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    Re: You Call 'em

    Post by Hoff-Machine on Sat Aug 27, 2011 3:38 am

    Dash wrote:
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    Michallica wrote:sorry to be buzz killington here, but if we have 4 different 20-goal scorers as many are projecting, shouldn't we be talking playoffs and not Nail Yakupov?

    Leafs had four 20+ goal scorers. That got them a 21st overall finish.

    And if i recall, they were in playoff contention thanks to late surge with the addition of reimer. they didnt get eliminated till the last week iirc

    Still changes nothing... four 20+ goal scorers and no playoffs, thus the argument that multiple 20 goal scorers does not mean playoffs holds true.

    i said playoff contention, not making the playoffs. Talking about playoffs is at the opposite end of the nail yakupov spectrum, which was my point

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    Re: You Call 'em

    Post by LeCaptain on Sat Aug 27, 2011 6:26 am

    wprager wrote:
    NEELY wrote:If Butler and Filatov can get a combined 40 goals between them, we will be talking about the playoffs and The Sens come March and April. If a guy like Greening can put in 15-20, we might be talking about the playoffs.

    It breaks down like this IMO, if the top 6 in Ottawa can scorer 120-140 goals, The Sens will be able to sneek in. You will probably get 45-50 goals from the blueline assuming Karlsson and Gonchar can somehow get 20-25 between them. The 3rd and 4th lines, if they can get you 40-50 goals as well, that's what they will need.

    So you are looking at on the low end 205 goals, MAYBE that gets them in if Anderson plays the way Thomas did last year. On the high end, 240 goals will get The Sens in without much trouble. If they can score over 220 goals I think they make it. If not, it's a stretch.

    There's one part of that I don't get. 45-50 goals from the blueline, when Karlsson and Gonchar get 20-25 between them. That's 25 goals for Phillips/Lee and Kuba/Carkner/Lee. Phillips used to get around 5 goals playing as a top-pairing guy. I don't expect more than 5-8 goals from the two of them. Kuba/Carkner would probably be even less.

    Philips: 5
    Kuba: 5
    Lee: 3
    Carkner: 2
    Rundblad: 5
    Cowen: 2
    Borowiecki/Gryba: 2

    Total: 24

    There will be 8-9 D playing, with injuries/trade etc (like every year), so it's possible.

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    Re: You Call 'em

    Post by PTFlea on Sat Aug 27, 2011 12:21 pm

    In relation to the NFL, the Sens want to be TB this year. Young, but shock teams and win their fair share on work ethic + Anderson. The goals are gonna be hard to come by, but we're likely not gonna let teams waltz into our zone and score at will - especially with guys like Greening, Condra, Z.Smith, et. all finally getting their full chance to show what they can do over a year. And Anderson, always back to him in the end.
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    Re: You Call 'em

    Post by spader on Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:33 pm

    I didn't realize until today that Chirp posted his prediction for Alfie a few days ago.

    2011/2012 PROJECTION- 68 GP 25 G 32 A 57 PTS

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    Re: You Call 'em

    Post by sens4win on Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:40 pm

    spader wrote:I didn't realize until today that Chirp posted his prediction for Alfie a few days ago.

    2011/2012 PROJECTION- 68 GP 25 G 32 A 57 PTS

    Discuss.
    Seems pretty accurate as long as he stays healthy, considering he will probably be playing less minutes/playing on the second line, Id say closer to the lower half of 50 points.
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    Re: You Call 'em

    Post by wprager on Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:39 pm

    I'll make a bold prediction that Alfie will be on the top line and top PP unit, but will play far less PK time. He'll get 28/45/73 in 75 games.


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    Re: You Call 'em

    Post by spader on Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:25 pm

    wprager wrote:I'll make a bold prediction that Alfie will be on the top line and top PP unit, but will play far less PK time. He'll get 28/45/73 in 75 games.

    That is bold. Here's hoping you're right.
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    Re: You Call 'em

    Post by wprager on Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:48 pm

    spader wrote:
    wprager wrote:I'll make a bold prediction that Alfie will be on the top line and top PP unit, but will play far less PK time. He'll get 28/45/73 in 75 games.

    That is bold. Here's hoping you're right.

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    Re: You Call 'em

    Post by wprager on Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:49 pm

    ... or


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    Re: You Call 'em

    Post by shabbs on Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:07 pm

    wprager wrote:
    spader wrote:
    wprager wrote:I'll make a bold prediction that Alfie will be on the top line and top PP unit, but will play far less PK time. He'll get 28/45/73 in 75 games.

    That is bold. Here's hoping you're right.

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    Post by PTFlea on Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:17 am

    wprager wrote:I'll make a bold prediction that Alfie will be on the top line and top PP unit, but will play far less PK time. He'll get 28/45/73 in 75 games.

    I agree to be honest. I think that's exactly what's gonna happen and very close to precisely the amount of points I would predict him at. I'd lean more towards mid-60s, but I think he'll be more effective than most think.

    That said, I want to tone down my expectations for a lot of guys. It'll be a rough year offensively again presumably, so that's ripple through to Alfie as well - if he's even healthy.
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    Re: You Call 'em

    Post by Ev on Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:44 am

    Rocket Richard goes to Kovalchuk
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    Re: You Call 'em

    Post by wprager on Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:57 am

    SpezDispenser wrote:
    wprager wrote:I'll make a bold prediction that Alfie will be on the top line and top PP unit, but will play far less PK time. He'll get 28/45/73 in 75 games.

    I agree to be honest. I think that's exactly what's gonna happen and very close to precisely the amount of points I would predict him at. I'd lean more towards mid-60s, but I think he'll be more effective than most think.

    That said, I want to tone down my expectations for a lot of guys. It'll be a rough year offensively again presumably, so that's ripple through to Alfie as well - if he's even healthy.

    We could be wrong, but if you think of it, pairing up a rookie with a vet to bring him along is, perhaps, something you do when you have a stacked team and you do that on the third line. Perhaps what the Sens need more is not production this year (like, who cares, since they'll be golfing in April) but building chemistry for next season. So load up your top line with Spezza, Alfie and Michalek (that also takes some heat off the 2nd/3rd lines) and let the chips fall where they may. Yes, Im even advocating moving Butler away from Spezza.

    Michalek - Spezza - Alfredsson
    Filatov - Regin/Zibanejad/DaCosta - Butler
    Foligno/Greening - Smith - Condra
    Greening/Foligno - Konopka - Neil

    I hate putting either Foligno or Greening on the 4th line but someone's gotta go there. And, yes, Winchester isn't in there. Perhaps I should throw him into that dog's breakfast at 2C. I really, really want Zibanejad to make the team, even if that means slotting Winchester or Smith at 2C and starting Zibanejad at 3rd. Zibanejad also plays the wing, though, doesn't he?



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    Re: You Call 'em

    Post by Riprock on Sat Sep 03, 2011 9:53 am

    I think "Jumbo" Joe Thornton's gonna win the Art Ross. I'm hoping Rick Nash wins the Rocket.
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    Re: You Call 'em

    Post by Hoff-Machine on Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:07 am

    shabbs wrote:
    wprager wrote:
    spader wrote:
    wprager wrote:I'll make a bold prediction that Alfie will be on the top line and top PP unit, but will play far less PK time. He'll get 28/45/73 in 75 games.

    That is bold. Here's hoping you're right.

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    Re: You Call 'em

    Post by SensGirl11 on Sat Sep 03, 2011 1:23 pm

    Dash wrote:I think "Jumbo" Joe Thornton's gonna win the Art Ross. I'm hoping Rick Nash wins the Rocket.

    +1, I think Nash has a good shot of putting it all together and scoring 50.
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    Post by SensGirl11 on Sat Sep 03, 2011 1:23 pm

    ^That's SD up there, I'm logged in as SG Smile
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    Re: You Call 'em

    Post by shabbs on Sat Sep 03, 2011 1:27 pm

    Michallica wrote:
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