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Lundi, 21 Décembre 2009
Par HOCKEY30.com



Comme à chaque semaine, le Ottawa Sun résume les dernières rumeurs dans la LNH.
- Vincent Lecavalier aurait piqué une grosse colère lorsqu'il a appris qu'Alex Tanguay était laissé de côté par l'entraîneur-chef Rick Tocchet. Les deux québécois pourraient être échangés dans la même transaction selon ce qu'on raconte à Tampa Bay.
- Vu la lenteur des négociations entre les Thrashers d'Atlanta et Ilya Kovalchuk, plusieurs équipes ont contacté le directeur général Don Waddell pour lui démontrer leur intérêt envers le joueur vedette. Kovalchuk demanderait un salaire de 10 ans équivalent à plus de 11 millions de dollars par année. Les Devils du New Jersey, l'Avalanche du Colorado, les Rangers de New York, les Bruins de Boston, les Kings de Los Angeles et les Capitals de Washington seraient les formations intéressées à l'attaquant russe.
- Jeff Carter serait sur le marché des échanges. Le directeur général des Flyers de Philadlephie, Paul Holmgren, aurait avoué à des proches que son attaquant pourrait être transigé s'il obtient ce qu'il veut en retour. Par ailleurs, Holmgren a démenti les dires de Bob Gainey, à savoir que Jaroslav Halak avait été proposé aux Flyers. Pourtant, plusieurs sources fiables nous disent que le gardien Slovaque a bel et bien été offert à Philadelphie. Qui dit vrai?
- Les Ducks d'Anaheim pourraient être tentés d'échanger Teemu Selanne avant la date limite des transaction (3 mars 2010). Le Finlandais s'est blessé à la main et sera absent jusqu'au moins de janvier. Le directeur général des Ducks, Bob Murray, aurait déjà fait une croix sur les séries éliminatoires et voudrait en profiter pour alléger sa masse salariale. Murray a une nouvelle philosophie: Il veut faire de la place aux jeunes et se départir de plusieurs vétérans. Selanne a déjà 14 buts à sa fiche et pourrait représenter une très bonne acquisition pour une équipe qui aspire aux grands honneurs. L'attaquant Joffrey Lupul serait aussi sur le marché des échanges.
- Le président des Blues, John Davidson, a démenti les rumeurs qui racontaient que les Blues étaient intéressés à l'attaquant des Hurricanes, Eric Staal. Malgré sa saison atroce, le directeur général des Canes, Jim Rutherford, ne veut pas se départir de son attaquant. "Il est notre joueur de concession. Il faut être patient avec ces joueurs de talent" a affirmé Rutherford.
- Le directeur général des Oilers, Steve Tambellini, veut absolument procéder à un échange. Il est toutefois mal pris car les joueurs qu'il désire échanger ont tous de lourds contrats: Shawn Horcoff (7 M$ en 2009-2010, 6.5 M$ en 2010-2011, 6.5 M$ en 2011-2012, 6 M$ en 2012-2013, 4 M$ en 2013-2014), Sheldon Souray (5.5 M$ en 2009-2010, 4.5 M$ en 2010-2011, 4.5 M$ en 2011-2012) et Lubomir Visnovsky (7 M$ en 2009-2010, 6 M$ en 2010-2011, 5 M$ en 2011-2012, 3 M$ en 2012-2013) ont tous été surévalués. Ces salaires sont insensés par rapport à la valeur de ces joueurs sur la glace...

SpezDispenser wrote:The Hockey News wants us to believe that this would be the move to make:

[url=http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/30186-THNcom-Blog-Phaneuf-for-Spezza-a-dream-deal-for-Senators-and-Flames.html

SeawaySensFan wrote:"Pain and Shame" Phaneuf is no longer the same player. I'd sooner take Sarich, Jokinen and probably a top prospect.

Iginla is 32?!??!!

SpezDispenser wrote:The Hockey News wants us to believe that this would be the move to make:

[url=http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/30186-THNcom-Blog-Phaneuf-for-Spezza-a-dream-deal-for-Senators-and-Flames.html

SpezDispenser wrote:The Hockey News wants us to believe that this would be the move to make:

http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/30186-THNcom-Blog-Phaneuf-for-Spezza-a-dream-deal-for-Senators-and-Flames.html[/quote]

He brings up valid points. It's not like we'd miss his offence, and Phaneuf on the back end would make us a force to be reckoned with

beedub wrote:ttp://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/30186-THNcom-Blog-Phaneuf-for-Spezza-a-dream-deal-for-Senators-and-Flames.html[/quote[/url]]

He brings up valid points. It's not like we'd miss his offence, and Phaneuf on the back end would make us a force to be reckoned with

SpezDispenser wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:"Pain and Shame" Phaneuf is no longer the same player. I'd sooner take Sarich, Jokinen and probably a top prospect.

Iginla is 32?!??!!

Really? I'd take Phaneuf, but not at the expense of Spezza - yet.

Dash wrote:Bruins, Caps, Rangers... three teams that have no cap space and one team that is always in on the trade rumors and has no cap space.

Flo The Action wrote:

Dash wrote:Bruins, Caps, Rangers... three teams that have no cap space and one team that is always in on the trade rumors and has no cap space.

i'm sure the rangers will offer-up redden and kotalik for him

Dash wrote:If Kovalchuk is moved, I'm putting my money on LA. They got the cap room, they got the assets. Two huge factors. Not only can they trade for him, but they could keep him.

Let's start with a 1st, Frolov and... Voinov or Loktionov?

Jagr de retour?


Lundi, 21 Décembre 2009
Par HOCKEY30.com


Selon le Edmonton Journal, Jaromir Jagr reviendrait dans la LNH afin de jouer avec les Oilers.
Le quotidien affirme que Jagr considère de quitter la KHL pour l'Amérique du Nord au terme de son contrat avec l'Avangard de Omsk. Le Tchèque aura 38 ans en février et sera âgé de 40 ans lorsque son contrat finira dans la KHL.
"Il pourrait même quitter la LNH avant la fin de son contrat. De toute façon, même à 40 ans, Jagr sera encore l'un des meilleurs joueurs de la planète." nous a indiqué une source travaillant pour l'organisation des Oilers.
Jagr avait affirmé au printemps dernier que s'il revenait dans la LNH, ce serait avec les Oilers d'Edmonton.
"Je n'oublierai jamais l'intérêt qu'ils ont eu pour moi avant que je ne quitte pour la KHL. Même depuis que je suis en Russie, ils n'ont jamais arrêté de me montrer qu'ils tenaient à moi et qu'ils seraient privilégiés de me voir joindre leur équipe. Les Oilers sont une organisation avec une grande classe" avait déclaré Jagr.
À suivre...

SeawaySensFan wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:"Pain and Shame" Phaneuf is no longer the same player. I'd sooner take Sarich, Jokinen and probably a top prospect.

Iginla is 32?!??!!

Really? I'd take Phaneuf, but not at the expense of Spezza - yet.

I would take the players I mentioned for Spezza over Phaneuf right now.

Flo The Action wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:The Hockey News wants us to believe that this would be the move to make:

[url=http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/30186-THNcom-Blog-Phaneuf-for-Spezza-a-dream-deal-for-Senators-and-Flames.html

http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/30186-THNcom-Blog-Phaneuf-for-Spezza-a-dream-deal-for-Senators-and-Flames.html[/quote[/url]]

yeah i read that this moring... interesting. i'm sure quite a few people on here would jump at the chance to pull it but personally that would leave us a very empty space at center. i truly believe Spezza has been playing with back problems and that is part of the reason his play has been te way it is.
you can pretty much pin-point the moment he started to play of to when he came back ina hurry from the back injury earlyer this season. before that he was a new man... (bring on the hate.)


as for phaneuf, it sounds like he's quite the handfull in the locker-room. i'd take him but not for spezza. we have some nice prospects on D that will one day soon be elite(hopefully) but we are weak up front in prospect. i don't think it's the time to deal spezza.

SpezDispenser wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:"Pain and Shame" Phaneuf is no longer the same player. I'd sooner take Sarich, Jokinen and probably a top prospect.

Iginla is 32?!??!!

Really? I'd take Phaneuf, but not at the expense of Spezza - yet.

I would take the players I mentioned for Spezza over Phaneuf right now.

Jokinen is one of the biggest arses in the league though. Invariably every time he's traded (which says a lot right there) there seems to be a trail of discontent. Sariach is good for sure, very solid, but we need more of an all-round D-man for that kind of money.

I wouldn't make that trade. I probably wouldn't make either trade, but if I did, it would be for Phaneuf so he could cruise our blue line with one of Karlsson, Cowen or Wiercioch - or even A-Train or Phillips.

Actually, holy Dung, that's a pretty crazy addition to our future blueline.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:"Pain and Shame" Phaneuf is no longer the same player. I'd sooner take Sarich, Jokinen and probably a top prospect.

Iginla is 32?!??!!

Really? I'd take Phaneuf, but not at the expense of Spezza - yet.

I would take the players I mentioned for Spezza over Phaneuf right now.

Jokinen is one of the biggest arses in the league though. Invariably every time he's traded (which says a lot right there) there seems to be a trail of discontent. Sariach is good for sure, very solid, but we need more of an all-round D-man for that kind of money.

I wouldn't make that trade. I probably wouldn't make either trade, but if I did, it would be for Phaneuf so he could cruise our blue line with one of Karlsson, Cowen or Wiercioch - or even A-Train or Phillips.

Actually, holy Dung, that's a pretty crazy addition to our future blueline.

I know. Nobody seems to like Jokinen for whatever reason. I was just trying to find a good player in what is not a great lineup. Phaneuf makes a lot of money and his numbers are declining. Calgary really doesn't have anything enticing.

Dash wrote:If Kovalchuk is moved, I'm putting my money on LA. They got the cap room, they got the assets. Two huge factors. Not only can they trade for him, but they could keep him.

Let's start with a 1st, Frolov and... Voinov or Loktionov?

Dash wrote:Redden?

SeawaySensFan wrote:
I know. Nobody seems to like Jokinen for whatever reason. I was just trying to find a good player in what is not a great lineup. Phaneuf makes a lot of money and his numbers are declining. Calgary really doesn't have anything enticing.

RobbyJ wrote:Don't discount the caps making a move for Kovy. The Caps could offer up Semin who the Thrashers could keep as an RFA. I would rather pay Kovy 8-9M than the 7M Semin is going to want.

SpezDispenser wrote:

Dash wrote:If Kovalchuk is moved, I'm putting my money on LA. They got the cap room, they got the assets. Two huge factors. Not only can they trade for him, but they could keep him.

Let's start with a 1st, Frolov and... Voinov or Loktionov?

Teubert or Hickey have to be a part of that deal - and the Kings are notorious (and rightfully so) to not give up prospects or young players. Now wouldn't be the time to start IMO.

SpezDispenser wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:
I know. Nobody seems to like Jokinen for whatever reason. I was just trying to find a good player in what is not a great lineup. Phaneuf makes a lot of money and his numbers are declining. Calgary really doesn't have anything enticing.

J-Bo?

Dash wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:
I know. Nobody seems to like Jokinen for whatever reason. I was just trying to find a good player in what is not a great lineup. Phaneuf makes a lot of money and his numbers are declining. Calgary really doesn't have anything enticing.

J-Bo?

Gotta say he has not been too impressive this year. He's got the same numbers as Picard, who has played 5 less games.

Dash wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

Dash wrote:If Kovalchuk is moved, I'm putting my money on LA. They got the cap room, they got the assets. Two huge factors. Not only can they trade for him, but they could keep him.

Let's start with a 1st, Frolov and... Voinov or Loktionov?

Teubert or Hickey have to be a part of that deal - and the Kings are notorious (and rightfully so) to not give up prospects or young players. Now wouldn't be the time to start IMO.

Really? Not even for Kovalchuk re-signed? He's proven and he's young. LA would be the perfect team for him. It's not a lot to give up for LA. They have a lot of prospects. I wouldn't suggest giving up Teubert, Hickey or Schenn, but the Russian prospects are quite good, nothing to sneeze at.

Any of those guys listed are better than Angelo Esposito.

SpezDispenser wrote:

RobbyJ wrote:Don't discount the caps making a move for Kovy. The Caps could offer up Semin who the Thrashers could keep as an RFA. I would rather pay Kovy 8-9M than the 7M Semin is going to want.

7 million dollar for Semin? Hmmm....I would hope he sees the light and signs a 5.75 ish contract and stays with the Caps, but if he wants 7 million...bu bye.

SpezDispenser wrote:

RobbyJ wrote:Don't discount the caps making a move for Kovy. The Caps could offer up Semin who the Thrashers could keep as an RFA. I would rather pay Kovy 8-9M than the 7M Semin is going to want.

7 million dollar for Semin? Hmmm....I would hope he sees the light and signs a 5.75 ish contract and stays with the Caps, but if he wants 7 million...bu bye.

Dash wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:
I know. Nobody seems to like Jokinen for whatever reason. I was just trying to find a good player in what is not a great lineup. Phaneuf makes a lot of money and his numbers are declining. Calgary really doesn't have anything enticing.

J-Bo?

Gotta say he has not been too impressive this year. He's got the same numbers as Picard, who has played 5 less games.

SpezDispenser wrote:

Dash wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

Dash wrote:If Kovalchuk is moved, I'm putting my money on LA. They got the cap room, they got the assets. Two huge factors. Not only can they trade for him, but they could keep him.

Let's start with a 1st, Frolov and... Voinov or Loktionov?

Teubert or Hickey have to be a part of that deal - and the Kings are notorious (and rightfully so) to not give up prospects or young players. Now wouldn't be the time to start IMO.

Really? Not even for Kovalchuk re-signed? He's proven and he's young. LA would be the perfect team for him. It's not a lot to give up for LA. They have a lot of prospects. I wouldn't suggest giving up Teubert, Hickey or Schenn, but the Russian prospects are quite good, nothing to sneeze at.

Any of those guys listed are better than Angelo Esposito.

Once bitten twice shy though. Waddell cannot afford to Diddle this one up like he did with the Hossa deal. I realize hindsight is 20/20, but boy did he get the short end of the talent stick with Hossa (Armstrong is okay, Christiensen is gone, Esposito is busting and injured). Plus, no offense to Hossa, but Kovalchuk is 10 times better. So a 1st rounder, a top 6 player right now and a blue chip - or some semblance of that.

SpezDispenser wrote:

Yeah, he's been less than stellar. BUT, he's got the best skating of all young D-men and adds a crazy element of speed and skill.

Dash wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

Dash wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

Dash wrote:If Kovalchuk is moved, I'm putting my money on LA. They got the cap room, they got the assets. Two huge factors. Not only can they trade for him, but they could keep him.

Let's start with a 1st, Frolov and... Voinov or Loktionov?

Teubert or Hickey have to be a part of that deal - and the Kings are notorious (and rightfully so) to not give up prospects or young players. Now wouldn't be the time to start IMO.

Really? Not even for Kovalchuk re-signed? He's proven and he's young. LA would be the perfect team for him. It's not a lot to give up for LA. They have a lot of prospects. I wouldn't suggest giving up Teubert, Hickey or Schenn, but the Russian prospects are quite good, nothing to sneeze at.

Any of those guys listed are better than Angelo Esposito.

Once bitten twice shy though. Waddell cannot afford to Diddle this one up like he did with the Hossa deal. I realize hindsight is 20/20, but boy did he get the short end of the talent stick with Hossa (Armstrong is okay, Christiensen is gone, Esposito is busting and injured). Plus, no offense to Hossa, but Kovalchuk is 10 times better. So a 1st rounder, a top 6 player right now and a blue chip - or some semblance of that.

Frolov = top 6 fwd, Voynov (7.5 C rating from Hockeysfuture).

More than what a lot of teams could offer, plus I don't think Semin will be traded.