giving up Shannon for Whitney. Surely Cheechoo I would but Shannon? meh.


Yeah, I thought the same. I like Shannon and unlike Whitney, it's 700K to re-sign him.


I agree. I'd also be reluctant to swap the Deller's 13 points for Whitney's 39 right now.

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Re: rumours of the week

Post by SpezDispenser on Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:56 pm

Hoags wrote:You really think Melnyk will sign off on another buyout ?? Considering how many buyouts he's still paying I'm inclined to think "No".


I do. This team will be better when we have more money to spend on real players.

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Re: rumours of the week

Post by SpezDispenser on Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:57 pm

SeawaySensFan wrote:
I agree. I'd also be reluctant to swap the Deller's 13 points for Whitney's 39 right now.



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Re: rumours of the week

Post by SeawaySensFan on Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:08 pm

We're stuck with Cheechoo. Yes he makes a lot but he came by the same 13 points that Shannon has honestly without being a fixture on the PP as Shannon seems to have been.

Cheechoo also is 4th in hits among forwards on the team. He can be useful in that regard in the playoffs, at least.

Is Shannon the better player? I'm not even sure of that. I'm convinced he's a more attractive trade bait than Choochoo for sure.

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Post by Kovalfie on Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:16 pm

SeawaySensFan wrote:We're stuck with Cheechoo. Yes he makes a lot but he came by the same 13 points that Shannon has honestly without being a fixture on the PP as Shannon seems to have been.

Cheechoo also is 4th in hits among forwards on the team. He can be useful in that regard in the playoffs, at least.

Is Shannon the better player? I'm not even sure of that. I'm convinced he's a more attractive trade bait than Choochoo for sure.


Yes. He is the better player. Not by much but I would take Shannon on my team any day before Cheechoo. It really does come down to dollars though. I would be shocked if BM didn't buy him out this summer. $3 million is a lot to spend on 13 points

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Re: rumours of the week

Post by SpezDispenser on Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:14 pm

SeawaySensFan wrote:We're stuck with Cheechoo. Yes he makes a lot but he came by the same 13 points that Shannon has honestly without being a fixture on the PP as Shannon seems to have been.

Cheechoo also is 4th in hits among forwards on the team. He can be useful in that regard in the playoffs, at least.

Is Shannon the better player? I'm not even sure of that. I'm convinced he's a more attractive trade bait than Choochoo for sure.


Shannon can skate - like the wind, so yeah, he's instantly a better player.

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Re: rumours of the week

Post by SeawaySensFan on Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:17 pm

SpezDispenser wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:We're stuck with Cheechoo. Yes he makes a lot but he came by the same 13 points that Shannon has honestly without being a fixture on the PP as Shannon seems to have been.

Cheechoo also is 4th in hits among forwards on the team. He can be useful in that regard in the playoffs, at least.

Is Shannon the better player? I'm not even sure of that. I'm convinced he's a more attractive trade bait than Choochoo for sure.


Shannon can skate - like the wind, so yeah, he's instantly a better player.


Really? How come he only has 13 points?

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Re: rumours of the week

Post by TheAvatar on Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:32 pm

He needs to pace himself; that's all

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Re: rumours of the week

Post by PKC on Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:07 pm

marakh wrote:Just on paper, here are the D's that I think are better or equally good as Ottawa in the East:

- Atlanta
- Boston
- Florida
- Montreal
- New Jersey (arguable)
- Rangers (not sure)
- Philadelphie
- Pittsburg
- Toronto
- Washington

A lot of those players have underachieved this year though.


That's not a strong line of argument. Because they underachieved they still get the benefit of the doubt?

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Re: rumours of the week

Post by PKC on Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:09 pm

Shannon would be trade bait if he was worth anything in trade. He'd be an afterthought in a trade - someone who gets traded to create roster space. Not more, not less.

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Re: rumours of the week

Post by SpezDispenser on Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:13 pm

PKC wrote:Shannon would be trade bait if he was worth anything in trade. He'd be an afterthought in a trade - someone who gets traded to create roster space. Not more, not less.


If you're a shrewd GM and had done the research on a player like Shannon, then it would be a great piece to acquire. Shannon has the speed, the moves, the 2-way capabilities, everything to be a good part of a top 9. Not to mention that he's signed to a cheap contract and will be looking for the same contract next year I'm sure.

If I was in a position to acquire him and Campoli and a 3rd round or 4th round pick for Whitney - I'd really think about it.

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Re: rumours of the week

Post by PKC on Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:19 pm

SpezDispenser wrote:
PKC wrote:Shannon would be trade bait if he was worth anything in trade. He'd be an afterthought in a trade - someone who gets traded to create roster space. Not more, not less.


If you're a shrewd GM and had done the research on a player like Shannon, then it would be a great piece to acquire. Shannon has the speed, the moves, the 2-way capabilities, everything to be a good part of a top 9. Not to mention that he's signed to a cheap contract and will be looking for the same contract next year I'm sure.

If I was in a position to acquire him and Campoli and a 3rd round or 4th round pick for Whitney - I'd really think about it.


Perhaps, but another way to look at it is a guy who hasn't lived up to his league-minimum contract...no?

He was expected get in the neighborhood of 40 or so points and is currently on pace for about 25. Despite his speed, moves and two-way play, he just hasn't taken the bull by the horns like he needed to and has faltered this year despite being given every opportunity to skate a regular shift and play the PP.

I wonder what kind of stats Chris Kelly would have if he was playing half as much on the PP as Ryan Shannon was.

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Re: rumours of the week

Post by Flo The Action on Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:22 pm

NJ??? possible. apparently he will retire after this season.


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Re: rumours of the week

Post by SeawaySensFan on Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:25 pm

Any Brunnström rumöurs?

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Re: rumours of the week

Post by SpezDispenser on Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:27 pm

Flo The Action wrote:NJ??? possible. apparently he will retire after this season.


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Selon le Edmonton Journal, les Devils du New Jersey sont intéressés à Mike Modano.

Plusieurs rumeurs circulent à l'effet que le vétéran prendra sa retraite au terme de la saison. Les Devils voudrait aller le chercher en vue des séries éliminatoires.

Il est pratiquement certain que les Stars de Dallas l'échangeront avant la date limite des transactions.

À suivre...



I've always liked Modano, it would be great to be able to get him for a playoff run.

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Re: rumours of the week

Post by dennycrane on Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:02 pm

Modano will finish his career in Dallas. I'll try and find the link where Modano himself says this. He does hint that there's an outside chance he would accept a trade, but he thinks it unlikely.

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Post by hemlock on Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:12 pm

SeawaySensFan wrote:Any Brunnström rumöurs?


Yeah, rumour has it that he's eager to score his 2nd goal of the season. Let's see if this one takes him 29 games.

Anyone remember the hype about this guy once upon a time?

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Re: rumours of the week

Post by marakh on Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:16 pm

Well, hat trick in his first NHL game, how can you not be hyped?

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Post by hemlock on Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:22 pm

marakh wrote:Well, hat trick in his first NHL game, how can you not be hyped?


My bad.

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Re: rumours of the week

Post by Flo The Action on Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:30 pm

according to the chicago herald scotty niedermayer would be a priority to aquire.... doubt it but hey, it's rant and rave!
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Re: rumours of the week

Post by asq2 on Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:05 pm

Man, if there was one big acquisition I'd love for the Sens to make it'd be Nieds. Can you imagine how much he'd help Karlsson?

That said, the Ducks aren't exactly out of the playoff picture. They're tied with the Stars for 9th.

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Post by hemlock on Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:07 pm

asq2 wrote:Man, if there was one big acquisition I'd love for the Sens to make it'd be Nieds. Can you imagine how much he'd help Karlsson?

That said, the Ducks aren't exactly out of the playoff picture. They're tied with the Stars for 9th.


I don't think they'll be sellers this year. They are too close to justify it to the fanbase imo.

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Re: rumours of the week

Post by marakh on Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:59 pm

I think Niedermayer puts us in the Finals. Can you imagine if that PP gets going?
Although his cost probably starts with 1st, Cowen so, Thank you and GTFO.

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Post by hemlock on Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:01 am

marakh wrote:I think Niedermayer puts us in the Finals. Can you imagine if that PP gets going?
Although his cost probably starts with 1st, Cowen so, Thank you and GTFO.


The Finals? The road to the finals goes straight through Washington. I think even Nieds won't get us to the Finals. And there is no chance I want to part with either of those assets on a rental.

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Re: rumours of the week

Post by marakh on Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:10 am

Washington is not unbeatable, if we have Nieds' first pass we can brake their 1st line and make them go defensive. Plus we have Volchie and Philips.

Of course when I said Thank you and GTFO, It meant no thanks.

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Post by hemlock on Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:14 am

marakh wrote:Washington is not unbeatable, if we have Nieds' first pass we can brake their 1st line and make them go defensive. Plus we have Volchie and Philips.

Of course when I said Thank you and GTFO, It meant no thanks.


Yes, I am familiar with GTFO.

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Re: rumours of the week

Post by Flo The Action on Sat Jun 19, 2010 10:25 am

this from EK and holds no ground what so ever. though i find the deal interesting as it would bring us back some interesting pieces.
i'm on the fence on if i'd be happy with this deal i'm not a fan of jumbo and he's only got a year left.
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Apparently the Sharks may have interest in reuniting (cause is feels so good) Spezza with Heatley. The Rumored deal may be Joe Thornton, Setaguchi and a prospect for Spezza, Brian Elliott and the rights to Volchenkov (which the Sharks would then move elsewhere).

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Post by SpezDispenser on Sat Jun 19, 2010 10:32 am

Isn't it Setoguchi?

How could you say no to that deal. Thornton, Setoguchi and a prospect for Spezza and Elliott? Hmmm....okay?

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Post by sens4win on Sat Jun 19, 2010 11:36 am

I think that if we move Elliot, we might want to look into picking up price.... thoughts ?

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Post by Flo The Action on Sat Jun 19, 2010 11:43 am

sens4win wrote:I think that if we move Elliot, we might want to look into picking up price.... thoughts ?

joke right?

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Post by sens4win on Sat Jun 19, 2010 12:01 pm

Flo The Action wrote:
sens4win wrote:I think that if we move Elliot, we might want to look into picking up price.... thoughts ?

joke right?
i don't want him, i just want to see what everyone would think,

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Post by wprager on Sat Jun 19, 2010 12:13 pm

SpezDispenser wrote:Isn't it Setoguchi?

How could you say no to that deal. Thornton, Setoguchi and a prospect for Spezza and Elliott? Hmmm....okay?


The only way the Sharks make that deal is if it *is* "Setaguchi" -- some minor league prospect with no hope of making the NHL.

This is Ek, why are we even wasting finger-taps discussing it?

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Post by wprager on Sat Jun 19, 2010 12:15 pm

sens4win wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
sens4win wrote:I think that if we move Elliot, we might want to look into picking up price.... thoughts ?

joke right?
i don't want him, i just want to see what everyone would think,


I think Montreal moving Halak means exactly what it looks like on the surface: that they are anointing Price as their #1. So any rumor about them moving Price after having moved Halak, that do not involve Martin Brodeur and a time machine can be ignored.

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Re: rumours of the week

Post by SeawaySensFan on Sat Jun 19, 2010 4:02 pm

Bob McKenzie:

Things likely to go down: Nathan Horton and others
in Fla.; much in CHI; more moves in NASH; perhaps Spezza; more in PHI;
Kaberle. Busy busy

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Post by Dash on Sat Jun 19, 2010 4:10 pm

SeawaySensFan wrote:Bob McKenzie:

Things likely to go down: Nathan Horton and others
in Fla.; much in CHI; more moves in NASH; perhaps Spezza; more in PHI;
Kaberle. Busy busy


whoops, sorry. posted the same thing in the draft trades thread.

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Post by SeawaySensFan on Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:55 pm

OK, so if I didn't hear it earlier Dallas Dave is saying it now:

#Devils and #Lightning are front runners for Kaberle as far as I can tell, seems to change by the day. #Flyers shopping Hartnell

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Post by SpezDispenser on Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:01 pm

sens4win wrote:I think that if we move Elliot, we might want to look into picking up price.... thoughts ?


No thanks.

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Post by Flo The Action on Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:34 pm

SeawaySensFan wrote:OK, so if I didn't hear it earlier Dallas Dave is saying it now:

#Devils and #Lightning are front runners for Kaberle as far as I can tell, seems to change by the day. #Flyers shopping Hartnell

i'd like some hartnell personally would they care for some foligno or lee? Sarcasm

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Re: rumours of the week

Post by asq2 on Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:38 pm

Flo The Action wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:OK, so if I didn't hear it earlier Dallas Dave is saying it now:

#Devils and #Lightning are front runners for Kaberle as far as I can tell, seems to change by the day. #Flyers shopping Hartnell

i'd like some hartnell personally would they care for some foligno or lee? Sarcasm


Blegh, no. There are better uses of our cap-space and assets.

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