Re: Ottawa Senators Prospect Tracker

by **wprager** on Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:33 pm

rooneypoo wrote:1) No, and 2) you can't sign a player under contract to another, more-convenient type of contract.

As long as Zibanejad doesn't play another game in the NHL this year, his ELC slides to next year.

What about playoff games?

by **rooneypoo** on Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:11 pm

wprager wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:1) No, and 2) you can't sign a player under contract to another, more-convenient type of contract.

As long as Zibanejad doesn't play another game in the NHL this year, his ELC slides to next year.

What about playoff games?

I've never been clear on that, but I think the answer is, yes, they count against a player's ELC. That's just a guess, tho'.

by **Big Ev** on Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:14 pm

rooneypoo wrote:
wprager wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:1) No, and 2) you can't sign a player under contract to another, more-convenient type of contract.

As long as Zibanejad doesn't play another game in the NHL this year, his ELC slides to next year.

What about playoff games?

I've never been clear on that, but I think the answer is, yes, they count against a player's ELC. That's just a guess, tho'.

I wouldn't see why they would, because you don't earn any money. However, it is a moot point because a player would have to be on the team by a certain date in order to be eligible for the playoffs I believe.

by **rooneypoo** on Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:21 pm

Big Ev wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
wprager wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:1) No, and 2) you can't sign a player under contract to another, more-convenient type of contract.

As long as Zibanejad doesn't play another game in the NHL this year, his ELC slides to next year.

What about playoff games?

I've never been clear on that, but I think the answer is, yes, they count against a player's ELC. That's just a guess, tho'.

I wouldn't see why they would, because you don't earn any money. However, it is a moot point because a player would have to be on the team by a certain date in order to be eligible for the playoffs I believe.

Oh yeah, you're definitely right on that one. Given that, it's probably just not possible to be in a situation where this could happen.

by **wprager** on Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:34 am

Zibanejad is under contract and has already played on the team. He could be recalled but not inserted into the lineup in the regular season, so no game #10. Is that doable?

by **Big Ev** on Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:24 pm

Zibanejad score on Gerber! hahaha

by **SpezDispenser** on Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:28 pm

Big Ev wrote:Zibanejad score on Gerber! hahaha

Hahahaha.

by **tim1_2** on Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:30 pm

Gerber's still floating around? Good for him. Poor guy was a victim of the Ottawa Goalie Graveyard.

by **Big Ev** on Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:26 pm

Another goal for Milos!!!! (Silfverberg)

by **Big Ev** on Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:26 pm

Prince 2 goals, Noesen hat trick (game winner in OT)

by **cash** on Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:35 pm

Big Ev wrote:Prince 2 goals, Noesen hat trick (game winner in OT)

Pageau 1+2

by **Big Ev** on Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:45 pm

cash wrote:
Big Ev wrote:Prince 2 goals, Noesen hat trick (game winner in OT)

Pageau 1+2

Stone goal but I guess that's just inferred now

by **SpezDispenser** on Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:51 pm

Nice night for our guys.

by **cash** on Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:10 am

Big Ev wrote:
cash wrote:
Big Ev wrote:Prince 2 goals, Noesen hat trick (game winner in OT)

Pageau 1+2

Stone goal but I guess that's just inferred now

?

by **wprager** on Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:08 am

Probably meant assumed.

by **Big Ev** on Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:14 am

wprager wrote:Probably meant assumed.

Yeah

by **Big Ev** on Sun Feb 26, 2012 3:14 pm

Brendan Shinniman now has a 5 points lead over stone (110 points) after grabbing 36 points in 12 February games

by **SeawaySensFan** on Sun Feb 26, 2012 3:16 pm

Big Ev wrote:Brendan Shinniman now has a 5 points lead over stone (110 points) after grabbing 36 points in 12 February games

He hasn't been so busy suspending people so he's been able to produce more.

by **Big Ev** on Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:05 am

SeawaySensFan wrote:
Big Ev wrote:Brendan Shinniman now has a 5 points lead over stone (110 points) after grabbing 36 points in 12 February games

He hasn't been so busy suspending people so he's been able to produce more.

Yeah, you know how I said 5 points? Make it a 10 point lead after tonight. This guy just came in and trolled everybody else. :crossarms:

by **SpezDispenser** on Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:19 am

Big Ev wrote:Brendan Shinniman now has a 5 points lead over stone (110 points) after grabbing 36 points in 12 February games

Didn't see that guy coming.

by **wprager** on Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:26 am

SpezDispenser wrote:
Big Ev wrote:Brendan Shinniman now has a 5 points lead over stone (110 points) after grabbing 36 points in 12 February games

Didn't see that guy coming.

He's just playing shinny, man.

by **Big Ev** on Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:09 pm

goal, assist, 6 shots for SIlfverberg. 12 game point streak. 49 points in 46 games

by **Big Ev** on Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:54 pm

13 game point streak for Silfverberg today.

Zibanejad 1 assist, a little 3 game point streak for him I believe.

However his team blows and they slipped to 9th. If they get back to 8th, they will end their season next Tuesday. If they finish 9th, they will have to play in the relegation playoffs. I don't think Djurgården, a legendary team from Stockholm with such players as Mats Sundin, has ever been relegated.

by **SpezDispenser** on Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:37 pm

Gotta update the stats...tomorrow.

by **Riprock** on Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:55 pm

What? Shinnimin was a free agent and just got signed by Phoenix. Surprised there wasn't a lot of buzz around him as a coveted junior FA.

Maybe the Sens scouts thought Murray was asking them to get Cinnamon?

#ShinnimanToastCrunch

by **tim1_2** on Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:06 pm

Riprock wrote:What? Shinnimin was a free agent and just got signed by Phoenix. Surprised there wasn't a lot of buzz around him as a coveted junior FA.

Maybe the Sens scouts thought Murray was asking them to get Cinnamon?

#ShinnimanToastCrunch

Heehee...Nice move by Phoenix. Kinda like signing a good player out of college.....a free prospect!

by **Big Ev** on Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:21 pm

Riprock wrote:What? Shinnimin was a free agent and just got signed by Phoenix. Surprised there wasn't a lot of buzz around him as a coveted junior FA.

Maybe the Sens scouts thought Murray was asking them to get Cinnamon?

#ShinnimanToastCrunch

He's pretty old though.

by **Riprock** on Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:05 pm

Old schmold.... Da Costa and Butler aren;t young... in fact older than any unsigned CHLer would be. Free player is a free player.

by **Big Ev** on Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:10 pm

Riprock wrote:Old schmold.... Da Costa and Butler aren;t young... in fact older than any unsigned CHLer would be. Free player is a free player.

um no it's not free, you have to pay them.

by **Riprock** on Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:34 am

So giving up nothing except a paycheque which is obvious for anyone in professional hockey isn't free eh? Funny that whenever a GM signs a player that they didn't have to trade for or use a draft pick on it is called getting a player "for free". Nice try with semantics. Smart arse.

by **Big Ev** on Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:17 am

Riprock wrote:So giving up nothing except a paycheque which is obvious for anyone in professional hockey isn't free eh? Funny that whenever a GM signs a player that they didn't have to trade for or use a draft pick on it is called getting a player "for free". Nice try with semantics. Smart arse.

I'm not paying a guy I don't want.

and FYI this Shinniman tried out with the Coyotes this past season so obviously they were his first choice

by **Big Ev** on Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:59 pm

Another 2 points for Silfverberg.

by **Riprock** on Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:13 pm

Big Ev wrote:
Riprock wrote:So giving up nothing except a paycheque which is obvious for anyone in professional hockey isn't free eh? Funny that whenever a GM signs a player that they didn't have to trade for or use a draft pick on it is called getting a player "for free". Nice try with semantics. Smart arse.

I'm not paying a guy I don't want.

and FYI this Shinniman tried out with the Coyotes this past season so obviously they were his first choice

Since when are you paying anyone?

by **Big Ev** on Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:56 pm

Riprock wrote:
Big Ev wrote:
Riprock wrote:So giving up nothing except a paycheque which is obvious for anyone in professional hockey isn't free eh? Funny that whenever a GM signs a player that they didn't have to trade for or use a draft pick on it is called getting a player "for free". Nice try with semantics. Smart arse.

I'm not paying a guy I don't want.

and FYI this Shinniman tried out with the Coyotes this past season so obviously they were his first choice

Since when are you paying anyone?

Come on man. They're not going to waste a contract on a guy think think is a junior star and nothing more. And even then Phoenix had first dibs.

by **SpezDispenser** on Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:33 pm

14 game point streak for Silfverberg...great stuff!

by **Big Ev** on Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:30 pm

Noesen game-winning goal today

Prince injured, did not play

Side note: Erie Otters had no goalie so put in centre Connor Crisp who has allowed 8 goals so far against Niagara.

by **SpezDispenser** on Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:38 pm

Big Ev wrote:Noesen game-winning goal today

Prince injured, did not play

Side note: Erie Otters had no goalie so put in centre Connor Crisp who has allowed 8 goals so far against Niagara.

Hahahaha, that's awesome.

by **SpezDispenser** on Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:44 pm

I feel bad now, they're scoring at will.

by **Big Ev** on Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:55 pm

SpezDispenser wrote:I feel bad now, they're scoring at will.

13 goals allowed, but got the first star!

by **SpezDispenser** on Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:56 pm

Big Ev wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:I feel bad now, they're scoring at will.

13 goals allowed, but got the first star!

Ha, because it's neat.

by **wprager** on Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:38 pm

Big Ev wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:I feel bad now, they're scoring at will.

13 goals allowed, but got the first star!

13 on 45 shots. Those are "Johnny" numbers. It's worth noting that Niagra is one of the most feared offences in the league, and Crisp was actually a healthy scratch.

by **Riprock** on Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:25 pm

Zibanejad and Silfverberg both with assists so far today. That extends Silfverberg's streak to 15 games.

by **spader** on Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:33 pm

Riprock wrote:Zibanejad and Silfverberg both with assists so far today. That extends Silfverberg's streak to 15 games.

Can we

yet?