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wprager


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I don't think anyone posted this. Not really news, but Selanne signed a 1-year $4M deal with Anaheim.

tim1_2


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Karlsson should get money somewhere between Schenn and Myers. I like that Schenn contract, as it helps lower the bar a little (although, yeah, Karlsson and Schenn are quite different). Maybe $4 - $4.5 per, depending on this season?

shabbs


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Man... Kings are gonna have to shell out for Doughty at this rate... long term, big money...

So, I guess the "2nd contract" is officially gone now?

Wink

Oglethorpe

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wprager wrote:If they withdraw their offer does that not make him a free agent?
Sorry I meant any offer other than his Qualifying Offer. I believe the QO is still valid, but I would have to check the CBA.

wprager

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tim1_2 wrote:Karlsson should get money somewhere between Schenn and Myers. I like that Schenn contract, as it helps lower the bar a little (although, yeah, Karlsson and Schenn are quite different). Maybe $4 - $4.5 per, depending on this season?

The term will determine the cap hit. I think there's going to be a decision that has to be made in a few years. I don't think a lineup with no-hitters like Karlsson, Rundblad and Wiercioch will be solid enough to get through 4 rounds of playoffs. It may seem like a foregone conclusion that Wiercioch would be the one to go, but it's too early at this point to make those kinds of predictions.

Point is, since it's too early to make a decision, would they really give out a 5-7 year term?


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wprager

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Oglethorpe wrote:
wprager wrote:If they withdraw their offer does that not make him a free agent?
Sorry I meant any offer other than his Qualifying Offer. I believe the QO is still valid, but I would have to check the CBA.

All moot now, he signed. 2 years, $2.1M total. He held out for that?


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shabbs

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Turris remains unsigned...

shabbs

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Doughty not expected to report to training camp Friday...

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2011/09/kings-nhl-hockey-drew-doughty-don-meehan-dean-lombardi.html

SeawaySensFan

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tim1_2 wrote:Karlsson should get money somewhere between Schenn and Myers. I like that Schenn contract, as it helps lower the bar a little (although, yeah, Karlsson and Schenn are quite different). Maybe $4 - $4.5 per, depending on this season?

Here's the "bad" news, Karlsson got 45 points in a mediocre season. He'll probably hit 50-60 this year and for years to come. Anything less than $5m per season will be a generous discount.

Da lil Guy

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The elephant in the room in the Karlsson negotiations, if he can't change something this season, will be that he is quite possibly the worst defenseman, defensively speaking, in the National Hockey League.

TheAvatar

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Da lil Guy wrote:The elephant in the room in the Karlsson negotiations, if he can't change something this season, will be that he is quite possibly the worst defenseman, defensively speaking, in the National Hockey League.

Honestly, I'm not worried about that. Name me one d-man in ottawa that played really well defensively. Even Phillips was god awful.

Da lil Guy

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...and, other than Karlsson, there probably wasn't a defenseman on the roster that the Sens wouldn't have traded if they'd been able.

NEELY


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Meh, Karlsson will get the Myers deal to be honest. Doughty was nominated for The Norris and is probably basing his contract off of that, which is actually fair.

Lombardi better get things sorted out because if The Kings want any chance at a Stanley Cup, they need Doughty in a big way.

NEELY


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Da lil Guy wrote:...and, other than Karlsson, there probably wasn't a defenseman on the roster that the Sens wouldn't have traded if they'd been able.

There was a market for Phillips for sure but he is worth a lot more to the organization than a late 2nd or early 3rd round pick when they had already stock piled a ton. Carkner has some value as well.

Da lil Guy

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Don't know about Carkner.

I recall reading that the Sens had a deal in place for Phillips but he wouldn't waive his no move. I personally suspect they would have traded him if he'd accepted.

PTFlea

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wprager wrote:$3.6M x 5 years for Schenn. More than Toronto wanted to pay, but they wanted the term.

Holy Dung, what a great deal.

NEELY


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Da lil Guy wrote:Don't know about Carkner.

I recall reading that the Sens had a deal in place for Phillips but he wouldn't waive his no move. I personally suspect they would have traded him if he'd accepted.

I think he would have waived if nothing got done in terms of a contract.

tim1_2

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It was a situation where Phillips really didn't want to leave, and we felt some loyalty to him. That being said, if he didn't have a NMC, he would've been gone. We didn't want to lose him for nothing as a FA, so the best way for everybody to save face was to resign him.

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