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    Re: I need a new TV, HELP!

    Post by Ev on Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:34 am

    I just used new calibration settings that i found on AVS forums for my 42LK520. It looks so much darker now. I guess I have to get used to it.

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    Post by tim1_2 on Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:21 am

    Peggy wrote:I just used new calibration settings that i found on AVS forums for my 42LK520. It looks so much darker now. I guess I have to get used to it.

    Ugh. Set your TV to settings you can enjoy. Starting with the "pro" calibration settings isn't a bad idea, but there's no sense in diminishing your own enjoyment because of what the "pros" say are the "ideal" settings.

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    Re: I need a new TV, HELP!

    Post by wprager on Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:26 am

    tim1_2 wrote:
    Peggy wrote:I just used new calibration settings that i found on AVS forums for my 42LK520. It looks so much darker now. I guess I have to get used to it.

    Ugh. Set your TV to settings you can enjoy. Starting with the "pro" calibration settings isn't a bad idea, but there's no sense in diminishing your own enjoyment because of what the "pros" say are the "ideal" settings.

    Any real calibration has to be done in the specific environment. In fact you could/should even calibrate differently for dayimte vs. nighttime viewing (many TVs will let you save a number of custom settings so you can flip back and forth between them). So whatever someone posted in AVS forum may work for them, but your TV is not sitting in their livingroom. Sure, start with those, but do your own calibration (or pay someone to do it for you -- $$$).

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    Re: I need a new TV, HELP!

    Post by Hoags on Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:31 am

    tim1_2 wrote:
    I never really noticed any image retention on mine, but I never really looked for it. The pixel orbiter is a good feature worth using just as a precaution.

    I have owned my set since February-ish, and never took any measures to "break-in" my set, or adjust the brightness/contrast down. I think that's a bunch of overblown crap that is preached by some "enthusiasts".

    What are your settings at? I used the "Sports" preset, and then set contrast to something around 95 and brightness to something around 55 (can't remember exactly). Also, ensure you have the "Energy Saving" totally turned off. It'll darken your picture.

    Are you having any problems with reflections on the screen (from lights/sun, etc)? I adjusted the lighting setup in my basement a little so I wouldn't get reflections, as that is the only real drawback with plasmas.

    Enjoy your TV!!!
    Reflections are pretty bad. My basement window doesnt face the TV at all so I only get reflections from the lights on the ceiling. I'm thinking of setting up a lamp or torchere behind the TV for some ambient lighting that wont reflect. I usually watch films with the lights off for the full movie theater effect.

    For daytime TV viewing I just use cinema with brightness/contract down to 50, I don't want to cause burn in.

    For nightime film viewing I use custom settings for the PS3 that I got on AVS:
    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=8a45cc4cc2fdf094787af423f6843520&t=1346417&page=3

    ISF-Night settings (Expert 2)

    Contrast: 77
    Brightness: 53
    H. Sharp: 39
    V. Sharp: 50
    Color: 50
    Tint: 0
    Color Temp: W30

    Dynamic Contrast: Off
    Noise Reduction: Off
    Gamma: Medium
    Black Level: Low
    Film Mode: On
    Color Gamut: Standard
    Edge Enhancement: Off
    White Balance: Warm
    Method: 20 Point IRE
    Pattern: Outer
    5 ire
    r 0
    g 0
    b 0

    10 ire
    r -16
    g 0
    b -36

    15 ire
    r 0
    g 0
    b 0

    20 ire
    r -17
    g -13
    b -34

    25 ire
    r -9
    g 0
    b -37

    30 ire
    r -6
    g 9
    b -29

    35 ire
    r 0
    g 0
    b -13

    40 ire
    r 9
    g 17
    b -25

    45 ire
    r 0
    g 0
    b 0

    5o ire
    r -10
    g 0
    b -42

    55 ire
    r -18
    g 0
    b -10

    60 ire
    r 15
    g 20
    b -37

    65 ire
    r -18
    g 0
    b 0

    70 ire
    r 5
    g 30
    b -31

    75 ire
    r -9
    g 9
    b -29

    80 ire
    r -6
    g 19
    b -50

    85 ire
    r 0
    g 0
    b 0

    90 ire
    r -8
    g 16
    b -9

    95 ire
    r 0
    g 0
    b 0

    100 ire
    r -5
    g 0
    b -24

    red color
    0
    red tint
    -1
    green color
    -6
    green tint
    0
    blue color
    -8
    blue tint
    0
    yelow color
    -5
    yellow tint
    11
    cyan color
    -2
    cyan tint
    -2
    magenta color
    -3
    magenta tint
    -10

    Takes about 10min to put all that into the TV but the results are well worth it imo. You get those nice blacks plasmas are well known for.

    Fantastic quality with all the lights off.
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    Re: I need a new TV, HELP!

    Post by tim1_2 on Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:39 am

    Hoags wrote:Reflections are pretty bad. My basement window doesnt face the TV at all so I only get reflections from the lights on the ceiling. I'm thinking of setting up a lamp or torchere behind the TV for some ambient lighting that wont reflect. I usually watch films with the lights off for the full movie theater effect.

    I had similar issues, but I solved them easily. I got two dimmable lamps setup on either side of the TV to provide low-level lighting during most viewing.

    My ceiling lights are all pot-lights, and I am able to tilt the bezels a little to shade the TV from the lights. It works great.

    Backlighting TVs is also popular: http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-11247_7-6217705-1.html
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    Re: I need a new TV, HELP!

    Post by SeawaySensFan on Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:08 pm

    tim1_2 wrote:
    Peggy wrote:I just used new calibration settings that i found on AVS forums for my 42LK520. It looks so much darker now. I guess I have to get used to it.

    Ugh. Set your TV to settings you can enjoy. Starting with the "pro" calibration settings isn't a bad idea, but there's no sense in diminishing your own enjoyment because of what the "pros" say are the "ideal" settings.

    What if you're a settings-snob?
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    Re: I need a new TV, HELP!

    Post by Hoags on Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:09 pm

    tim1_2 wrote:
    I had similar issues, but I solved them easily. I got two dimmable lamps setup on either side of the TV to provide low-level lighting during most viewing.

    My ceiling lights are all pot-lights, and I am able to tilt the bezels a little to shade the TV from the lights. It works great.

    Backlighting TVs is also popular: http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-11247_7-6217705-1.html

    Thanks I am going to need some sort of ambient lighting. Either on either side of the TV or behind it on the wall.

    I got some wall mounts for my speakers, I am going to have mount those this weekend as well.
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    Re: I need a new TV, HELP!

    Post by Ev on Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:09 pm

    What I don't get is all the different IRE settings.

    On my LCD, if the IRE is at 100, do I only use the different R, G, B setting for 100 only? Every single settings lists all the increments (100, 90, 80, etc.) like you listed above. I only use 100 if my IRE is at 100, correct?
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    Re: I need a new TV, HELP!

    Post by Ev on Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:18 pm

    tim1_2 wrote:
    Peggy wrote:I just used new calibration settings that i found on AVS forums for my 42LK520. It looks so much darker now. I guess I have to get used to it.

    Ugh. Set your TV to settings you can enjoy. Starting with the "pro" calibration settings isn't a bad idea, but there's no sense in diminishing your own enjoyment because of what the "pros" say are the "ideal" settings.

    This is true. I am just picky and try to fit in with the pros Laugh1
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    Re: I need a new TV, HELP!

    Post by TheAvatar on Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:49 am

    Well, went out and got this little guy on the weekend :

    http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/samsung-samsung-51-1080p-3d-plasma-smart-tv-pn51d550-pn51d550c1fxzc/10166071.aspx?path=37457df405a65a36fa00beb7aacaa987en02

    Loving it. Now need an Apple TV!
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    Re: I need a new TV, HELP!

    Post by tim1_2 on Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:40 am

    What's the appeal with Apple TV?
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    Post by Ev on Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:38 pm

    yeah I don't get why one needs an Apple TV
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    Post by SeawaySensFan on Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:40 pm

    Apple TV?

    Ahhhhh! Ahhhhh!
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    Re: I need a new TV, HELP!

    Post by wprager on Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:56 pm

    Peggy wrote:yeah I don't get why one needs an Apple TV

    To avoid paying Rogers Cable TV ... and to suddenly start paying more to Rogers Cable Internet.


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    Re: I need a new TV, HELP!

    Post by tim1_2 on Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:57 am

    Well, first you need to get rid of Rogers. Get TekSavvy or some other 3rd party internet provider. Your data cap issues will disappear.

    I don't know what Apple TV provides? Access to Netflix? More? Most newer TVs or Blu Ray players (and Xbox 360, Wii, and PS3 for that matter) offer access to NetFlix.

    And then there's media players available that will let you play pretty much any media file type on your TV, such as this:

    http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/western-digital-western-digital-tv-live-hub-media-center-1tb-wdbabz0010bbk-nesn-wdbabz0010bbk-nesn/10155309.aspx?path=515de3b13f64a5ad66858a84598b4712en02

    I have one, and it's great.
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    Post by Riprock on Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:13 am

    I just download all the shows I don't get with my basic package, transfer to USB and play them through my Blu-Ray player.
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    Post by Vandelay on Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:27 am

    hmm...what's the diff between apple tv and xbmc?
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    Re: I need a new TV, HELP!

    Post by Ev on Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:40 am

    tim1_2 wrote:Well, first you need to get rid of Rogers. Get TekSavvy or some other 3rd party internet provider. Your data cap issues will disappear.

    I don't know what Apple TV provides? Access to Netflix? More? Most newer TVs or Blu Ray players (and Xbox 360, Wii, and PS3 for that matter) offer access to NetFlix.

    And then there's media players available that will let you play pretty much any media file type on your TV, such as this:

    http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/western-digital-western-digital-tv-live-hub-media-center-1tb-wdbabz0010bbk-nesn-wdbabz0010bbk-nesn/10155309.aspx?path=515de3b13f64a5ad66858a84598b4712en02

    I have one, and it's great.

    Apple TV puts all your iTunes purchases/songs/videos onto your TV.

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