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    Re: New rules for new members

    Post by wprager on Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:14 pm

    Hockeyhero22000 wrote: How wold one go about getting sponsered

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    Re: New rules for new members

    Post by Hoff-Machine on Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:16 pm

    hmm I'm gonna agree with spader (and to an extent, penguins fanboy). You're just driving more ppl away and if I also had to enter my corporate email at the time of registration, then I wouldn't join

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    Re: New rules for new members

    Post by wprager on Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:17 pm

    Big Ev wrote:
    rooneypoo wrote:
    Big Ev wrote:I wouldn't use a work e-mail or school e-mail because I don't want it flooded with those ridiculous reply notifications.

    LOL. Cussing awesome profile pic. I just watched that episode a few weeks ago.



    Haha, sorry a bit off topic Sarcasm

    Not off topic at all. The picture illustrates a new member being sponsored by two existing ones. You can fill-in the names of the two from your foes list.
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    Re: New rules for new members

    Post by spader on Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:19 pm

    wprager wrote:
    spader wrote:
    SpezDispenser wrote:From here on, we will need new members to:

    a) [1] be sponsored by an existing member who's been active with GMHockey as a poster for at *least* 6 months. If we don't recognize the sponsor, we as Admins have the right to decline the new member based on that alone.

    b)no hotmail accounts, real e-mail accounts only. Reduces any risks of members joining to spam etc.

    So that's that then, something we've been talking about for a while now has come into effect - if for no other reason than [2] to protect the site from any kind of malicious and/or predatory behavior.

    borrowing Roche's style here...

    [1] doesn't that limit new membership fairly severely? I came across this site in a google search (and signed up with my hotmail, the only email i have). I wouldn't be here if you'd passed these rules a year and a half ago. Don't we want more people coming to the boards?

    [2] is that a danger? Did I miss something, or are we just protecting against the possibilityof someone spamming and/or preying on our vulnerable membership?

    I don't get it. Wouldn't it be easy for a mod to toss someone that's being a Richard? Why do we have to be an exclusive club?




    Good point.

    The registration page has not changed yet, and the registration process is not going to change without changes to the code (i.e. not going to happen). So, at the end of the day, the registration request will have to be processed by a mod. If we enforce the no-free-email rule we should be OK, I think.

    We also have a facebook account now. Maybe Dash can figure out a way of using that, somehow, to vet new members?
    All that I know is that new members seem to show up organically. We've had a few people join recently (tim, sandy, 22, etc) and we'd be a far less interesting site if we take that organic growth out of the equation. I don't go around talking about this site to everyone I know that loves hockey. I may mention it, but I'm sure not looking for people to sponsor.

    Unless something happened that I missed (I keep thinking of the perverts that infiltrated the social networking aspect of Dunder Mifflin's website), then I don't understand why we have to protect ourselves from the evil internet spammers and predators that will surely snatch up our children and eat our brains. Simply put, I don't think that we need to protect our membership from cyberthreats. Seems unnecessary and counter-productive.
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    Re: New rules for new members

    Post by wprager on Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:20 pm

    Michallica wrote:hmm I'm gonna agree with spader (and to an extent, penguins fanboy). You're just driving more ppl away and if I also had to enter my corporate email at the time of registration, then I wouldn't join

    Let me repeat, the corporate e-mail would only be used for the initial exchange with a mod, it would not go into your profile.

    That has to be *clearly* indicated in the Registration page text.


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    Re: New rules for new members

    Post by Hoff-Machine on Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:22 pm

    wprager wrote:
    Michallica wrote:hmm I'm gonna agree with spader (and to an extent, penguins fanboy). You're just driving more ppl away and if I also had to enter my corporate email at the time of registration, then I wouldn't join

    Let me repeat, the corporate e-mail would only be used for the initial exchange with a mod, it would not go into your profile.

    That has to be *clearly* indicated in the Registration page text.

    but you still require my corporate email as the absolute first email entered right? I don't want my corporate email entered at all.....anywhere....ever.
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    Re: New rules for new members

    Post by rooneypoo on Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:23 pm

    spader wrote:
    wprager wrote:
    spader wrote:
    SpezDispenser wrote:From here on, we will need new members to:

    a) [1] be sponsored by an existing member who's been active with GMHockey as a poster for at *least* 6 months. If we don't recognize the sponsor, we as Admins have the right to decline the new member based on that alone.

    b)no hotmail accounts, real e-mail accounts only. Reduces any risks of members joining to spam etc.

    So that's that then, something we've been talking about for a while now has come into effect - if for no other reason than [2] to protect the site from any kind of malicious and/or predatory behavior.

    borrowing Roche's style here...

    [1] doesn't that limit new membership fairly severely? I came across this site in a google search (and signed up with my hotmail, the only email i have). I wouldn't be here if you'd passed these rules a year and a half ago. Don't we want more people coming to the boards?

    [2] is that a danger? Did I miss something, or are we just protecting against the possibilityof someone spamming and/or preying on our vulnerable membership?

    I don't get it. Wouldn't it be easy for a mod to toss someone that's being a Richard? Why do we have to be an exclusive club?




    Good point.

    The registration page has not changed yet, and the registration process is not going to change without changes to the code (i.e. not going to happen). So, at the end of the day, the registration request will have to be processed by a mod. If we enforce the no-free-email rule we should be OK, I think.

    We also have a facebook account now. Maybe Dash can figure out a way of using that, somehow, to vet new members?
    All that I know is that new members seem to show up organically. We've had a few people join recently (tim, sandy, 22, etc) and we'd be a far less interesting site if we take that organic growth out of the equation. I don't go around talking about this site to everyone I know that loves hockey. I may mention it, but I'm sure not looking for people to sponsor.

    Unless something happened that I missed (I keep thinking of the perverts that infiltrated the social networking aspect of Dunder Mifflin's website), then I don't understand why we have to protect ourselves from the evil internet spammers and predators that will surely snatch up our children and eat our brains. Simply put, I don't think that we need to protect our membership from cyberthreats. Seems unnecessary and counter-productive.
    [b]

    Something did happen that you missed. And I'm begging the mods to make it know what that something was.
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    Re: New rules for new members

    Post by TheAvatar on Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:29 pm

    Michallica wrote:
    wprager wrote:
    Michallica wrote:hmm I'm gonna agree with spader (and to an extent, penguins fanboy). You're just driving more ppl away and if I also had to enter my corporate email at the time of registration, then I wouldn't join

    Let me repeat, the corporate e-mail would only be used for the initial exchange with a mod, it would not go into your profile.

    That has to be *clearly* indicated in the Registration page text.

    but you still require my corporate email as the absolute first email entered right? I don't want my corporate email entered at all.....anywhere....ever.

    That is completely legitimate. Bank account or credit numbers can be used in lieu of corporate email address! :skater:
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    Re: New rules for new members

    Post by wprager on Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:30 pm

    We have no way to verify bank accounts and credit card numbers, unless we start charging for membership. You sure you want to go that way? I'm sure the co-founders would not be completely against that idea Smile


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    Re: New rules for new members

    Post by Hockeyhero22000 on Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:31 pm

    wprager wrote:
    Hockeyhero22000 wrote: How wold one go about getting sponsered

    Hello.


    My name is John.


    It's been three weeks since I've posted on a message board.


    ok im an totally ignorant of how this is going to work so when the mods allow someone do they then ask someone ( i assume we get a list of people who want to be sponsers) if they will be the sponser for said new individual?
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    Re: New rules for new members

    Post by wprager on Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:41 pm

    Hockeyhero22000 wrote:
    wprager wrote:
    Hockeyhero22000 wrote: How wold one go about getting sponsered

    Hello.


    My name is John.


    It's been three weeks since I've posted on a message board.


    ok im an totally ignorant of how this is going to work so when the mods allow someone do they then ask someone ( i assume we get a list of people who want to be sponsers) if they will be the sponser for said new individual?

    The process has not changed. The new user applies and a mod has to approve that application. The process will change, somewhat. If an existing member PMs the mods (by the way, we really should configure a "user group" for mods to simplify PMing them all en masse) and says "My buddy so-and-so wants to join; his e-mail address is xxx" then when a mod sees a person matching that description signing up, they can quickly process the application. If not, then it may take a bit longer.

    I don't have all the answers (hey, deja vu) but I'm sure we will figure it out.


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    Re: New rules for new members

    Post by Hockeyhero22000 on Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:45 pm

    wprager wrote:
    Hockeyhero22000 wrote:
    wprager wrote:
    Hockeyhero22000 wrote: How wold one go about getting sponsered

    Hello.


    My name is John.


    It's been three weeks since I've posted on a message board.


    ok im an totally ignorant of how this is going to work so when the mods allow someone do they then ask someone ( i assume we get a list of people who want to be sponsers) if they will be the sponser for said new individual?

    The process has not changed. The new user applies and a mod has to approve that application. The process will change, somewhat. If an existing member PMs the mods (by the way, we really should configure a "user group" for mods to simplify PMing them all en masse) and says "My buddy so-and-so wants to join; his e-mail address is xxx" then when a mod sees a person matching that description signing up, they can quickly process the application. If not, then it may take a bit longer.

    I don't have all the answers (hey, deja vu) but I'm sure we will figure it out.

    ok i get that but i know myself and others are randoms that found our way here through other uses of the internet no through members how would they get into the site? example i found this site through clutches shamelessness on HB where he often would post for good hockey talk come to gmhockey(or something) now he doesnt do that but spader (i believe) found it from google how do we get these good people weeded out from the jerks
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    Re: New rules for new members

    Post by Hockeyhero22000 on Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:46 pm

    I am not trying to cause problem but am trying to understand how the sponsership works
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    Re: New rules for new members

    Post by Hoff-Machine on Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:47 pm

    rooneypoo wrote:
    Something did happen that you missed. And I'm begging the mods to make it know what that something was.

    I bet it was me...I was trying to sell tickets for saturday's game today Sarcasm
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    Re: New rules for new members

    Post by spader on Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:49 pm

    Hockeyhero22000 wrote:
    wprager wrote:
    Hockeyhero22000 wrote:
    wprager wrote:
    Hockeyhero22000 wrote: How wold one go about getting sponsered

    Hello.


    My name is John.


    It's been three weeks since I've posted on a message board.


    ok im an totally ignorant of how this is going to work so when the mods allow someone do they then ask someone ( i assume we get a list of people who want to be sponsers) if they will be the sponser for said new individual?

    The process has not changed. The new user applies and a mod has to approve that application. The process will change, somewhat. If an existing member PMs the mods (by the way, we really should configure a "user group" for mods to simplify PMing them all en masse) and says "My buddy so-and-so wants to join; his e-mail address is xxx" then when a mod sees a person matching that description signing up, they can quickly process the application. If not, then it may take a bit longer.

    I don't have all the answers (hey, deja vu) but I'm sure we will figure it out.

    ok i get that but i know myself and others are randoms that found our way here through other uses of the internet no through members how would they get into the site? example i found this site through clutches shamelessness on HB where he often would post for good hockey talk come to gmhockey(or something) now he doesnt do that but spader (i believe) found it from google how do we get these good people weeded out from the jerks

    Pretty sure that's a compliment. Thanks HH. TipHat
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    Re: New rules for new members

    Post by Hockeyhero22000 on Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:51 pm

    spader wrote:
    Hockeyhero22000 wrote:
    wprager wrote:
    Hockeyhero22000 wrote:
    wprager wrote:
    Hockeyhero22000 wrote: How wold one go about getting sponsered

    Hello.


    My name is John.


    It's been three weeks since I've posted on a message board.


    ok im an totally ignorant of how this is going to work so when the mods allow someone do they then ask someone ( i assume we get a list of people who want to be sponsers) if they will be the sponser for said new individual?

    The process has not changed. The new user applies and a mod has to approve that application. The process will change, somewhat. If an existing member PMs the mods (by the way, we really should configure a "user group" for mods to simplify PMing them all en masse) and says "My buddy so-and-so wants to join; his e-mail address is xxx" then when a mod sees a person matching that description signing up, they can quickly process the application. If not, then it may take a bit longer.

    I don't have all the answers (hey, deja vu) but I'm sure we will figure it out.

    ok i get that but i know myself and others are randoms that found our way here through other uses of the internet no through members how would they get into the site? example i found this site through clutches shamelessness on HB where he often would post for good hockey talk come to gmhockey(or something) now he doesnt do that but spader (i believe) found it from google how do we get these good people weeded out from the jerks

    Pretty sure that's a compliment. Thanks HH. TipHat

    definately is you always have good comments and add to the conversation
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    Re: New rules for new members

    Post by wprager on Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:56 pm

    Hockeyhero22000 wrote:I am not trying to cause problem but am trying to understand how the sponsership works

    I don't think sponsorship is essential, it will just speed things along.


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    Re: New rules for new members

    Post by Hockeyhero22000 on Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:07 pm

    wprager wrote:
    Hockeyhero22000 wrote:I am not trying to cause problem but am trying to understand how the sponsership works

    I don't think sponsorship is essential, it will just speed things along.

    well i just want to understand how everything works

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