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    Re: Line Predictions:

    Post by Ev on Wed Jul 29, 2015 8:26 pm

    I will predict once I see if Hoffman is on the team or not

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    Post by wprager on Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:01 pm

    spader wrote:What are your predictions this year?

    Mac-Turris-Stone
    Hoffman-ZBad-Ryan
    9MM-JGP-Lazar
    Puempel-Smith-Chiasson

    Neil sits
    Prince 1st callup

    Methot-Karlsson
    Wiercioch-Ceci
    Cowen-Boro

    Phillips sits
    Wideman 1st callup

    Greening waived?

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    Re: Line Predictions:

    Post by spader on Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:50 am

    wprager wrote:
    spader wrote:What are your predictions this year?

    Mac-Turris-Stone
    Hoffman-ZBad-Ryan
    9MM-JGP-Lazar
    Puempel-Smith-Chiasson

    Neil sits
    Prince 1st callup

    Methot-Karlsson
    Wiercioch-Ceci
    Cowen-Boro

    Phillips sits
    Wideman 1st callup

    Greening waived?

    waived, traded, bought-out, mutually agreed termination

    I don't know how it's going to go down, but I think its unlikely he'll play for the Ottawa Senators this year.
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    Re: Line Predictions:

    Post by Flo The Action on Thu Jul 30, 2015 9:34 am

    spader wrote:
    wprager wrote:
    spader wrote:What are your predictions this year?

    Mac-Turris-Stone
    Hoffman-ZBad-Ryan
    9MM-JGP-Lazar
    Puempel-Smith-Chiasson

    Neil sits
    Prince 1st callup

    Methot-Karlsson
    Wiercioch-Ceci
    Cowen-Boro

    Phillips sits
    Wideman 1st callup

    Greening waived?

    waived, traded, bought-out, mutually agreed termination

    I don't know how it's going to go down, but I think its unlikely he'll play for the Ottawa Senators this year.
    I can't see a mutually agreed termination in this case. He's got too much money coming to him. He's likely going to get much less than that if he gets another shot with another team. Why would he throw away the chance to make that much.
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    Re: Line Predictions:

    Post by PTFlea on Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:31 am

    Mac - Turris - Stone
    Hoffman - ZBad - Ryan
    Michalek - Pageau - Lazar
    Chiasson - Smith - Neil
    Prince
    Greening (waived)

    Methot - Karlsson
    Wiercioch - Ceci
    Cowen - Boro
    Wideman/Phillips

    EDIT: Potentially Lazar starts in the AHL because he's not waiver eligible. Puempel starts there too. All a numbers game. Wideman as well, I would assume.
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    Re: Line Predictions:

    Post by spader on Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:33 am

    Flo The Action wrote:
    spader wrote:
    wprager wrote:
    spader wrote:What are your predictions this year?

    Mac-Turris-Stone
    Hoffman-ZBad-Ryan
    9MM-JGP-Lazar
    Puempel-Smith-Chiasson

    Neil sits
    Prince 1st callup

    Methot-Karlsson
    Wiercioch-Ceci
    Cowen-Boro

    Phillips sits
    Wideman 1st callup

    Greening waived?

    waived, traded, bought-out, mutually agreed termination

    I don't know how it's going to go down, but I think its unlikely he'll play for the Ottawa Senators this year.
    I can't see a mutually agreed termination in this case. He's got too much money coming to him. He's likely going to get much less than that if he gets another shot with another team. Why would he throw away the chance to make that much.

    Oh, I agree. I just meant that there are lots of ways of doing it, but I don't see him playing for the O Sens at all. We'll see.
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    Re: Line Predictions:

    Post by wprager on Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:53 am

    SpezDispensed wrote:Mac - Turris - Stone
    Hoffman - ZBad - Ryan
    Michalek - Pageau - Lazar
    Chiasson - Smith - Neil
    Prince
    Greening (waived)

    Methot - Karlsson
    Wiercioch - Ceci
    Cowen - Boro
    Wideman/Phillips

    EDIT: Potentially Lazar starts in the AHL because he's not waiver eligible.  Puempel starts there too.  All a numbers game.  Wideman as well, I would assume.

    Did you mean Puempel as the 13th forward? There's little chance Prince is ahead of Puempel.


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    Re: Line Predictions:

    Post by PTFlea on Thu Jul 30, 2015 12:14 pm

    wprager wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:Mac - Turris - Stone
    Hoffman - ZBad - Ryan
    Michalek - Pageau - Lazar
    Chiasson - Smith - Neil
    Prince
    Greening (waived)

    Methot - Karlsson
    Wiercioch - Ceci
    Cowen - Boro
    Wideman/Phillips

    EDIT: Potentially Lazar starts in the AHL because he's not waiver eligible.  Puempel starts there too.  All a numbers game.  Wideman as well, I would assume.

    Did you mean Puempel as the 13th forward?  There's little chance Prince is ahead of Puempel.

    I don't see how the Sens are gonna get around the numbers game that's coming unless they make a couple of trades. Puempel is on a 2-way that doesn't require waivers, while Prince is waiver eligible. I think it's tough to say for sure that Prince would get claimed off waivers. Buffalo perhaps, but I don't think they want to lose him for nothing after all the development that's gone into him and the fact that he has a lot of skill.

    Is there another way?
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    Re: Line Predictions:

    Post by Ev on Thu Jul 30, 2015 12:24 pm

    SpezDispensed wrote:
    wprager wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:Mac - Turris - Stone
    Hoffman - ZBad - Ryan
    Michalek - Pageau - Lazar
    Chiasson - Smith - Neil
    Prince
    Greening (waived)

    Methot - Karlsson
    Wiercioch - Ceci
    Cowen - Boro
    Wideman/Phillips

    EDIT: Potentially Lazar starts in the AHL because he's not waiver eligible.  Puempel starts there too.  All a numbers game.  Wideman as well, I would assume.

    Did you mean Puempel as the 13th forward?  There's little chance Prince is ahead of Puempel.

    I don't see how the Sens are gonna get around the numbers game that's coming unless they make a couple of trades.  Puempel is on a 2-way that doesn't require waivers, while Prince is waiver eligible.  I think it's tough to say for sure that Prince would get claimed off waivers.  Buffalo perhaps, but I don't think they want to lose him for nothing after all the development that's gone into him and the fact that he has a lot of skill.

    Is there another way?

    Prince doesn't require waivers either, apparently.
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    Re: Line Predictions:

    Post by PTFlea on Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:53 pm

    Ev wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:
    wprager wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:Mac - Turris - Stone
    Hoffman - ZBad - Ryan
    Michalek - Pageau - Lazar
    Chiasson - Smith - Neil
    Prince
    Greening (waived)

    Methot - Karlsson
    Wiercioch - Ceci
    Cowen - Boro
    Wideman/Phillips

    EDIT: Potentially Lazar starts in the AHL because he's not waiver eligible.  Puempel starts there too.  All a numbers game.  Wideman as well, I would assume.

    Did you mean Puempel as the 13th forward?  There's little chance Prince is ahead of Puempel.

    I don't see how the Sens are gonna get around the numbers game that's coming unless they make a couple of trades.  Puempel is on a 2-way that doesn't require waivers, while Prince is waiver eligible.  I think it's tough to say for sure that Prince would get claimed off waivers.  Buffalo perhaps, but I don't think they want to lose him for nothing after all the development that's gone into him and the fact that he has a lot of skill.

    Is there another way?

    Prince doesn't require waivers either, apparently.

    That would be nice. I thought he did.
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    Re: Line Predictions:

    Post by Flo The Action on Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:32 pm

    Ev wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:
    wprager wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:Mac - Turris - Stone
    Hoffman - ZBad - Ryan
    Michalek - Pageau - Lazar
    Chiasson - Smith - Neil
    Prince
    Greening (waived)

    Methot - Karlsson
    Wiercioch - Ceci
    Cowen - Boro
    Wideman/Phillips

    EDIT: Potentially Lazar starts in the AHL because he's not waiver eligible.  Puempel starts there too.  All a numbers game.  Wideman as well, I would assume.

    Did you mean Puempel as the 13th forward?  There's little chance Prince is ahead of Puempel.

    I don't see how the Sens are gonna get around the numbers game that's coming unless they make a couple of trades.  Puempel is on a 2-way that doesn't require waivers, while Prince is waiver eligible.  I think it's tough to say for sure that Prince would get claimed off waivers.  Buffalo perhaps, but I don't think they want to lose him for nothing after all the development that's gone into him and the fact that he has a lot of skill.

    Is there another way?

    Prince doesn't require waivers either, apparently.
    According to who? I had heard that he did.
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    Re: Line Predictions:

    Post by wprager on Fri Jul 31, 2015 7:37 am

    SpezDispensed wrote:
    wprager wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:Mac - Turris - Stone
    Hoffman - ZBad - Ryan
    Michalek - Pageau - Lazar
    Chiasson - Smith - Neil
    Prince
    Greening (waived)

    Methot - Karlsson
    Wiercioch - Ceci
    Cowen - Boro
    Wideman/Phillips

    EDIT: Potentially Lazar starts in the AHL because he's not waiver eligible.  Puempel starts there too.  All a numbers game.  Wideman as well, I would assume.

    Did you mean Puempel as the 13th forward?  There's little chance Prince is ahead of Puempel.

    I don't see how the Sens are gonna get around the numbers game that's coming unless they make a couple of trades.  Puempel is on a 2-way that doesn't require waivers, while Prince is waiver eligible.  I think it's tough to say for sure that Prince would get claimed off waivers.  Buffalo perhaps, but I don't think they want to lose him for nothing after all the development that's gone into him and the fact that he has a lot of skill.

    Is there another way?

    Buy out Greening (or waive him to the AHL -- what's the worst that could happen, he gets claimed?); keep both Pumps and Prince for competition. Condra's gone from last season so this opens a spot, sort-of.


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    Post by wprager on Fri Jul 31, 2015 7:42 am

    Waiver Exemption Rules: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NHL_salary_cap#Exemptions

    Prince was signed to his ELC in July 2012; Prince was born November 1992, so he was 19 at the time. He's only had 2 NHL games so he doesn't slot into the 160 game, nor is the 4 year exemption period reduced to 3.

    So 4 years. He'll be waiver exempt next July.


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