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2010 Russian Roster

Post by Riprock on Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:17 pm

Russia's Olympic hockey roster Goalies
Ilya Bryzgalov (Phoenix), Evgeni Nabokov (San Jose), Semyon Varlamov (Washington) Defence
Sergei
Gonchar (Pittsburgh), Denis Grebeshkov (Edmonton), Dmitri Kalinin
(Salavat Ufa), Konstantin Korneyev (CSKA Moscow), Andrei Markov
(Montreal), Ilya Nikulin (Ak Bars Kazan), Fedor Tyutin (Columbus),
Anton Vonchenkov (Ottawa) Forwards
Maxim Afinogenov
(Atlanta), Pavel Datsyuk (Detroit), Sergei Fedorov (Metallurg
Magnitogorsk), Ilya Kovalchuk (Atlanta), Viktor Kozlov (Salavat Ufa),
Evgeni Malkin (Pittsburgh), Alexei Morozov (Ak Bars Kazan), Alexander
Ovechkin (Washington), Alexander Radulov (Salavat Ufa), Alexander Semin
(Washington), Danis Zaripov (Ak Bars Kazan), Sergei Zinoviev (Salavat
Ufa)

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Re: 2010 Russian Roster

Post by Riprock on Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:18 pm

http://www.ctvolympics.ca/hockey/news/newsid=24347.html?cid=rsstsn

NHL, NHLPA write to IIHF about Team Russia


Because of comments the coach made saying he was going to make any changes to his roster as he felt, up until the Olympics start.

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Re: 2010 Russian Roster

Post by Riprock on Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:19 pm

I guess having Mike Richards on the Canadian team will spark the Ovechkin-Richards rivalry. Perhaps that was a huge reason that he was picked?

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Re: 2010 Russian Roster

Post by wprager on Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:26 pm

Sure, but according to the coach this is just a "provisional roster".

"I wouldn't guarantee a place on the Olympic team to anyone," Bykov was quoted as saying at the time. "If my players can't perform up to the standards playing for their respective clubs, then how can I rely on them in Vancouver?"


http://www.ctvolympics.ca/hockey/news/newsid=24347.html?cid=rsstsn

It's a bit of a pickle. According to the IIHF the rosters *are* provisional and do not have to be set in stone until Feb. 15, so long as the replacement players are all on the WADA list for anti-doping purposes. The NHLPA and the NHL disagree, saying that the only substitutions allowed are for injury replacements.

Frankly, what does it really matter?

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Post by M_Christopher on Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:29 pm

wprager wrote:Sure, but according to the coach this is just a "provisional roster".

"I wouldn't guarantee a place on the Olympic team to anyone," Bykov was quoted as saying at the time. "If my players can't perform up to the standards playing for their respective clubs, then how can I rely on them in Vancouver?"


http://www.ctvolympics.ca/hockey/news/newsid=24347.html?cid=rsstsn

It's a bit of a pickle. According to the IIHF the rosters *are* provisional and do not have to be set in stone until Feb. 15, so long as the replacement players are all on the WADA list for anti-doping purposes. The NHLPA and the NHL disagree, saying that the only substitutions allowed are for injury replacements.

Frankly, what does it really matter?


Mehn it's just another "we're russians", we'll do whatever the Diddle we want.

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Re: 2010 Russian Roster

Post by Riprock on Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:34 pm

Anyone confused with the addition of Radulov? I thought there was a ruling he couldn't play in the IIHF for breaching his NHL contract?

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Re: 2010 Russian Roster

Post by wprager on Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:35 pm

Hey, don't make me exercise my Russianness. I've got admin powers.

Seriously, though, first of all, according to the IIHF they are correct -- this is a provisional roster. And even if it wasn't, they have as much of a chance to make a mistake now as in the next 6 weeks. Seriously, it should be the best players against the best players. Would Team Canada's strategy change drastically if the Russian roster changed? It's not likely that Yzerman's selections were affected by the revelation that Kovalev didn't make the team, or that Fedorov did.

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Post by Riprock on Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:40 pm

True. Plus injuries happen all the time, or someone might decide not to go for personal reasons.

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Post by wprager on Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:49 pm

It's a bit of a mind game. The NHL/NHLPA are posturing just as much as the Russians (if not more).

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Re: 2010 Russian Roster

Post by PKC on Thu Dec 31, 2009 5:33 pm

First of all, these games are sanctioned by the IOC, not the IIHF, which explains the Radulov inclusion.

Second, as long as players pass the required doping tests, they can name anyone to the team before the tournament starts.

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Post by Riprock on Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:07 pm

Oh, so he can play in the Olympics but not the World's? Weird.

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Post by wprager on Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:13 pm

Dash wrote:Oh, so he can play in the Olympics but not the World's? Weird.


I didn't say that. All I said is that it's happened in figure skating/ice dancing. Rules could have changed since then, or the IOC/IIHF agreements may be different.

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Post by wprager on Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:16 pm

wprager wrote:
Dash wrote:Oh, so he can play in the Olympics but not the World's? Weird.


I didn't say that. All I said is that it's happened in figure skating/ice dancing. Rules could have changed since then, or the IOC/IIHF agreements may be different.


Sorry, this belongs in the other thread where Olympic eligibility is being discussed w.r.t. Tyler Myers.

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Post by Riprock on Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:26 pm

Radulov should come back to the NHL though... the Pred's would be much better with him.

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Re: 2010 Russian Roster

Post by PKC on Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:47 am

Diddle the IIHF and IOC anyways.

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Re: 2010 Russian Roster

Post by beedub on Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:04 pm

Dash wrote:Russia's Olympic hockey roster Goalies
Ilya Bryzgalov (Phoenix), Evgeni Nabokov (San Jose), Semyon Varlamov (Washington) Defence
Sergei
Gonchar (Pittsburgh), Denis Grebeshkov (Edmonton), Dmitri Kalinin
(Salavat Ufa), Konstantin Korneyev (CSKA Moscow), Andrei Markov
(Montreal), Ilya Nikulin (Ak Bars Kazan), Fedor Tyutin (Columbus),
Anton Vonchenkov (Ottawa) Forwards
Maxim Afinogenov
(Atlanta), Pavel Datsyuk (Detroit), Sergei Fedorov (Metallurg
Magnitogorsk), Ilya Kovalchuk (Atlanta), Viktor Kozlov (Salavat Ufa),
Evgeni Malkin (Pittsburgh), Alexei Morozov (Ak Bars Kazan), Alexander
Ovechkin (Washington), Alexander Radulov (Salavat Ufa), Alexander Semin
(Washington), Danis Zaripov (Ak Bars Kazan), Sergei Zinoviev (Salavat
Ufa)


Yikes. Gold Medal winners, IMO

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Re: 2010 Russian Roster

Post by PKC on Fri Jan 01, 2010 11:10 pm

beedub wrote:
Dash wrote:Russia's Olympic hockey roster Goalies
Ilya Bryzgalov (Phoenix), Evgeni Nabokov (San Jose), Semyon Varlamov (Washington) Defence
Sergei
Gonchar (Pittsburgh), Denis Grebeshkov (Edmonton), Dmitri Kalinin
(Salavat Ufa), Konstantin Korneyev (CSKA Moscow), Andrei Markov
(Montreal), Ilya Nikulin (Ak Bars Kazan), Fedor Tyutin (Columbus),
Anton Vonchenkov (Ottawa) Forwards
Maxim Afinogenov
(Atlanta), Pavel Datsyuk (Detroit), Sergei Fedorov (Metallurg
Magnitogorsk), Ilya Kovalchuk (Atlanta), Viktor Kozlov (Salavat Ufa),
Evgeni Malkin (Pittsburgh), Alexei Morozov (Ak Bars Kazan), Alexander
Ovechkin (Washington), Alexander Radulov (Salavat Ufa), Alexander Semin
(Washington), Danis Zaripov (Ak Bars Kazan), Sergei Zinoviev (Salavat
Ufa)


Yikes. Gold Medal winners, IMO


I don't think their D and penalty kill is going to hold up when it counts.

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Post by wprager on Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:16 am

Gonchar and Markov on the back with those forwards up front is a killer PP. Don't dare take a penalty against them. As someone already mentioned, Team Canada is not overly fast, so I can see the Russians drawing a lot of penalties.

On the PK side of things, Markov is pretty good, and of course they have Volchenkov as well.

As usual, it will come down to goaltending.

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Post by PKC on Sat Jan 02, 2010 11:04 am

wprager wrote:Gonchar and Markov on the back with those forwards up front is a killer PP. Don't dare take a penalty against them. As someone already mentioned, Team Canada is not overly fast, so I can see the Russians drawing a lot of penalties.

On the PK side of things, Markov is pretty good, and of course they have Volchenkov as well.

As usual, it will come down to goaltending.


So they are going to put out two defensemen on the penalty kill and that's it? Datsyuk is going to kill penalties for sure, but how many minutes can he play per kill? Their second unit penalty kill is still going to go up against monster power play units by USA, Canada and Sweden.

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