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16Jared Staal signs 3 year deal with Canes - Page 2 Empty Re: Jared Staal signs 3 year deal with Canes on Fri May 14, 2010 3:00 pm

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stempniaksen wrote:
Except that the letters on the back of his jersey spell out Staal.

Big deal. People make such a big deal about pedigree sometimes. This one ain't in the same league (well I guess technically he is) as his brothers.

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stempniaksen wrote:
Except that the letters on the back of his jersey spell out Staal.

Big deal. People make such a big deal about pedigree sometimes. This one ain't in the same league (well I guess technically he is) as his brothers.

Agreed. But people will always make a big deal about the whole pedigree angle (sometimes warranted, sometimes not).

18Jared Staal signs 3 year deal with Canes - Page 2 Empty Re: Jared Staal signs 3 year deal with Canes on Fri May 14, 2010 3:03 pm

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SensGirl11 wrote:How would he have re-entered the draft? Was he undrafted? I dont' understand that part. If he was already drafted wouldn't he just become a UFA, or is he too young for that?

I believe it would have been like Blake Wheeler - UFA.

19Jared Staal signs 3 year deal with Canes - Page 2 Empty Re: Jared Staal signs 3 year deal with Canes on Fri May 14, 2010 3:04 pm

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SensGirl11 wrote:How would he have re-entered the draft? Was he undrafted? I dont' understand that part. If he was already drafted wouldn't he just become a UFA, or is he too young for that?

I believe it would have been like Blake Wheeler - UFA.

Do you know why they said that he would re-enter the draft though? Was it just a mistake?

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Way too early to right him off. He's only 19. Even if his career potential is a 3rd/4th liner, it cost Carolina a 5th round pick. This could be the beginning of something huge for Carolina.

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SpezDispenser wrote:
SensGirl11 wrote:How would he have re-entered the draft? Was he undrafted? I dont' understand that part. If he was already drafted wouldn't he just become a UFA, or is he too young for that?

I believe it would have been like Blake Wheeler - UFA.

Do you know why they said that he would re-enter the draft though? Was it just a mistake?

Actually, players have re-entered the draft before. I think it's an age thing.

Matt Lombardi and Jarrett Stoll re-entered I believe.

There was talk that EDM 1st rounder Alex Plante would as well.

22Jared Staal signs 3 year deal with Canes - Page 2 Empty Re: Jared Staal signs 3 year deal with Canes on Fri May 14, 2010 3:12 pm

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This is the move that will catapult the 'Canes back into Cup contention. They have just become the favourites in the East.

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SeawaySensFan wrote:This is the move that will catapult the 'Canes back into Cup contention. They have just become the favourites in the East.

Would you go so far as to say the balance of power has shifted?


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24Jared Staal signs 3 year deal with Canes - Page 2 Empty Re: Jared Staal signs 3 year deal with Canes on Fri May 14, 2010 3:14 pm

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Cap'n Clutch wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:This is the move that will catapult the 'Canes back into Cup contention. They have just become the favourites in the East.

Would you go so far as to say the balance of power has shifted?

If I wanted to state the obvious, perhaps.

25Jared Staal signs 3 year deal with Canes - Page 2 Empty Re: Jared Staal signs 3 year deal with Canes on Fri May 14, 2010 3:20 pm

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SpezDispenser wrote:
stempniaksen wrote:
Except that the letters on the back of his jersey spell out Staal.

Big deal. People make such a big deal about pedigree sometimes. This one ain't in the same league (well I guess technically he is) as his brothers.

The Staals have been 3/3 in the NHL so far. I'd risk a 5th rounder on those odds.

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How is it that Phoenix and Carolina were aloud to make a trade without the SCP being over? Are you alowed to do it if it's minor leaguers?

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SensGirl11 wrote:How is it that Phoenix and Carolina were aloud to make a trade without the SCP being over? Are you alowed to do it if it's minor leaguers?

Technically, I'm pretty sure teams not in the playoffs can trade to their heart's content, regardless of what kind of player (i.e., NHLer, AHLer, etc.) might be involved.

28Jared Staal signs 3 year deal with Canes - Page 2 Empty Re: Jared Staal signs 3 year deal with Canes on Fri May 14, 2010 3:34 pm

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rooneypoo wrote:
SensGirl11 wrote:How is it that Phoenix and Carolina were aloud to make a trade without the SCP being over? Are you alowed to do it if it's minor leaguers?

Technically, I'm pretty sure teams not in the playoffs can trade to their heart's content, regardless of what kind of player (i.e., NHLer, AHLer, etc.) might be involved.

Hmmm. That doesn't seem fair.

29Jared Staal signs 3 year deal with Canes - Page 2 Empty Re: Jared Staal signs 3 year deal with Canes on Fri May 14, 2010 3:38 pm

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SensGirl11 wrote:
Do you know why they said that he would re-enter the draft though? Was it just a mistake?

Did they say that, okay, he's on his first contract, so he re-enters the draft I guess. Must be an age + contract status proviso. Intriguing. Thinking

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rooneypoo wrote:

The Staals have been 3/3 in the NHL so far. I'd risk a 5th rounder on those odds.

Sure, the risk/reward is huge (just don't count on it) Smile

31Jared Staal signs 3 year deal with Canes - Page 2 Empty Re: Jared Staal signs 3 year deal with Canes on Fri May 14, 2010 3:41 pm

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SpezDispenser wrote:
SensGirl11 wrote:
Do you know why they said that he would re-enter the draft though? Was it just a mistake?

Did they say that, okay, he's on his first contract, so he re-enters the draft I guess. Must be an age + contract status proviso. Intriguing. Thinking

There's a time frame in place to sign a player after you draft him. It's something like 2 or 3 years. If you draft a guy and don't sign him after that point, he re-enters the draft. A team can't hold a player hostage if they don't sign him.

32Jared Staal signs 3 year deal with Canes - Page 2 Empty Re: Jared Staal signs 3 year deal with Canes on Fri May 14, 2010 3:42 pm

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SpezDispenser wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:

The Staals have been 3/3 in the NHL so far. I'd risk a 5th rounder on those odds.

Sure, the risk/reward is huge (just don't count on it) Smile

It's like putting $3 bucks down on a Lotto649 ticket, but the odds are way better and your ticket has a family history of winning. Don't see any problem there.

33Jared Staal signs 3 year deal with Canes - Page 2 Empty Re: Jared Staal signs 3 year deal with Canes on Fri May 14, 2010 3:49 pm

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rooneypoo wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:
SensGirl11 wrote:
Do you know why they said that he would re-enter the draft though? Was it just a mistake?

Did they say that, okay, he's on his first contract, so he re-enters the draft I guess. Must be an age + contract status proviso. Intriguing. Jared Staal signs 3 year deal with Canes - Page 2 663118

There's a time frame in place to sign a player after you draft him. It's something like 2 or 3 years. If you draft a guy and don't sign him after that point, he re-enters the draft. A team can't hold a player hostage if they don't sign him.

That's why the Ottawa Senators drafted Simon Lajeunesse twice.

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