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Re: Sharks sign CHI's Hjalmarsson to offer sheet on Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:33 pm
Riprock
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SpezDispenser wrote:Kovalfie wrote:I hear Campoli could be had for cheap... Lee too!
Yeah, I bet it's on like Donkey Kong.
What, you think either or both of them might be of interest to Chicago if they lose Hjalmarsson?

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Re: Sharks sign CHI's Hjalmarsson to offer sheet on Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:45 pm
CockRoche
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Kovalfie wrote:I hear Campoli could be had for cheap... Lee too!
Not sure if you were referring to Campoli being had for a cheap off due to his RFA status, but Campoli can not be offered a contract by another team right now.
If you meant he can be had in a trade for cheap, ignore the rest of my post.
Campoli filed for arbitration therefore he can only negotiate with the Sens until his hearing. If Campoli's contract status makes it in front of the independent arbitrator, the arbitrator has 48 hours from the completion of the hearing to determine the value of the players contract. The team then has another 48 hours (or 48 hours after last hearing date if a team has more than one) to determine if they wish to retain that player or allow that player to become an unrestricted free agent. The team is only allowed to walk away from the players contract if the player requested the arbitration.
This didn't happen, but if the team requests salary arbitration, they are not allowed to walk away from the contract awarded by the arbitrator.
That is the Coles notes version of how the arbitration hearing system works.
Hope it helped clarify the RFA situation a bit.
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Re: Sharks sign CHI's Hjalmarsson to offer sheet on Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:52 pm
Guest
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CockRoche wrote:Kovalfie wrote:I hear Campoli could be had for cheap... Lee too!
Not sure if you were referring to Campoli being had for a cheap off due to his RFA status, but Campoli can not be offered a contract by another team right now.
If you meant he can be had in a trade for cheap, ignore the rest of my post.
Campoli filed for arbitration therefore he can only negotiate with the Sens until his hearing. If Campoli's contract status makes it in front of the independent arbitrator, the arbitrator has 48 hours from the completion of the hearing to determine the value of the players contract. The team then has another 48 hours (or 48 hours after last hearing date if a team has more than one) to determine if they wish to retain that player or allow that player to become an unrestricted free agent. The team is only allowed to walk away from the players contract if the player requested the arbitration.
This didn't happen, but if the team requests salary arbitration, they are not allowed to walk away from the contract awarded by the arbitrator.
That is the Coles notes version of how the arbitration hearing system works.
Hope it helped clarify the RFA situation a bit.
It was more intended to be a joke, but tailored to a trade scenario, but thanks for the clarification. I didn't know that about arbitration
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Re: Sharks sign CHI's Hjalmarsson to offer sheet on Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:03 pm
CockRoche

Veteran

Kovalfie wrote:CockRoche wrote:Kovalfie wrote:I hear Campoli could be had for cheap... Lee too!
Not sure if you were referring to Campoli being had for a cheap off due to his RFA status, but Campoli can not be offered a contract by another team right now.
If you meant he can be had in a trade for cheap, ignore the rest of my post.
Campoli filed for arbitration therefore he can only negotiate with the Sens until his hearing. If Campoli's contract status makes it in front of the independent arbitrator, the arbitrator has 48 hours from the completion of the hearing to determine the value of the players contract. The team then has another 48 hours (or 48 hours after last hearing date if a team has more than one) to determine if they wish to retain that player or allow that player to become an unrestricted free agent. The team is only allowed to walk away from the players contract if the player requested the arbitration.
This didn't happen, but if the team requests salary arbitration, they are not allowed to walk away from the contract awarded by the arbitrator.
That is the Coles notes version of how the arbitration hearing system works.
Hope it helped clarify the RFA situation a bit.
It was more intended to be a joke, but tailored to a trade scenario, but thanks for the clarification. I didn't know that about arbitration
Figured that, but just wanted to be sure. Glad I could help a little though.
Lee has definitely dropped waaaayyyyy down on the depth chart, but I like Campoli where he is, a 5 or 6 guy. He came into his own near the end of last year and played well for a long stretch of games. He showed us all why Murray made the trade that he did in giving up a late first rounder. I want to see more of Campoli this year.
Time will tell.
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Re: Sharks sign CHI's Hjalmarsson to offer sheet on Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:11 pm
PKC

All-Star

Question is: given Setoguchi's regression last year from a 60+ point player to a 30+ point player, will anyone be willing to offer him the kind of contract that would make sense financially?
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Re: Sharks sign CHI's Hjalmarsson to offer sheet on Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:16 pm
Riprock

All-Star

Answer: The Leafs
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Re: Sharks sign CHI's Hjalmarsson to offer sheet on Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:19 pm
PKC

All-Star

Dash wrote:Answer: The Leafs
After the stink that Burke raised over offer sheets a few years ago, I doubt they'd do it.
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Re: Sharks sign CHI's Hjalmarsson to offer sheet on Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:28 pm
Riprock

All-Star

They won't do an offer sheet though, because they lack the picks to make it hard for SJ to not match.
They would have to do it by trade. Surprised a Kaberle for Setoguchi type deal was never mentioned prior to Hjalmarsson.
They would have to do it by trade. Surprised a Kaberle for Setoguchi type deal was never mentioned prior to Hjalmarsson.
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Re: Sharks sign CHI's Hjalmarsson to offer sheet on Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:57 pm
SeawaySensFan

Franchise Player

PKC wrote:Dash wrote:Answer: The Leafs
After the stink that Burke raised over offer sheets a few years ago, I doubt they'd do it.
I think Jurke has since made an offer sheet and stated that his case was somehow different.
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Re: Sharks sign CHI's Hjalmarsson to offer sheet on Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:36 pm
wprager

Administrator

SeawaySensFan wrote:PKC wrote:Dash wrote:Answer: The Leafs
After the stink that Burke raised over offer sheets a few years ago, I doubt they'd do it.
I think Jurke has since made an offer sheet and stated that his case was somehow different.
I'm far from a fan of Burke, but his initial objection was not about the offer sheet but the size of the contract. He was 100% right,of course.
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Re: Sharks sign CHI's Hjalmarsson to offer sheet on Fri Jul 09, 2010 5:13 pm
SeawaySensFan

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wprager wrote:SeawaySensFan wrote:PKC wrote:Dash wrote:Answer: The Leafs
After the stink that Burke raised over offer sheets a few years ago, I doubt they'd do it.
I think Jurke has since made an offer sheet and stated that his case was somehow different.
I'm far from a fan of Burke, but his initial objection was not about the offer sheet but the size of the contract. He was 100% right,of course.
Are you TSNs James Dutchie?
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Re: Sharks sign CHI's Hjalmarsson to offer sheet on Fri Jul 09, 2010 5:59 pm
wprager

Administrator

No, but I like Tim Horton's dutchies. A lot.
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Re: Sharks sign CHI's Hjalmarsson to offer sheet on Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:00 pm
wprager

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Dash, by the way, did you alter that image in your avatar at all to make him look 7 foot tall?
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Re: Sharks sign CHI's Hjalmarsson to offer sheet on Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:05 pm
Riprock

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Nope, it's exactly how I found it, just a smaller scaling. I'd say it was taken with a wide-angle lens. And it is Gryba if you didn't know - 'hardest working player' at the development camp.
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Re: Sharks sign CHI's Hjalmarsson to offer sheet on Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:11 pm
wprager

Administrator

Honestly, I thought it was Cowen. Looks a lot like him when scaled down like that. I found the original picture, very nice.


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Re: Sharks sign CHI's Hjalmarsson to offer sheet on Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:19 pm
Riprock

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Does look like Cowen... same # too. Only difference is the Boston U jersey.
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Re: Sharks sign CHI's Hjalmarsson to offer sheet on Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:41 pm
PTFlea

Co-Founder

Oh man, I thought that was Cowen too.
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