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12010 USA Roster Empty 2010 USA Roster on Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:31 pm

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Not announced yet, but should be a good, tough team to play against. also very young without the likes of Roenick, Modano and Tkatchuk among others.

Not an easy decision for Buekr and USA Hockey. Unlike Canada, who had an equally difficult decision and plenty of really good players to choose from, Burke has fewer players to choose from but there are a lot of skilled players unlike the number of 3rd-4th line Canadians out there.

Heres' my team:
Goalies: Miller (1), Thomas, Quick (sorry Anderson)

Defence: E. Johnson, J. Johnson, Bogosian, Komisarek, Rafalski, Suter, Orpik/Scuderi (they need another shutdown guy)

Forwards: Kane, Kessel, Parise, Stastny, Backes, Brown, Byfuglien, Gomez, Drury, Ryan, Oshie, Okposo, Kesler

EDIT: OFFICIAL ROSTER ANNOUNCED

Goaltenders:
Ryan Miller (Buffalo Sabres), Jonathan Quick (Los Angeles Kings), Tim Thomas (Boston Bruins) Defensemen:
Erik
Johnson (St Louis Blues), Jack Johnson (Los Angeles Kings), Mike
Komisarek (Toronto Maple Leafs), Paul Martin (New Jersey Devils),
Brooks Orpik (Pittsburgh Penguins), Brian Rafalski (Detroit Red Wings),
Ryan Suter (Nashville Predators) Forwards:
David Backes (St.
Louis Blues), Dustin Brown (Los Angeles Kings), Ryan Callahan (New York
Rangers), Chris Drury (New York Rangers), Patrick Kane (Chicago
Blackhawks), Ryan Kesler (Vancouver Canucks), Phil Kessel (Toronto
Maple Leafs), Jamie Langenbrunner (New Jersey Devils), Ryan Malone
(Tampa Bay Lightning), Zack Parise (New Jersey Devils), Joe Pavelski
(San Jose Sharks), Bobby Ryan (Anaheim Ducks), Paul Stastny (Colorado
Avalanche)



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22010 USA Roster Empty Re: 2010 USA Roster on Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:32 pm

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If you are the US you might want to have Oshie play against Nash every shift, cause if you have seen the battles before, you know that Nash has a hard time against him.

32010 USA Roster Empty Re: 2010 USA Roster on Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:45 pm

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What??? No Ryan Shannon?

USA will have a good young fast team. Their speed could cause problems for Canada.

42010 USA Roster Empty Re: 2010 USA Roster on Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:57 pm

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Ryan Whitney? Andy Greene? How about Tyler Myers? I'd take any of those three ahead of Komisarek.


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52010 USA Roster Empty Re: 2010 USA Roster on Thu Dec 31, 2009 5:04 pm

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Myers last played for Canada though. Whitney maybe, but don't forget Komi's a Leaf. I'd probably take Matt Greene over Andy. But a lot of teams I have seen have left Erik out, and that is nuts.

62010 USA Roster Empty Re: 2010 USA Roster on Thu Dec 31, 2009 5:17 pm

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Matt Greene? Why? I was looking at D that play a lot of minutes, he only plays 17:21; Andy plays nearly 24 (and has better stats).

Didn't know about Myers. Since he holds dual citizenship, what's his eligibility? I assume you can't flip/flop every year, so there's got to be a rule, and I'd bet he can switch at least once. If Hockey USA gives him a call, I wonder what his answer would be.


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72010 USA Roster Empty Re: 2010 USA Roster on Thu Dec 31, 2009 5:27 pm

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wprager wrote:Matt Greene? Why? I was looking at D that play a lot of minutes, he only plays 17:21; Andy plays nearly 24 (and has better stats).

Didn't know about Myers. Since he holds dual citizenship, what's his eligibility? I assume you can't flip/flop every year, so there's got to be a rule, and I'd bet he can switch at least once. If Hockey USA gives him a call, I wonder what his answer would be.

You can't flip flop. IOC rules stipulate that once you've played in any international competition for a country, that you can never play for another.

82010 USA Roster Empty Re: 2010 USA Roster on Thu Dec 31, 2009 5:49 pm

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In *any* international competition? Surely it's not that wide. I played a little hockey against the kids from the AMerican Embassy in Moscow (back in '72, we had our own "Summit Series"). Does that mean (forget about skill) that I would not be allowed to suit up for Team Canada?

What about Hull? Did he ever play in the WJC or was it not held back then?

I just googled and found lots of example in the world of figure skating. For example, Marina Anissina was born/raised in the USSR and won the 1990 and 1992 World Junior Figure Skating Championships. She then partnered with Gwendal Peizerat and received an accelerated French citizenship so she could represent France, winning two Olympic medals, including one Gold. Isabelle and Paul Duchesnay represented Canada originally, but won an Olympic Silver for France.


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92010 USA Roster Empty Re: 2010 USA Roster on Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:13 pm

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There are exceptions to the rule - I posted them somewhere, but I can dig it up again.

Matt Greene is a character guy and very physical - a shutdown guy. Not too sure what Andy brings though, you seem to know better on him. I just think they will need some tough defenders to shut down the opponents top guns.

102010 USA Roster Empty Re: 2010 USA Roster on Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:14 pm

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Here are the official rules for eligibility in the IIHF:




IIHF Eligibility




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To
play in the IIHF World Championship, the Olympic ice hockey tournament
and the qualifications to these competitions, players must fulfill the
following qualification requirements:


  • Each player must be under the jurisdiction of an IIHF member national association.
  • Each player must be a citizen of the country he represents.



Acquiring a new national eligibility (The ‘two-year’ case)
When
a player has changed his citizenship or has acquired another
citizenship and wants to participate for the first time in an IIHF
competition representing his new country he must:


  • Prove that he has participated for at least two
    consecutive years in the national competitions of his new country
    during which period he has neither transferred to another country nor
    played ice hockey within any other country.
  • Have an
    international transfer card (ITC) that shows the transfer to the
    national competition of his new country and which was approved and
    dated at least two years before the start of the IIHF competition in
    which he wishes to participate.



Change of national eligibility (The ‘four-year’ case)
A
player, who has previously participated in IIHF competition, can switch
national eligibility (but only once in a player's life) if:


  • He is a citizen of the new country of his choice
  • He
    has participated for at least four consecutive years in the national
    competitions of his new country, during which period he has neither
    transferred to another country nor played ice hockey within any other
    country and has not played for his previous country in an IIHF
    competition during this four year period.
  • He has an
    international transfer card (ITC) that shows the transfer to the
    national competition of his new country and which was approved and
    dated at least four years before the start of the IIHF competition in
    which he wishes to participate.

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http://www.iihf.com/channels/iihf-world-championship/home/iihf-eligibility.html


112010 USA Roster Empty Re: 2010 USA Roster on Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:17 pm

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What abut the IOC?


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122010 USA Roster Empty Re: 2010 USA Roster on Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:19 pm

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As for Andy Greene, all I know is that he gets 1st pairing minutes playing in defense-first New Jersey, and his stats (points, +/-) are better than Matt's.

Are they brothers?


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132010 USA Roster Empty Re: 2010 USA Roster on Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:20 pm

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No relation as far as I know.

It says Olympic hockey in the top paragraph, so I assume it applies to it as well.

Just to clarify further, I tried searching for IOC nationality eligibility and came across an article for Great Britain and Northern Ireland, but should apply to all Nationalities. It said if you hold dual citizenship or wish to change your nationality, you must wait 3 years before you can play for the new Nationality.

Myers' has a slightly better chance at making the US teams than Canada, but in a few years he could very well be the new Pronger for Canada.

142010 USA Roster Empty Re: 2010 USA Roster on Fri Jan 01, 2010 2:46 pm

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I would imagine Gionta makes the team as well.

152010 USA Roster Empty Re: 2010 USA Roster on Fri Jan 01, 2010 3:49 pm

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RobbyJ wrote:I would imagine Gionta makes the team as well.

Doubtful. They already have a fleet of undersized scoring forwards, I just don't see any place for him on the team when guys like Kessel, Kane, Drury, Gomez and Stastny are going to be featuring up front.

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