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9612011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 65 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch on Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:53 am

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Big Ev wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
NEELY wrote:Either way, if they move up to get the number 1 prospect it will take the 6th overall, probably Chicago's 2nd, and Nashville's 3rd next year.

If Landeskog is 1st or 2nd on their list (which I think he is but no real proof) then the quality of the prospect is better than than the quantity of 2nd round picks. Pretty sure they can find a way to get the guys they really like in the 2nd round anyways. This draft is a fantastic year to build depth with sure shot NHLers, the depth is fantastic IMO.
oh I agree. we couldn't pick a better year to suck and rebuild. with me beeing out of the country unable to watch the team lose Sarcasm and the amount of good available players. I'm just trying to figure out how else we can get more picks.

I'd say next year is definitely a better year to suck and rebuild, but this year is fine as well.
we might get the chance to do just that also...

9622011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 65 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch on Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:54 am

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Big Ev wrote:Here's a wacky scenario:

Trade up to get Landeskog (6th overall, 2nd round (CHI), 3rd round).
Mark McNeill at 21.
Trade up to get Rocco Grimaldi (35th + BOS 2nd).

Boom, rebuild complete Sarcasm

That's a dream scenario, but not so far out of the relm of possibility it couldn't happen. McNeill with Ottawa's 21st would basically be a complete rebuild. In 5 years Ottawa could potentially have the nastiest 1st line in The NHL.

9632011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 65 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch on Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:54 am

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Flo The Action wrote:
Big Ev wrote:I'd say next year is definitely a better year to suck and rebuild, but this year is fine as well.
we might get the chance to do just that also...

It's never a good year to suck.

9642011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 65 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch on Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:55 am

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NEELY wrote:
Big Ev wrote:
NEELY wrote:
Big Ev wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:of strome:
He skates very well and has very good speed," NHL Central Scouting's Chris Edwards said of Strome, who's been compared favourably with rising Colorado Avalanche star Matt Duchene. "He's a creative playmaker who sees the ice very well. He goes to the net and battles in front. He is able to get to rebounds and loose pucks in front. He has good hands and has scored some goals off tip-ins in front (of the net)."
6'1 183 pounds. not bad size either. my money is on this kid if we draft 6th. If we don't pick him i'll be disappointed

Why? Fans shouldn't wish for any guy as they a) don't know how to actually scout players and b) they will most likely be disappointed. Most fans just go by stats and rankings, and then the actual team has their own completely different list. You always see fans wishing for a guy, Dung on the pick they actually get, and then cheer for that pick when they are doing well in the future.

Be happy with anyone they get.

Not ture as I am an exception to that. I wnet out with an NHL/OHL scouts daughter as well as him being my hockey coach. Def know what Scouts look for both the postitive and negative aspects.

I stand by my comment.

I would too on an internet forum, I could 100% be talking out of my Donkey.

and by fans, I'm talking about most non-connected fans like myself (although I feel I am pretty knowledgable when it comes to prospects, and I don't get caught up in rankings and hype).

Look at this prime example of a fan who thinks he knows what he's talking about:

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Columnists/Brennan/2008/06/21/5947311-sun.html

Not to be outdone by his wheeling-and-dealing counterparts, the Senators GM traded up three steps so he could take ... Erik Karlsson?

"Nice way to show your thanks to the fans for their support," said Brian Samuel, a regular ticket-buying customer at Scotiabank Place who was sitting in Level 2 wearing a Senators jersey and surrounded by his buddies in Leafs and Blackhawks colours.

"That's a garbage pick. They could have had him in the second round."

and a quote by Don Brennan:
Karlsson won't play in the NHL for a year or two or three, if he ever does. Real tough to get excited about him now.

That's a Cussing stupid quote. Most players picked at #15 won't be in the league for a year or two anyways. That's why they're picked at #15. Idiot.

Moral of the story, whoever they draft, wait a couple of years until you judge the pick, good or bad.

9652011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 65 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch on Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:57 am

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PS I'm not saying Flo the Action or anyone here is like that moron, lol

9662011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 65 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch on Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:58 am

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Big Ev wrote:Here's a wacky scenario:

Trade up to get Landeskog (6th overall, 2nd round (CHI), 3rd round).
Mark McNeill at 21.
Trade up to get Rocco Grimaldi (35th + BOS 2nd).

Boom, rebuild complete Sarcasm

Aren't they projecting Grimaldi to go where we pick at 21?

9672011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 65 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch on Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:59 am

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SpezDispenser wrote:
Big Ev wrote:Here's a wacky scenario:

Trade up to get Landeskog (6th overall, 2nd round (CHI), 3rd round).
Mark McNeill at 21.
Trade up to get Rocco Grimaldi (35th + BOS 2nd).

Boom, rebuild complete Sarcasm

Aren't they projecting Grimaldi to go where we pick at 21?

I would take McNeill over him 100% of the time and I like Grimaldi at 21.

9682011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 65 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch on Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:59 am

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Yeah, and the Editor of McKeen's called it the steal of the entire draft.

CheapShots Brennan is a fool.

9692011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 65 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch on Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:00 am

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Big Ev wrote:
NEELY wrote:
Big Ev wrote:
NEELY wrote:
Big Ev wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:of strome:
He skates very well and has very good speed," NHL Central Scouting's Chris Edwards said of Strome, who's been compared favourably with rising Colorado Avalanche star Matt Duchene. "He's a creative playmaker who sees the ice very well. He goes to the net and battles in front. He is able to get to rebounds and loose pucks in front. He has good hands and has scored some goals off tip-ins in front (of the net)."
6'1 183 pounds. not bad size either. my money is on this kid if we draft 6th. If we don't pick him i'll be disappointed

Why? Fans shouldn't wish for any guy as they a) don't know how to actually scout players and b) they will most likely be disappointed. Most fans just go by stats and rankings, and then the actual team has their own completely different list. You always see fans wishing for a guy, Dung on the pick they actually get, and then cheer for that pick when they are doing well in the future.

Be happy with anyone they get.

Not ture as I am an exception to that. I wnet out with an NHL/OHL scouts daughter as well as him being my hockey coach. Def know what Scouts look for both the postitive and negative aspects.

I stand by my comment.

I would too on an internet forum, I could 100% be talking out of my Donkey.

and by fans, I'm talking about most non-connected fans like myself (although I feel I am pretty knowledgable when it comes to prospects, and I don't get caught up in rankings and hype).

Look at this prime example of a fan who thinks he knows what he's talking about:

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Columnists/Brennan/2008/06/21/5947311-sun.html

Not to be outdone by his wheeling-and-dealing counterparts, the Senators GM traded up three steps so he could take ... Erik Karlsson?

"Nice way to show your thanks to the fans for their support," said Brian Samuel, a regular ticket-buying customer at Scotiabank Place who was sitting in Level 2 wearing a Senators jersey and surrounded by his buddies in Leafs and Blackhawks colours.

"That's a garbage pick. They could have had him in the second round."

and a quote by Don Brennan:
Karlsson won't play in the NHL for a year or two or three, if he ever does. Real tough to get excited about him now.

That's a Cussing stupid quote. Most players picked at #15 won't be in the league for a year or two anyways. That's why they're picked at #15. Idiot.

Moral of the story, whoever they draft, wait a couple of years until you judge the pick, good or bad.


Only reason I am connected is because I played hockey with a ton of guys who made it pretty far.

I agree though, 90% of fans don't have a clue.

9702011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 65 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch on Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:01 am

PTFlea

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NEELY wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:
Big Ev wrote:Here's a wacky scenario:

Trade up to get Landeskog (6th overall, 2nd round (CHI), 3rd round).
Mark McNeill at 21.
Trade up to get Rocco Grimaldi (35th + BOS 2nd).

Boom, rebuild complete Sarcasm

Aren't they projecting Grimaldi to go where we pick at 21?

I would take McNeill over him 100% of the time and I like Grimaldi at 21.

There are some mocks where McNeill is gone before the 11th pick, never happening at 21.

9712011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 65 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch on Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:01 am

Flo The Action

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Big Ev wrote:
NEELY wrote:
Big Ev wrote:
NEELY wrote:
Big Ev wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:of strome:
He skates very well and has very good speed," NHL Central Scouting's Chris Edwards said of Strome, who's been compared favourably with rising Colorado Avalanche star Matt Duchene. "He's a creative playmaker who sees the ice very well. He goes to the net and battles in front. He is able to get to rebounds and loose pucks in front. He has good hands and has scored some goals off tip-ins in front (of the net)."
6'1 183 pounds. not bad size either. my money is on this kid if we draft 6th. If we don't pick him i'll be disappointed

Why? Fans shouldn't wish for any guy as they a) don't know how to actually scout players and b) they will most likely be disappointed. Most fans just go by stats and rankings, and then the actual team has their own completely different list. You always see fans wishing for a guy, Dung on the pick they actually get, and then cheer for that pick when they are doing well in the future.

Be happy with anyone they get.

Not ture as I am an exception to that. I wnet out with an NHL/OHL scouts daughter as well as him being my hockey coach. Def know what Scouts look for both the postitive and negative aspects.

I stand by my comment.

I would too on an internet forum, I could 100% be talking out of my Donkey.

and by fans, I'm talking about most non-connected fans like myself (although I feel I am pretty knowledgable when it comes to prospects, and I don't get caught up in rankings and hype).

Look at this prime example of a fan who thinks he knows what he's talking about:

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Columnists/Brennan/2008/06/21/5947311-sun.html

Not to be outdone by his wheeling-and-dealing counterparts, the Senators GM traded up three steps so he could take ... Erik Karlsson?

"Nice way to show your thanks to the fans for their support," said Brian Samuel, a regular ticket-buying customer at Scotiabank Place who was sitting in Level 2 wearing a Senators jersey and surrounded by his buddies in Leafs and Blackhawks colours.

"That's a garbage pick. They could have had him in the second round."

and a quote by Don Brennan:
Karlsson won't play in the NHL for a year or two or three, if he ever does. Real tough to get excited about him now.

That's a Cussing stupid quote. Most players picked at #15 won't be in the league for a year or two anyways. That's why they're picked at #15. Idiot.

Moral of the story, whoever they draft, wait a couple of years until you judge the pick, good or bad.

somebody should email Brennan with that quote. i' sure there's enough idiocy coming from him to publish a book.

9722011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 65 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch on Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:02 am

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I see McNeill as a 15th pick or so, but he really was pretty awful in his interviews with Ottawa. Don't know if people care aboutt hat a lot.

9732011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 65 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch on Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:04 am

Flo The Action

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Big Ev wrote:PS I'm not saying Flo the Action or anyone here is like that moron, lol
you may call me as commoners do "Flo"

9742011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 65 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch on Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:05 am

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Big Ev wrote:I see McNeill as a 15th pick or so, but he really was pretty awful in his interviews with Ottawa. Don't know if people care aboutt hat a lot.

I like that Boone Jenner kid.

9752011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 65 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch on Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:06 am

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That Don Brennan article is epic... wow... how does he still have a job...

9762011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 65 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch on Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:07 am

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shabbs wrote:That Don Brennan article is epic... wow... how does he still have a job...

I think he's drinkin' buddies with the Sports Editor. Cheers

9772011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 65 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch on Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:08 am

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I think McNeil goes in the top 10, if not 10, 11. Unless he said he would rape people's daughters to the other GM's, no way do guys pass up on the offense and size combo.

9782011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 65 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch on Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:08 am

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Oleksiak... just read a little more about him and when they said "Zdeno Chara like size" I perked up.

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