Classic Rock Magazine Names Top Progressive Rock Albums

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    Re: Classic Rock Magazine Names Top Progressive Rock Albums

    Post by PTFlea on Thu May 21, 2009 2:13 pm

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    I still don't know what prog is...

    So, Genesis are not considered a rock band?

    Zep isn't prog etiher?

    Is it kind of like grunge of the 60's-70's?

    It's definitely a different kind of rock music for sure. I'm surprised that Zep isn't in there, but they're more of the classic rock and roll I guess.

    Radiohead is a good example of a Prop Rock group. The ambient sounds, kinda techno in parts, symphonies, weird, fantasy-esque lyrics etc.

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    Re: Classic Rock Magazine Names Top Progressive Rock Albums

    Post by SeawaySensFan on Thu May 21, 2009 2:14 pm

    504Heater wrote:
    SeawaySensFan wrote:I can't argue with that list. Frankly, though, Chez106 has turned me off Pink Floyd for good.

    They play them too much you mean?

    I don't know how they fit in other music in between Pink Floyd and Tragically Hip.
    So yeah, too much.

    See Emily Play is still Pink Floyds best song.

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    Post by PTFlea on Thu May 21, 2009 2:16 pm

    SeawaySensFan wrote:[
    I don't know how they fit in other music in between Pink Floyd and Tragically Hip.
    So yeah, too much.

    See Emily Play is still Pink Floyds best song.

    Yeah, Mel and I love the stuff from Relics. Fun, cool and usually kinda short.
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    Re: Classic Rock Magazine Names Top Progressive Rock Albums

    Post by SeawaySensFan on Thu May 21, 2009 2:18 pm

    504Heater wrote:5.Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick
    6.Genesis - Foxtrot
    7.King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King
    8.Pink Floyd - Animals
    9.King Crimson - Red
    10.Rush - Moving Pictures (yeah! Rockon )
    11.Yes - Fragile
    12.Genesis - Nursery Cryme
    13.Yes - Relayer
    14.Harmonium - Si On Avait Besoin D'Une Cinquiθme Saison
    15.Rush - Hemispheres

    Did you fill these in or is that the magazines list?
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    Re: Classic Rock Magazine Names Top Progressive Rock Albums

    Post by PTFlea on Thu May 21, 2009 2:18 pm

    SensGirl11 wrote:

    I still don't know what prog is...

    So, Genesis are not considered a rock band?

    Zep isn't prog etiher?

    Is it kind of like grunge of the 60's-70's?

    This is where a lot of the other bands fit in:

    Crossover Prog contains progressive rock music that, though 100% progressive, may have a musical connection to popular music-- whether it be the lack of emphasis on extended compositions, or an influence from mainstream music in addition to classical, jazz and folk. Compositions, however, still exhibit a high degree of sophistication, sometimes outright complexity, and the musicianship and virtuosity is often on a par with established Prog acts. Much like their kin in the established prog sub-genres, these groups will incorporate many major parts of what defines prog rock: the fusing of rock with the structures and discipline of more traditional musics, the use of syntheisizers and new technologies, intelligent thematics, and the expansion of the form.

    The defining characteristics of Crossover Prog are a pop music influence that is largely vacant in typical prog rock. Songs tend toward shorter, more concise presentations though still reach beyond the typical verse, bridge, chorus pattern. The harmonic, melodic, and rhythmic structures may be more easily digested in Crossover while not losing the musical integrity that a prog listener expects. Whereas Prog Related bands are generally commercial groups with certain prog elements or players that were involved in prog acts, Crossover Prog artists are predominantly progressive with elements of popular music.


    Lords of Crossover Prog:
    Supertramp, Radiohead, The Moody Blues etc.
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    Post by PTFlea on Thu May 21, 2009 2:19 pm

    SeawaySensFan wrote:
    504Heater wrote:5.Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick
    6.Genesis - Foxtrot
    7.King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King
    8.Pink Floyd - Animals
    9.King Crimson - Red
    10.Rush - Moving Pictures (yeah! Rockon )
    11.Yes - Fragile
    12.Genesis - Nursery Cryme
    13.Yes - Relayer
    14.Harmonium - Si On Avait Besoin D'Une Cinquiθme Saison
    15.Rush - Hemispheres

    Did you fill these in or is that the magazines list?

    No, these are apparently almost 100% the same as what the magazine just published. I couldn't get the newest publication link, so I used these to fill up the rest of the top 15:

    Full list:

    http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?salbumtypes=1#list
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    Re: Classic Rock Magazine Names Top Progressive Rock Albums

    Post by SeawaySensFan on Thu May 21, 2009 2:22 pm

    504Heater wrote:
    SeawaySensFan wrote:
    504Heater wrote:5.Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick
    6.Genesis - Foxtrot
    7.King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King
    8.Pink Floyd - Animals
    9.King Crimson - Red
    10.Rush - Moving Pictures (yeah! Rockon )
    11.Yes - Fragile
    12.Genesis - Nursery Cryme
    13.Yes - Relayer
    14.Harmonium - Si On Avait Besoin D'Une Cinquiθme Saison
    15.Rush - Hemispheres

    Did you fill these in or is that the magazines list?

    No, these are apparently almost 100% the same as what the magazine just published. I couldn't get the newest publication link, so I used these to fill up the rest of the top 15:

    Full list:

    [url=http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?salbumtypes=1#list
    http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?salbumtypes=1#list[/quote[/url]]

    I'm surprised Harmonium would be on their radar. I would put Supertramp alongside those bands any day but their albums are a little uneven to make an album list, IMO.

    And what of Queen? lol

    I know. I'm sure they have pretty narrow parameters.
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    Post by PTFlea on Thu May 21, 2009 2:25 pm

    SeawaySensFan wrote:
    I'm surprised Harmonium would be on their radar. I would put Supertramp alongside those bands any day but their albums are a little uneven to make an album list, IMO.

    And what of Queen? lol

    I know. I'm sure they have pretty narrow parameters.

    I didn't think anyone could answer this, but....who the heck is Harmonium? Smile
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    Post by SeawaySensFan on Thu May 21, 2009 2:49 pm

    504Heater wrote:
    SeawaySensFan wrote:
    I'm surprised Harmonium would be on their radar. I would put Supertramp alongside those bands any day but their albums are a little uneven to make an album list, IMO.

    And what of Queen? lol

    I know. I'm sure they have pretty narrow parameters.

    I didn't think anyone could answer this, but....who the heck is Harmonium? Smile

    French-canadian group. I thought they were more folk than anything. After further reading, I see they turned into a pretty special prog group. Neat.
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    Post by SensGirl11 on Thu May 21, 2009 2:56 pm

    The Indie Top 50
    Mojo – March 2008
    See Also: [url=http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/lost_tracks_2.htm#60 ‘Alternative’ Indie Moments]60 'Alternative' Indie Moments[/url]

    1. The Smiths – This Charming Man
    2. The Jesus And Mary Chain – Psychocandy - LP
    3. Orange Juice – You Can’t Hide Your Love Forever – LP
    4. The Fall – How I Wrote Elastic Man
    5. My Bloody Valentine – You Made Me Realise – EP
    6. Joy Division – Transmission
    7. Arctic Monkeys – I Bet You Look Good On The Dancefloor
    8. The La’s – There She Goes
    9. The Stone Roses – The Stone Roses – LP
    10. Primal Scream – Crystal Crescent/Velocity Girl
    11. Felt – Forever Breathers The Lonely Word – LP
    12. Subway Sect – Ambition
    13. The House Of Love – Destroy The Heart
    14. Belle And Sebastian – Tigermilk - LP
    15. Echo And The Bunnymen – Crocodiles – LP
    16. Wire – Outdoor Miner
    17. Teenage Fanclub – Everything Flows
    18. Lloyd Cole And The Commotions – Rattlesnakes – LP
    19. This Mortal Coil – Song To The Siren
    20. Spaceman 3 – Revolution
    21. The Pastals – Up For A Bit With The Pastals – LP
    22. Happy Mondays – Lazyitis
    23. Aztec Camera – High Land Hard Rain – LP
    24. The Vaselines – Son Of A Gun
    25. The Loft – Up The Hill And Down The Slope
    26. The Libertines – What A Waster
    27. Franz Ferdinand – Take Me Out
    28. New Order – Temptation
    29. Young Marble Giants – Colossal Youth – LP
    30. The Wedding Present – George Best – LP
    31. Stereolab – Peng! – LP
    32. Elastica – Line Up
    33. The Sea Urchins – Pristine Christine – EP
    34. Saint Etienne – So Tough – LP
    35. The Primitives – Really Stupid
    36. Shop Assistants – Safety Net
    37. The Bodines – Therese
    38. Ride – Ride – EP
    39. Josif K – The Missionary
    40. Jane And Barton – It’s A Fine Day
    41. Mccarthy – Keep An Open Mind Or Else
    42. Fire Engines – Candyskin
    43. The Pooh Sticks – On Tape
    44. The Wild Swans – The Revolutionary Sprit
    45. Half Man Half Biscuit – The Trumpton Riot – EP
    46. Camera Obscura – Lloyd, I’m Ready To Be Heartbroken
    47. Swell Maps – Read About Seymour
    48. James – Village Fire – EP
    49. The Delgados – The Great Eastern – LP
    50. Huggy Bear – Herjazz

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    Post by PTFlea on Thu May 21, 2009 2:58 pm

    SeawaySensFan wrote:French-canadian group. I thought they were more folk than anything. After further reading, I see they turned into a pretty special prog group. Neat.

    Hmmm...I'll have to check one of their discs out. It figures that the best Canadian Prog comes out of Quebec - they're the best at recognizing and celebrating prog bands like Genesis and Floyd before they were huge.
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    Post by shabbs on Thu May 21, 2009 3:06 pm

    Well, when I think of "rock" I certainly don't think of Prog Rock as described here... I think of the following:

    http://classicrock.about.com/od/recommendationsandreviews/a/top100_bands.htm

    Classic Rock...

    cool)
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    Post by PTFlea on Thu May 21, 2009 3:09 pm

    shabbs wrote:Well, when I think of "rock" I certainly don't think of Prog Rock as described here... I think of the following:

    http://classicrock.about.com/od/recommendationsandreviews/a/top100_bands.htm

    Classic Rock...

    cool)

    Delicious. I might argue with the rankings of some of the bands, but a pretty fine diddling list. cool)
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    Post by PTFlea on Thu May 21, 2009 3:10 pm

    I see what you mean about Harmonium SSF.
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    Re: Classic Rock Magazine Names Top Progressive Rock Albums

    Post by shabbs on Thu May 21, 2009 3:14 pm

    504Heater wrote:
    shabbs wrote:Well, when I think of "rock" I certainly don't think of Prog Rock as described here... I think of the following:

    http://classicrock.about.com/od/recommendationsandreviews/a/top100_bands.htm

    Classic Rock...

    cool)

    Delicious. I might argue with the rankings of some of the bands, but a pretty fine diddling list. cool)
    Great list. Really sums up rock in a nutshell as far as I'm concerned.

    I also find it funny that "Boston" appears right before "Cream".

    Boston Cream.

    Heh heh.
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    Post by SeawaySensFan on Thu May 21, 2009 3:15 pm

    504Heater wrote:
    SeawaySensFan wrote:French-canadian group. I thought they were more folk than anything. After further reading, I see they turned into a pretty special prog group. Neat.

    Hmmm...I'll have to check one of their discs out. It figures that the best Canadian Prog comes out of Quebec - they're the best at recognizing and celebrating prog bands like Genesis and Floyd before they were huge.

    This is true. CHOM was a big booster of the prog.
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