Re: The Needle and the Damage Done: Misconceptions about GMHockey

by **SpezDispenser** on Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:54 pm

asq2 wrote:I'm pretty sure he also had one involving Bouwmeester, though.

By the way, I get no love in the OP? When I joined the 'Buzz, the regulars were me, you, Prags, jamvan and mob_slapman. :gg:

As gay* as it sounds, I thought of you and a few others at the last second, but hit send instead of going back up and adding you.

I knew it was a bad idea the minute I typed the first name. Ahhhhh!

*For anyone easily offended, by gay, I mean 'happy'.

by **Snuh** on Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:55 pm

Zoolander wrote:
Snuh wrote:Sorry, what happened? Neil Young is posting bogus hockey rumors???

There was a thing...with the guy. It's over now. Mind your business. Thanks.

Btw, how be you?

I be good. Hope the guy is OK. Off to mind my business elsewhere.

by **hemlock** on Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:55 pm

SpezDispenser wrote:
asq2 wrote:I'm pretty sure he also had one involving Bouwmeester, though.

By the way, I get no love in the OP? When I joined the 'Buzz, the regulars were me, you, Prags, jamvan and mob_slapman. :gg:

As gay as it sounds, I thought of you and a few others at the last second, but hit send instead of going back up and adding you.

I knew it was a bad idea the minute I typed the first name.

who is mob_slapman? Before my time I guess....

by **hemlock** on Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:57 pm

Snuh wrote:
Zoolander wrote:
Snuh wrote:Sorry, what happened? Neil Young is posting bogus hockey rumors???

There was a thing...with the guy. It's over now. Mind your business. Thanks.

Btw, how be you?

I be good. Hope the guy is OK. Off to mind my business elsewhere.

Hah. I was just teasing.

I'll give you the Cliff's Notes:

SpezDispenser heard a rumour, posted it here, we all went Dung...turned out to be false. Calamity ensued.

by **Snuh** on Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:03 am

Thanks for the play-by-play.

by **hemlock** on Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:12 am

Snuh wrote:Thanks for the play-by-play.

Not much of a play-by-play, but that's the jist of it.

by asq2 on Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:15 am

Zoolander wrote:
Snuh wrote:Thanks for the play-by-play.

Not much of a play-by-play, but that's the jist of it.

Well, it's pretty much all that needs to be said. The only accurate play-by-play would be reading through the actual thread, but I'd suggest just letting it die.

Nothing to see here folks. Cheers

by **Snuh** on Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:24 am

Play-by-play, Cliff Notes, Coles Notes, whatever. I was updated, and I am greatfull.

by **Cap'n Clutch** on Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:49 am

notch4077 wrote:And that's all I was saying. I come hear for the latest, up to date and factual info.

When you posted that story, we and I all believed you because it was coming from you.

When it turned out to be bogus, you were pissed because you jumped the gun and gave us nothing more than Eklund quality material.

I called you out because I don't want this site to routinely have 8 page threads turn out to be like Eklund's site.

Take it as a compliment that someone who comes here every day for the latest factual Sens news called you out because of an admitted mistake on your part.

My post count should have nothing to do with this. I read every single post because I care what is going on. I am not connected to the Sens, I am just a die-hard fan. You guys are so good on here that by the time I read everything, there is nothing else for me to say because the great posters on here have covered every basis.

Excellent point. I'm sure there are many more like you that come here daily and aren't even registered.

by **Cap'n Clutch** on Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:07 am

Since the other Founders have chimed in on this incident I will throw my thoughts in here as well.

1st - It was an error and SpezD has owned up to it. He started a thread on it for cryin' out loud. I think that says a lot right there. We have 4 pages of discussion on it already.

2nd - The title was changed as soon as it was clear the rumour was bogus.

3rd - We are Co Founders. Equal partners and thus share in this error but we don't consult each other on everything we do here. I stand behind SpezD and Cronie and I wouldn't change a thing about the group other than trying to get a lost Founder back in the fold again.

by shabbs on Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:10 am

SpezDispenser wrote:Oh Dung man, I just thought it was a cool name for the thread.

It is indeed named after the Neil Young song, but only because it's a neat name really.

And here I thought you were being all "deep" and what not... oh well.

Heh heh.

by **SensFan71** on Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:28 am

Cap'n Clutch wrote:Since the other Founders have chimed in on this incident I will throw my thoughts in here as well.

1st - It was an error and SpezD has owned up to it. He started a thread on it for cryin' out loud. I think that says a lot right there. We have 4 pages of discussion on it already.

2nd - The title was changed as soon as it was clear the rumour was bogus.

3rd - We are Co Founders. Equal partners and thus share in this error but we don't consult each other on everything we do here. I stand behind SpezD and Cronie and I wouldn't change a thing about the group other than trying to get a lost Founder back in the fold again.

agreed, here here, SpezD did own up to it instead of like an Ek move and say its part of something bigger or Dominoes caused the trade to fall apart, speaks for his integrity in a big way, so am hoping this is not even considered a black mark on this site, on the person, or anything, it was a mistake, it was owned up to, we shall move on and publicy flog the moron from HF that posted it to begin with, who's with me?

by **SeawaySensFan** on Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:55 am

I really don't see what the big deal is anyhow. Dung happens. If anyone feels somehow cheated or duped, they have way too much invested in what is really a diversion.

A good way to avoid disappointment is to take "dominoes" with a healthy dose of skepticism and just wait and see. However, you will find that "swirlings" always pay off.

by **SensFan71** on Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:01 am

SeawaySensFan wrote:I really don't see what the big deal is anyhow. Dung happens. If anyone feels somehow cheated or duped, they have way too much invested in what is really a diversion.

A good way to avoid disappointment is to take "dominoes" with a healthy dose of skepticism and just wait and see. However, you will find that "swirlings" always pay off.

good analysis SSF, those swirlings will pay off for us, you wait and see come June 26.

by shabbs on Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:33 am

I demand a refund of my Season Ticket Holder money!!!!!

Oh wait... wrong site.

Never mind...

by **SensFan71** on Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:44 am

shabbs wrote:I demand a refund of my Season Ticket Holder money!!!!!

Oh wait... wrong site.

Never mind...

that $20 is non refundable, read the fine print, noted below:

No money will be refunded due to acts of idiocy of the bloggers, mainly Ek.

by **Cap'n Clutch** on Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:20 am

It's all about creating synergies. That one's for all you Federal Government employees. Smile

by **SpezDispenser** on Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:56 am

:^^^^: We're still talking about this.

I appreciate the kind words guys, but this isn't exactly Watergate here.

To be honest, my biggest regret is not getting back to the thread on HF in time to plug this site. cool)

by shabbs on Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:09 am

SensFan71 wrote:
shabbs wrote:I demand a refund of my Season Ticket Holder money!!!!!

Oh wait... wrong site.

Never mind...

that $20 is non refundable, read the fine print, noted below:

No money will be refunded due to acts of idiocy of the bloggers, mainly Ek.

Good thing I never wasted any money on that...

Heh heh.

by smash88 on Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:32 am

Cap'n Clutch wrote:It's all about creating synergies. That one's for all you Federal Government employees.

Haha... Atleast those of us that not have it blocked! Damn you PWGSC!!

Well at least I have today off, thanks to those darn qwebeckers! LOL :####:

by **SpezDispenser** on Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:42 am

:GHF: :drinking: :pale: Puking2

Repeat.

by **SensFan71** on Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:02 pm

SpezDispenser wrote: :GHF: :drinking: :pale:

Repeat.

may I do that process without the Puking2

I see enough of that with the morning sickness my wife is going through now, poor woman.

by **Cap'n Clutch** on Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:05 pm

Diclectin is the answer. I'm sure I misspelled it. It's an anti-nausea medication for morning sickness and it's in THE safest category of drug period. It's safer than Tylenol which is also absolutely safe for pregnant women to take for pain relief.

by **SensFan71** on Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:06 pm

Cap'n Clutch wrote:Diclectin is the answer. I'm sure I misspelled it. It's an anti-nausea medication for morning sickness and it's in THE safest category of drug period. It's safer than Tylenol which is also absolutely safe for pregnant women to take for pain relief.

If this keeps going, I am going to have to get that for her, if she can control the heart burn, then she is fine, but the heart burn lately has been getting out of control, leading to the nausea.

by **Cap'n Clutch** on Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:15 pm

SensFan71 wrote:
Cap'n Clutch wrote:Diclectin is the answer. I'm sure I misspelled it. It's an anti-nausea medication for morning sickness and it's in THE safest category of drug period. It's safer than Tylenol which is also absolutely safe for pregnant women to take for pain relief.

If this keeps going, I am going to have to get that for her, if she can control the heart burn, then she is fine, but the heart burn lately has been getting out of control, leading to the nausea.

Diclectin would have to be prescribed but if it really is all about the heartburn the other thing my Wife was taking for that was Zantac. It works well for that. It was recommended by her Obstetrician.

by **SensFan71** on Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:19 pm

Cap'n Clutch wrote:
SensFan71 wrote:
Cap'n Clutch wrote:Diclectin is the answer. I'm sure I misspelled it. It's an anti-nausea medication for morning sickness and it's in THE safest category of drug period. It's safer than Tylenol which is also absolutely safe for pregnant women to take for pain relief.

If this keeps going, I am going to have to get that for her, if she can control the heart burn, then she is fine, but the heart burn lately has been getting out of control, leading to the nausea.

Diclectin would have to be prescribed but if it really is all about the heartburn the other thing my Wife was taking for that was Zantac. It works well for that. It was recommended by her Obstetrician.

I will mention to her about Zantac, right now she is religiously popping Rolaids, which are only temp relief.

by **Cap'n Clutch** on Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:22 pm

SensFan71 wrote:
Cap'n Clutch wrote:
SensFan71 wrote:
Cap'n Clutch wrote:Diclectin is the answer. I'm sure I misspelled it. It's an anti-nausea medication for morning sickness and it's in THE safest category of drug period. It's safer than Tylenol which is also absolutely safe for pregnant women to take for pain relief.

If this keeps going, I am going to have to get that for her, if she can control the heart burn, then she is fine, but the heart burn lately has been getting out of control, leading to the nausea.

Diclectin would have to be prescribed but if it really is all about the heartburn the other thing my Wife was taking for that was Zantac. It works well for that. It was recommended by her Obstetrician.

I will mention to her about Zantac, right now she is religiously popping Rolaids, which are only temp relief.

Definitely recommend Zantac. She doesn't have to take it constantly either. I think my Wife took it once or twice a day. Make sure you talk to the pharmacist about getting a strong enough dose for her. I'm not sure how it works because my Wife got a prescription version of the stuff but the pharmacist said it was the same as the over the counter stuff.

by **SensFan71** on Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:35 pm

Cap'n Clutch wrote:
SensFan71 wrote:
Cap'n Clutch wrote:
SensFan71 wrote:
Cap'n Clutch wrote:Diclectin is the answer. I'm sure I misspelled it. It's an anti-nausea medication for morning sickness and it's in THE safest category of drug period. It's safer than Tylenol which is also absolutely safe for pregnant women to take for pain relief.

If this keeps going, I am going to have to get that for her, if she can control the heart burn, then she is fine, but the heart burn lately has been getting out of control, leading to the nausea.

Diclectin would have to be prescribed but if it really is all about the heartburn the other thing my Wife was taking for that was Zantac. It works well for that. It was recommended by her Obstetrician.

I will mention to her about Zantac, right now she is religiously popping Rolaids, which are only temp relief.

Definitely recommend Zantac. She doesn't have to take it constantly either. I think my Wife took it once or twice a day. Make sure you talk to the pharmacist about getting a strong enough dose for her. I'm not sure how it works because my Wife got a prescription version of the stuff but the pharmacist said it was the same as the over the counter stuff.

sweet, thanks for the advice, I will be seeing about that tonight for her, anything to get her a bit of relief, only 6 weeks to and counting, whoo hoo.

by shabbs on Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:46 pm

SensFan71 wrote:
Cap'n Clutch wrote:
SensFan71 wrote:
Cap'n Clutch wrote:Diclectin is the answer. I'm sure I misspelled it. It's an anti-nausea medication for morning sickness and it's in THE safest category of drug period. It's safer than Tylenol which is also absolutely safe for pregnant women to take for pain relief.

If this keeps going, I am going to have to get that for her, if she can control the heart burn, then she is fine, but the heart burn lately has been getting out of control, leading to the nausea.

Diclectin would have to be prescribed but if it really is all about the heartburn the other thing my Wife was taking for that was Zantac. It works well for that. It was recommended by her Obstetrician.

I will mention to her about Zantac, right now she is religiously popping Rolaids, which are only temp relief.

Did your wife's OB recommend Rolaids? Usually Tums is recommended because it contains Calcium. Rolaids contains Aluminum.

Before taking any advice from us (even ones who've had kids) run it by your OB as everyone is different and there may be certain things your wife's OB wants her to avoid for whatever reason that we would not know about.

My wife was on Diclectin for her first trimester and once she was through that she was fine. But, a friend of ours needed Diclectin throughout her whole pregnancy. Everyone is different and we are not Medical Doctor's here.

Please, run anything by your wife's OB first.

by **SensFan71** on Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:51 pm

shabbs wrote:
SensFan71 wrote:
Cap'n Clutch wrote:
SensFan71 wrote:
Cap'n Clutch wrote:Diclectin is the answer. I'm sure I misspelled it. It's an anti-nausea medication for morning sickness and it's in THE safest category of drug period. It's safer than Tylenol which is also absolutely safe for pregnant women to take for pain relief.

If this keeps going, I am going to have to get that for her, if she can control the heart burn, then she is fine, but the heart burn lately has been getting out of control, leading to the nausea.

Diclectin would have to be prescribed but if it really is all about the heartburn the other thing my Wife was taking for that was Zantac. It works well for that. It was recommended by her Obstetrician.

I will mention to her about Zantac, right now she is religiously popping Rolaids, which are only temp relief.

Did your wife's OB recommend Rolaids? Usually Tums is recommended because it contains Calcium. Rolaids contains Aluminum.

Before taking any advice from us (even ones who've had kids) run it by your OB as everyone is different and there may be certain things your wife's OB wants her to avoid for whatever reason that we would not know about.

My wife was on Diclectin for her first trimester and once she was through that she was fine. But, a friend of ours needed Diclectin throughout her whole pregnancy. Everyone is different and we are not Medical Doctor's here.

Please, run anything by your wife's OB first.

she has the blessing of her OB for rolaids, he prefers of course it be tums as well due to the calcium content, but the tums don't work for her anymore, therefore rolaids.

by shabbs on Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:00 pm

Hopefully she can find some relief... hang in there.

by **SensFan71** on Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:04 pm

shabbs wrote:Hopefully she can find some relief... hang in there.

she's a fighter, she's hanging in as good as can be Smile

by **Cap'n Clutch** on Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:10 pm

Of course depending on your Wife's specific situation there might be concerns with certain drugs and it's always best to consult the OB first but I'd be surprised if he/she said don't take Zantac.

As for Diclectin my Wife had to take it the entire pregnancy. It helped with Nausea throughout the day but it didn't prevent her from vomitting once each morning about 5 or 6 days a week.

Don't get me wrong it was still a huge help since before that she'd wake up from a dead sleep throughout the night 2 to 3 times to barf and felt severe nausea all day.

by **wprager** on Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:17 pm

If it's heartburn that's leading to the nausea then how about changing the diet? Also, if her back/neck can take it, sleep on 2-3 pillows to minimize the chance of acid reflux. And extra pillow under the knees (sleeping on her back) would help with the back.

by **SensFan71** on Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:27 pm

wprager wrote:If it's heartburn that's leading to the nausea then how about changing the diet? Also, if her back/neck can take it, sleep on 2-3 pillows to minimize the chance of acid reflux. And extra pillow under the knees (sleeping on her back) would help with the back.

I wish it was that simple, we haven't been able to pinpoint anything that is triggering the heartburn, she doesn't even drink diet pepsi anymore, she is onto water and water only. definitely good thoughts about the pillows though, I have plenty of pillows.

by **Cap'n Clutch** on Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:28 pm

wprager wrote:If it's heartburn that's leading to the nausea then how about changing the diet? Also, if her back/neck can take it, sleep on 2-3 pillows to minimize the chance of acid reflux. And extra pillow under the knees (sleeping on her back) would help with the back.

Sleeping on the back is a no no for a pregnant woman with 6 weeks left. It could cut off the main blood supply to the baby.

As far as I was told, heartburn is part of being pregnant. It's a physical issue with organs being pushed around. The reason things like Rolaids, Tums and Zantac work is it changes the acidity of the stomach so when the stomach fluid inevitably splashes up it doesn't burn.

I suppose diet could help in that department but If the acid reflux is as bad as it seems then I can't see diet being the only solution.

by **SensFan71** on Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:29 pm

Cap'n Clutch wrote:
wprager wrote:If it's heartburn that's leading to the nausea then how about changing the diet? Also, if her back/neck can take it, sleep on 2-3 pillows to minimize the chance of acid reflux. And extra pillow under the knees (sleeping on her back) would help with the back.

Sleeping on the back is a no no for a pregnant woman with 6 weeks left. It could cut off the main blood supply to the baby.

As far as I was told, heartburn is part of being pregnant. It's a physical issue with organs being pushed around. The reason things like Rolaids, Tums and Zantac work is it changes the acidity of the stomach so when the stomach fluid inevitably splashes up it doesn't burn.

I suppose diet could help in that department but If the acid reflux is as bad as it seems then I can't see diet being the only solution.

she always sleeps on her right side, despite the baby kicking her consistently every time she does, well what I am saying, the baby is always booting from the time she wakes up to the time she goes to sleep, I think its a soccer player for some reason Laughing3

by **Cap'n Clutch** on Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:35 pm

My Daughter was fairly inactive. She moved at least the prescribed number of times so as to not worry us but she wasn't crazy active.

What a difference once she was born though. Most of the time she's on the go. She wanted us to keep her moving when she couldn't do it herself. Now that she's mobile it's actually a relief because she can move all over on her own. When she eats or when she watches her 30 min to 1 hour of Baby Einstein per day she's moving around. Even when she's sleeping she's all over the crib.

by **SensFan71** on Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:36 pm

Cap'n Clutch wrote:My Daughter was fairly inactive. She moved at least the prescribed number of times so as to not worry us but she wasn't crazy active.

What a difference once she was born though. Most of the time she's on the go. She wanted us to keep her moving when she couldn't do it herself. Now that she's mobile it's actually a relief because she can move all over on her own. When she eats or when she watches her 30 min to 1 hour of Baby Einstein per day she's moving around. Even when she's sleeping she's all over the crib.

you wait until she gets moving through walking, you are not going to stop that girl to save your life, she will be all over the place, nice thing to see though, a lot of young kids these days are lazy.

by **wprager** on Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:43 pm

Cap'n Clutch wrote:
wprager wrote:If it's heartburn that's leading to the nausea then how about changing the diet? Also, if her back/neck can take it, sleep on 2-3 pillows to minimize the chance of acid reflux. And extra pillow under the knees (sleeping on her back) would help with the back.

Sleeping on the back is a no no for a pregnant woman with 6 weeks left. It could cut off the main blood supply to the baby.

As far as I was told, heartburn is part of being pregnant. It's a physical issue with organs being pushed around. The reason things like Rolaids, Tums and Zantac work is it changes the acidity of the stomach so when the stomach fluid inevitably splashes up it doesn't burn.

I suppose diet could help in that department but If the acid reflux is as bad as it seems then I can't see diet being the only solution.

If you properly support the legs with a pillow under the knees, and elevate with extra pillows under the head/neck, then any detrimental effects associated with sleeping on your back are minimized. But by all means discuss with your doctor.

When women are pregnant their digestion tends to slow down. One thing you should also try is to eat support earlier in the day to account for that.

by **Cap'n Clutch** on Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:43 pm

She can pull herself up to standing, she hasn't cruised much but she loves climbing stairs big time.

The thing is when I hold her hands to practice walking she doesn't like it. Not because she doesn't want to practice she just hates people holding her hands. I think that might slow her progression to walking a little bit.

by **wprager** on Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:50 pm

Cap'n Clutch wrote:She can pull herself up to standing, she hasn't cruised much but she loves climbing stairs big time.

The thing is when I hold her hands to practice walking she doesn't like it. Not because she doesn't want to practice she just hates people holding her hands. I think that might slow her progression to walking a little bit.

Anything that slows down the progress that eventually leads to her walking out the door with some guy with tattoos and body piercings -- strike that, make that *any* guy -- is a good thing.

by **SensFan71** on Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:50 pm

Cap'n Clutch wrote:She can pull herself up to standing, she hasn't cruised much but she loves climbing stairs big time.

The thing is when I hold her hands to practice walking she doesn't like it. Not because she doesn't want to practice she just hates people holding her hands. I think that might slow her progression to walking a little bit.

independant already eh? I know this might not be the best scenario, but I remember my little guy liked learning while walking along the couch or coffee table (I cringe when I think about it, a lot of close calls), but that is the only way he would do it, he too wanted to do it on his own.