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    Re: rumours of the week

    Post by PTFlea on Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:47 pm

    RobbyJ wrote:Frolov = top 6 fwd, Voynov (7.5 C rating from Hockeysfuture).

    More than what a lot of teams could offer, plus I don't think Semin will be traded.
    I don't think he'll be traded until the off-season either, unless it is in a deal that brings in an upgrade. Only Kovy fits that bill.[/quote]

    Except Frolov's an upcoming UFA and I doubt Waddell wants that coming back. This is gonna be incredibly tricky IMO, Waddell has a big chance to either sign this big guy - or reshape his team once and for all. He's done a great job RECENTLY, but this defines whether he keeps his job or not (again IMO).

    As for Semin - how can he be traded in the off-season, he's a UFA? At most, he'd get a minimal, J-Bo-like return.

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    Re: rumours of the week

    Post by PTFlea on Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:47 pm

    Dash wrote:Well, here's the situation - they are in no panic to trade him at all even. He's an RFA and if they can't re-sign him, then they could either trade him, or a team can make an offer that Washington either matches, or walks-away from, and likely would get three 1st rnd picks.

    Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....he's an RFA. That I didn't realize.

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    Re: rumours of the week

    Post by Riprock on Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:48 pm

    SpezDispenser wrote:
    RobbyJ wrote:Well, he makes 4.6M now and is quite impressed with his own abilities, so maybe he'd "settle" for 6M. He just seems like a pay me what I want or I'm going home kind of player.

    Yeah, he does seem to impress himself a lot. I hope he and his agent realize that he's in the PERFECT place to make 5.5-6 million dollars, not have the burning spotlight of pressure on him AND get to play with the league's best winger.

    But yeah, I don't even know if the Caps can afford to sign him and Backstrom at the same time.

    They'd have a lot of money tied up in 4 players, but they'd have 4 really good players lol. And for argument sake, let's say Backstrom and Semin get Toews/Kane deals.

    Ovechkin -9.5
    Greene - 5.25
    Semin - 6.3
    Backstrom - 6.3

    That's 27.35M tied up in 4 players. That's almost half the cap. Yes, it is a lot, and yeah, Washington would probably not want that situation, but it is doable if they fill out the team with cheap contracts.
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    Re: rumours of the week

    Post by PTFlea on Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:06 pm

    I think they can get them for less than that if they're RFAs, but yeah, theoretically they could do that. What about Laich? Varlamov? Guys that really fill in the roster? It's gonna be a pinch to see how they do all of this.

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    Post by Guest on Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:56 pm

    @SpezD and SeaWay, I usually agree with SpezD, not so much you SeaWay, but either way, I think you are so wrong about JBo. I have said before on here, I think when I first joined that JBo could be the most overrated Dman in the league. Since Minor Bantam he has only led a team of his to the playoffs only once. and even then he was traded to a playoff team at the deadline. Once finally in the playoffs how did he do you ask? 18 games and 0 (ZERO) points. Most over rated in the league.

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    Re: rumours of the week

    Post by Guest on Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:59 pm

    So basically, almost 15 years of hockey and 0 playoff points. Calgary is my fav team and Ottawa is my second, I want JBo off of calgary, but not going to ottawa
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    Re: rumours of the week

    Post by LeCaptain on Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:01 pm

    THose judge Jay Bouwmeester by th stats just don't get it.
    If you watch him play you know he is good, even if he gets 0 poitns all year it doesn`t matter.

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    Re: rumours of the week

    Post by Guest on Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:07 pm

    PHEW! Because I have only missed 3 Calgary games all year and seen 5 games live.
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    Post by LeCaptain on Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:12 pm

    If you watch all their games and still think he sucks, I don`t know what to tell you^^.
    If you wanna talk about stats:
    - only 3 less points than Phaneuf, who is supposed to be the scoring machine, and who is worse on the defensive game
    - +7, 2nd on the team on +/-
    - leads the team in ice time
    - He's probably gonna get playoff points this season, does that make him a better player?

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    Re: rumours of the week

    Post by Guest on Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:24 pm

    Oh I know the stats. Nowhere near worth the money he is getting paid. But you can say that about a lot of guys. Take the overrated JBo and get Calgary some depth. Just my opinion
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    Post by wprager on Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:01 am

    cloverleaf wrote:@SpezD and SeaWay, I usually agree with SpezD, not so much you SeaWay, but either way, I think you are so wrong about JBo. I have said before on here, I think when I first joined that JBo could be the most overrated Dman in the league. Since Minor Bantam he has only led a team of his to the playoffs only once. and even then he was traded to a playoff team at the deadline. Once finally in the playoffs how did he do you ask? 18 games and 0 (ZERO) points. Most over rated in the league.

    18 games? Sounds like a pretty successful playoff outing for the team. I wouldn't mind it a bit if we played 18 playoff games and, say, Kuba had zero points through that stretch.


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    Re: rumours of the week

    Post by Cap'n Clutch on Tue Dec 22, 2009 8:42 am

    SpezDispenser wrote:The Hockey News wants us to believe that this would be the move to make:

    http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/30186-THNcom-Blog-Phaneuf-for-Spezza-a-dream-deal-for-Senators-and-Flames.html

    That Spezza for Phaneuf musing has been around for months hasn't it. I guess the Hockey news thought they'd dust it off, polish it up a bit and make it new?


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    Re: rumours of the week

    Post by PTFlea on Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:33 am

    Cap'n Clutch wrote:
    SpezDispenser wrote:The Hockey News wants us to believe that this would be the move to make:

    http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/30186-THNcom-Blog-Phaneuf-for-Spezza-a-dream-deal-for-Senators-and-Flames.html

    That Spezza for Phaneuf musing has been around for months hasn't it. I guess the Hockey news thought they'd dust it off, polish it up a bit and make it new?

    Laugh1 Yeah, that's the first thing I thought of as well.
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    Re: rumours of the week

    Post by PTFlea on Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:36 am

    cloverleaf wrote:@SpezD and SeaWay, I usually agree with SpezD, not so much you SeaWay, but either way, I think you are so wrong about JBo. I have said before on here, I think when I first joined that JBo could be the most overrated Dman in the league. Since Minor Bantam he has only led a team of his to the playoffs only once. and even then he was traded to a playoff team at the deadline. Once finally in the playoffs how did he do you ask? 18 games and 0 (ZERO) points. Most over rated in the league.

    He's a little overrated yeah, but the speed element is a big one and the first pass is incredible as well.

    But yeah, he's got a lot of proving to do.
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    Re: rumours of the week

    Post by Riprock on Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:38 am

    cloverleaf wrote:Oh I know the stats. Nowhere near worth the money he is getting paid. But you can say that about a lot of guys. Take the overrated JBo and get Calgary some depth. Just my opinion

    Excellent point right here. I was one of the advocates for Ottawa getting him, but he just hasn't proven he is a #1 guy. He might play well, but really for that money, he needs to put up 50-60 points consistently. I mean, for the most part, Phillips plays a good game. Is he worth $6+? Again, Picard is producing as effectively as him. Is he worth $6+?

    I mean, perhaps he was a product of a poor team. I'm not saying he isn't good, he just might not be $6+ good.
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    Re: rumours of the week

    Post by LeCaptain on Tue Dec 22, 2009 5:56 pm

    Phaneuf is worse and is no much better on the scoring sheet, paid as much.
    Of course Jbo is overpaid, he was a UFA signing. Doesn't mean he's not good or that CAlgary could have found a better player at that price.

    Bottom line, the team is pretty good and is deep at all positions.
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    Re: rumours of the week

    Post by Flo The Action on Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:09 pm

    ok, back with a couple of interesting ones that even if they come from ESPN, smell like smoke....
    Souray heading back East?
    The strong could get stronger.
    guess that means he aint coming to us. oh well philly?

    Avs looking to trade Liles, others
    The Colorado Avalanche are trying to get rid of some guys.
    i bet there's a few teams interested, maybe other struggling players going the other way. things seasmed to have worked out on both sides in the smith trade.
    Rangers trading for Cogliano?
    A trade might be close between the Rangers and Oilers.
    old news, i think it's NYR trying to get rid of contracs, maybe higgins?

    Sharks may struggle after Olympics
    The Sharks might struggle after the Olympics, with 15 players in the games.
    in the rumour section but really, i put it in as hopeful predictions.
    Sens may trade for Pitkanen
    The Ottawa Senators may be eying this 26-year-old defenseman.
    interesting... i don't know much about him but i'm amazed i found a sens rumour on ESPN...

    what do you guys think???
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    Re: rumours of the week

    Post by Flo The Action on Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:11 pm

    pitkanen for cheechoo anyone??

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