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    Post by Riprock on Sat Jan 24, 2009 1:35 pm

    It's nearly impossible to do this for the entire history of the NHL.

    You should break it down into decades, but figuring out where to place players that spanned decades might be tricky. Could also do an all-star format of East vs. West, using the players most played in conference as their team.

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    Post by PKC on Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:17 pm

    Take that lineup and play them against this one and let's talk about who'd win:

    Alex Ovechkin - Sidney Crosby - Jarome Iginla
    Henrik Zetterberg - Evgeni Malkin - Vincent Lecavalier
    Dany Heatley - Pavel Datsyuk - Rick Nash
    Ilya Kovalchuk - Marc Savard - Patrick Kane

    Ryan Getzlaf
    Jeff Carter

    Nicklas Lidstrom - Zdeno Chara
    Chris Pronger - Dion Phaneuf
    Dan Boyle - Shea Weber

    Scott Niedermayer
    Rob Blake

    Martin Brodeur
    Roberto Luongo
    Henrik Lundqvist

    Evgeni Nabokov

    This is a lineup put together in about 10 minutes.

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    Post by Acrobat on Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:34 pm

    I wonder about moving Datsyuk off that line, and putting Getzlaf there, only because of how they played together at the WC. But then I couldn't tell you where Datsyuk should go, because he needs to be there too.

    As an aside, it'd also be interesting to put together a "biggest bust" line-up - those players who ended up furthest below expectations (I'd presume that they'd all be top five picks like Yashin, Daigle, Bonk...hmmmm....I'm seeing I trend I don't like...)
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    Post by asq2 on Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:03 pm

    Acrobat wrote:I wonder about moving Datsyuk off that line, and putting Getzlaf there, only because of how they played together at the WC. But then I couldn't tell you where Datsyuk should go, because he needs to be there too.

    As an aside, it'd also be interesting to put together a "biggest bust" line-up - those players who ended up furthest below expectations (I'd presume that they'd all be top five picks like Yashin, Daigle, Bonk...hmmmm....I'm seeing I trend I don't like...)

    How is Yashin a bust? Greedy, certainly, but 781 career points, a 94 point season in the old NHL doesn't make him a bust IMO.

    You're looking at names like Aki Berg, Brian Lawton, Neil Brady (another Sen), Daniel Dore, Alexandre Volchkov, and Pavel Brendl more than a Yashin.
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    Post by Acrobat on Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:23 pm

    "Bust" may be the wrong word, but I was thinking of what he was expected to do, and the fact that he came up far short of the bar (or maybe I'm just looking back through foggy glasses.)
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    Post by asq2 on Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:36 pm

    In terms of the player he was, Yashin was for a long time the best player in the history of the franchise IMO.

    It was only after the lock-out with Spezza, Heatley and Alfredsson that we can begin to look past him. Or perhaps Hossa, but that's a tough call.

    Yashin as a player was exactly what we hoped he'd be. Yashin as a person was not.
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    Re: All Time NHL team

    Post by davetherave on Sun Jan 25, 2009 1:15 pm

    Geez, this will really date me... :farao:

    Jacques Plante

    Bobby Orr, Doug Harvey

    Jean Beliveau, Gordie Howe, Bobby Hull

    Lucky enough to have watched 'em all play, and still think they'd beat anybody who's come and gone since.
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    Post by sennies1980 on Sun Jan 25, 2009 1:24 pm

    Dale Hawerchuk- Gretzky- Messier

    Lidstrom - Orr


    meh put this together in three seconds i'm sure there are a million other combos that are just as good if not better!

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    Post by Guest on Sun Jan 25, 2009 1:31 pm

    is no one else going to do a full roster? Razz
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    Post by davetherave on Sun Jan 25, 2009 2:04 pm

    Tukker wrote:is no one else going to do a full roster? Razz

    Hey, it's hard enough to pick a starting lineup...are you buying beer for everybody? Smile
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    Post by Acrobat on Sun Jan 25, 2009 5:59 pm

    asq2 wrote:In terms of the player he was, Yashin was for a long time the best player in the history of the franchise IMO.

    It was only after the lock-out with Spezza, Heatley and Alfredsson that we can begin to look past him. Or perhaps Hossa, but that's a tough call.

    Yashin as a player was exactly what we hoped he'd be. Yashin as a person was not.

    Perhaps my expectations of him were higher, and my interpretation of his accomplishments are lesser, then.
    He put up points, but I never saw him excel as a "team player". He didn't appear to make others better. He didn't seem to lead, by voice or by example.
    This is my opinion, but I am certainly open to being educated, if the facts demonstrate otherwise.

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