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16Nabokov - Page 2 Empty Re: Nabokov on Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:26 am

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I was just suggesting that if another team claims him and he doesn't report, he won't be playing for anyone this year. Detroit included.

Yep, you're bang on.

17Nabokov - Page 2 Empty Re: Nabokov on Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:13 am

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tim1_2 wrote:
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tim1_2 wrote:
EDIT: As per Bob McKenzie's Twitter: Keep in mind, if Nabokov is claimed by a team and Nabokov doesn't like the situation, he can simply refuse to report and not play this year.

So this would mean that he would not play for the Wings either I would imagine right?

I'm not sure what you mean? He obviously is prepared to play in Detroit, or we would not have signed with them.

Apparently Nabokov's agent sent a fax around to all the GMs saying Nabokov was only interested in playing on a contender.

I was just suggesting that if another team claims him and he doesn't report, he won't be playing for anyone this year. Detroit included.

Yeah, interesting scenario. He wants to be a starter his agent said, so any team picking him up would have to jettison their starter to backup - like Bobrovsky in Philly who's doing pretty well. Washington would be the target IMO, Varlemov is young enough that it's not a complete slap in the face. Are we missing a contender?

18Nabokov - Page 2 Empty Re: Nabokov on Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:17 am

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SensGirl11 wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:
SensGirl11 wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:
EDIT: As per Bob McKenzie's Twitter: Keep in mind, if Nabokov is claimed by a team and Nabokov doesn't like the situation, he can simply refuse to report and not play this year.

So this would mean that he would not play for the Wings either I would imagine right?

I'm not sure what you mean? He obviously is prepared to play in Detroit, or we would not have signed with them.

Apparently Nabokov's agent sent a fax around to all the GMs saying Nabokov was only interested in playing on a contender.

I was just suggesting that if another team claims him and he doesn't report, he won't be playing for anyone this year. Detroit included.

Yeah, interesting scenario. He wants to be a starter his agent said, so any team picking him up would have to jettison their starter to backup - like Bobrovsky in Philly who's doing pretty well. Washington would be the target IMO, Varlemov is young enough that it's not a complete slap in the face. Are we missing a contender?


Tampa?

19Nabokov - Page 2 Empty Re: Nabokov on Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:23 am

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Yeah, Tampa's a good call. Roloson is way too inconsistent IMO.

20Nabokov - Page 2 Empty Re: Nabokov on Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:30 am

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SensGirl11 wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:
SensGirl11 wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:
EDIT: As per Bob McKenzie's Twitter: Keep in mind, if Nabokov is claimed by a team and Nabokov doesn't like the situation, he can simply refuse to report and not play this year.

So this would mean that he would not play for the Wings either I would imagine right?

I'm not sure what you mean? He obviously is prepared to play in Detroit, or we would not have signed with them.

Apparently Nabokov's agent sent a fax around to all the GMs saying Nabokov was only interested in playing on a contender.

That's fair, it doesn't mean they have to listen though.

EDIT: I don't think Nabokov cares either way, if he can't play this year he'll sign somewhere next year. Only problem for him is that the money could be less because no one got to see him play this year. He's playing with fire a little by doing that, IMO.

Just for that, I'd claim him then waive Leclaire

21Nabokov - Page 2 Empty Re: Nabokov on Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:31 am

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SensGirl11 wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:
SensGirl11 wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:
EDIT: As per Bob McKenzie's Twitter: Keep in mind, if Nabokov is claimed by a team and Nabokov doesn't like the situation, he can simply refuse to report and not play this year.

So this would mean that he would not play for the Wings either I would imagine right?

I'm not sure what you mean? He obviously is prepared to play in Detroit, or we would not have signed with them.

Apparently Nabokov's agent sent a fax around to all the GMs saying Nabokov was only interested in playing on a contender.

That's fair, it doesn't mean they have to listen though.

EDIT: I don't think Nabokov cares either way, if he can't play this year he'll sign somewhere next year. Only problem for him is that the money could be less because no one got to see him play this year. He's playing with fire a little by doing that, IMO.

Just for that, I'd claim him then waive Leclaire

Actually, I wonder if Ottawa could use that to get a favor from anyone; I won't claim if you ... Nod

22Nabokov - Page 2 Empty Re: Nabokov on Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:36 am

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Yep, Tampa could be interested to claim him. I think Philly and Washington NEED him the most, but San Jose, Tampa, Chicago, and Colorado could be in the running here as well.

23Nabokov - Page 2 Empty Re: Nabokov on Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:40 am

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It doesn't matter "who's in the running"; it's based on current team ranking ... we're right up there Smile

24Nabokov - Page 2 Empty Re: Nabokov on Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:43 am

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TheAvatar wrote:It doesn't matter "who's in the running"; it's based on current team ranking ... we're right up there Nabokov - Page 2 54934

Yep, we're 4th for picking.

25Nabokov - Page 2 Empty Re: Nabokov on Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:51 am

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Just a thought, but why don't we claim him and then trade him to the Wings for a low round draft pick (5th or 6th)or something?


We'd actually be doing Detroit a favour as there's NO WAY a Western Team won't claim him JUST to screw the Wings over.

Call up Holland and set it Murray you shrewd GM you!

26Nabokov - Page 2 Empty Re: Nabokov on Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:52 am

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You can't claim and trade without offering him to everyone else that put in a claim.

27Nabokov - Page 2 Empty Re: Nabokov on Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:56 am

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You can't do that because they put a no movement clause in the signing. and he'd have to go through waivers again as Shabbs mentioned.

28Nabokov - Page 2 Empty Re: Nabokov on Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:57 am

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shabbs wrote:You can't claim and trade without offering him to everyone else that put in a claim.

By the rules? If we claim him, he's ours.

Or are you suggesting we shop his rights around to the highest bidder?

29Nabokov - Page 2 Empty Re: Nabokov on Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:01 am

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I can guarantee we will not claim him, for reasons I already stated.

30Nabokov - Page 2 Empty Re: Nabokov on Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:01 am

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BigRig wrote:
shabbs wrote:You can't claim and trade without offering him to everyone else that put in a claim.

By the rules? If we claim him, he's ours.

Or are you suggesting we shop his rights around to the highest bidder?
By the rules of the CBA.

If you claim a player off waivers like that, before you can trade them (assuming they don't have a NTC or have waived it) you first have to offer them to all the other teams that put in a claim. If none of those teams want the player, then you can trade the player.

31Nabokov - Page 2 Empty Re: Nabokov on Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:02 am

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SensGirl11 wrote:You can't do that because they put a no movement clause in the signing. and he'd have to go through waivers again as Shabbs mentioned.


Wouldn't a No movement clause simply enable the player to waive or not depending on the Team they'd be going to? (Honest question, no sarcasm implied)

I'm sure I've seen Teams do that type of move before...if not, then that's too bad

32Nabokov - Page 2 Empty Re: Nabokov on Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:04 am

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shabbs wrote:
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shabbs wrote:You can't claim and trade without offering him to everyone else that put in a claim.

By the rules? If we claim him, he's ours.

Or are you suggesting we shop his rights around to the highest bidder?
By the rules of the CBA.

If you claim a player off waivers like that, before you can trade them (assuming they don't have a NTC or have waived it) you first have to offer them to all the other teams that put in a claim. If none of those teams want the player, then you can trade the player.

Understood. So then, what if we claim him and he comes in and plays for us until the trade deadline at which time we trade him...would the waiver wire scenario still apply?

33Nabokov - Page 2 Empty Re: Nabokov on Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:05 am

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It applies for the rest of the season. So, doing that would make no sense as his contract would expire since it's a 1-year deal.

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