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    Post by SeawaySensFan on Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:35 pm

    rooneypoo wrote:Horton? Big, physical, mean goal-scorer. Not at all afraid to get nasty or bang his way into the front of the net. Hasn't reached anything close to his potential, yet, which isn't surprising given the talent that surrounds him.

    If I were to compare him to someone today, it would be Getzlaf. Hasn't got quite the same hands, yet, but he's got that kind of ability. Not as good, but on his way there.

    I wonder if this quasi-Getzlaf would make Spezza expendable?

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    Post by Guest on Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:37 pm

    Horton, hmmm. Big body, tough as nails, hits, fights, scores... a power forward for the most part.

    The skating isnt quite there for to be a Nash.

    Tough to compare him to anyone right now. Best way to describe him, and potential 1st line power forward.

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    Post by PTFlea on Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:38 pm

    Snuh wrote:
    rooneypoo wrote:
    B B B Bird is the Word wrote:

    That's a lot of love for Horton......what type of player is he? who would you compare him to? Please say Steve Larmer - that guy was awesome.

    Horton? Big, physical, mean goal-scorer. Not at all afraid to get nasty or bang his way into the front of the net. Hasn't reached anything close to his potential, yet, which isn't surprising given the talent that surrounds him.

    If I were to compare him to someone today, it would be Getzlaf. Hasn't got quite the same hands, yet, but he's got that kind of ability. Not as good, but on his way there.

    I've heard of Horton being compared to Nash. I think he would solve our 2nd line center issue. I think you'd have to move Fisher to make it happen though.

    Moving Vermette and his 2.8 million is good enough considering Horton costs 4 million.
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    Post by Cap'n Clutch on Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:39 pm

    504Heater wrote:Nathan Horton is a supreme talent, most people recognize what he brings to the table. However...he hates being in Florida and playing for the Panthers. He's actually been quoted as saying he'd rather retire than play for the Panthers any more, which has prompted more than a few people to call him a 'loser'.

    Here's the problem for the Panthers...he still has 3 years left after this at 12 million dollars. Talk about something that you don't need around your team.

    So what's next? Obviously a trade, that much is all but done, but where?

    The Ottawa Senators.

    For whom? Antoine Vermette.

    At first glance it wreaks of an unfair trade for Florida - and I would imagine there would have to be something else added to the mix, but the rumours continue to circulate that Martin would like to get his hands on Vermette - and unload Horton.

    2 + 2 sometimes really does equal 4.

    Antoine Vermette and a 2nd round pick for Nathan Horton.

    I have a feeling this may actually happen. But then...I also had a feeling I'd win the lottery last week.

    Nathan Horton just shot Martin in the foot with comments like that. Martin will have to take below market for Horton I think.


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    Re: I have a feeling...

    Post by Snuh on Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:41 pm

    504Heater wrote:
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    B B B Bird is the Word wrote:

    That's a lot of love for Horton......what type of player is he? who would you compare him to? Please say Steve Larmer - that guy was awesome.

    Horton? Big, physical, mean goal-scorer. Not at all afraid to get nasty or bang his way into the front of the net. Hasn't reached anything close to his potential, yet, which isn't surprising given the talent that surrounds him.

    If I were to compare him to someone today, it would be Getzlaf. Hasn't got quite the same hands, yet, but he's got that kind of ability. Not as good, but on his way there.

    I've heard of Horton being compared to Nash. I think he would solve our 2nd line center issue. I think you'd have to move Fisher to make it happen though.

    Moving Vermette and his 2.8 million is good enough considering Horton costs 4 million.

    I'd love to see it happen, and if it did, it would be a lopsided trade even if Florida saves 1.2 million. I just don't think Vermette would do it alone. Possibly Vermette and a pick or prospect.
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    Re: I have a feeling...

    Post by rooneypoo on Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:43 pm

    Snuh wrote:
    I've heard of Horton being compared to Nash. I think he would solve our 2nd line center issue. I think you'd have to move Fisher to make it happen though.

    Yeah, that certainly works, too.

    Horton's big advantage at the moment is that he's a good centre, AND a good winger. But really, when you're comparing a guy to Getzlaf (C) or Nash (LW), it's all good news, isn't it? Smile
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    Post by Snuh on Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:45 pm

    rooneypoo wrote:
    Snuh wrote:
    I've heard of Horton being compared to Nash. I think he would solve our 2nd line center issue. I think you'd have to move Fisher to make it happen though.

    Yeah, that certainly works, too.

    Horton's big advantage at the moment is that he's a good centre, AND a good winger. But really, when you're comparing a guy to Getzlaf (C) or Nash (LW), it's all good news, isn't it? Smile

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    Post by rooneypoo on Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:45 pm

    Cap'n Clutch wrote:

    Nathan Horton just shot Martin in the foot with comments like that. Martin will have to take below market for Horton I think.

    That's a good point, Cap'n. Where/when, exactly, did Horton say those comments? Are they in print?
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    Post by LeCaptain on Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:46 pm

    And now, Is it the moment when I suggest another team is going to offer a better player than Vermette? Razz

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    Post by Guest on Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:49 pm

    Wont get a better player than Horton for Vermette, off who you want, it wont happen.
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    Post by SeawaySensFan on Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:50 pm

    marakh wrote:And now, Is it the moment when I suggest another team is going to offer a better player than Vermette? Razz

    Can they offer anyone cheaper though? That will be a pretty big consideration.

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    SeawaySensFan wrote:
    marakh wrote:And now, Is it the moment when I suggest another team is going to offer a better player than Vermette? Razz

    Can they offer anyone cheaper though? That will be a pretty big consideration.

    Horton's contract is reasonable, and signed long term. It also makes people on the current roster a lot easier to move.
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    Post by rooneypoo on Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:55 pm

    marakh wrote:And now, Is it the moment when I suggest another team is going to offer a better player than Vermette? Razz

    I hear you. I think the main hope with this kind of proposal is that Martin still has a man-crush on Vermette. Otherwise, I agree, there are other teams who should be able to out-bid us.
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    Post by SeawaySensFan on Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:58 pm

    If Martin wants to save money, he should deal Stillman back to us for Kelly. Razz
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    Re: I have a feeling...

    Post by PKC on Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:39 pm

    Any way to deal Fisher and Vermette for Bouwmeester and Horton?

    Would solve A LOT of problems for us.
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    Re: I have a feeling...

    Post by PTFlea on Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:43 pm

    PKC wrote:Any way to deal Fisher and Vermette for Bouwmeester and Horton?

    Would solve A LOT of problems for us.

    Yes it would (complete with a re-signing of Bouwmeester).
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    Post by SeawaySensFan on Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:44 pm

    PKC wrote:Any way to deal Fisher and Vermette for Bouwmeester and Horton?

    Would solve A LOT of problems for us.

    It doesn't solve Florida's money problems though. I think we're stuck with Fisher for the duration of his contract.
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    Re: I have a feeling...

    Post by Cap'n Clutch on Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:50 pm

    rooneypoo wrote:
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    Nathan Horton just shot Martin in the foot with comments like that. Martin will have to take below market for Horton I think.

    That's a good point, Cap'n. Where/when, exactly, did Horton say those comments? Are they in print?

    To be honest the way I read Heater's post I assumed it was in print somewhere and was common knowledge but I don't know for sure.


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