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shabbs


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Yeah, that is odd. Carriers have had the phone for quite some time. Not sure why such a delay. US customers are pissed. This add may actually make them more angry! Hopefully they inundate the carriers with calls.

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Apple probably paid those bunghole I wouldn't be surprised. Are we supposed to believe it is a coincidence ALL the american carriers are late on this?

f USA

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Americans are conditioned for iphones. It's not even funny.

I like the z10. The keyboard feels surprisingly good but it's not as simple to use as other phones (learning curve). Ultimately blackberry fans will be stoked for the upgrade but I can't see apple or android users jumping ship. In fact no one should have expected that at all, this is the first generation of the new os, it can't leap over everyone at once.

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LeKing wrote:Apple probably paid those bunghole I wouldn't be surprised. Are we supposed to believe it is a coincidence ALL the american carriers are late on this?

f USA

Apple has them all in their back pocket. I can tell you that first hand (see Verizon bending over a barrel to sell iphone 5 despite its inability to do cdma voice + data....this is a hard requirement on all other Verizon phones)

First sign of z10 taking away apple sales and they will definitely file a lawsuit against blackberry.

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Michallica wrote:Americans are conditioned for iphones. It's not even funny.

I like the z10. The keyboard feels surprisingly good but it's not as simple to use as other phones (learning curve). Ultimately blackberry fans will be stoked for the upgrade but I can't see apple or android users jumping ship. In fact no one should have expected that at all, this is the first generation of the new os, it can't leap over everyone at once.
A few things concern me with the Z10 and the new BB10 OS. It seems the notification controls have been really trimmed down for alerts and sound profiles. This is a big surprise and I rely heavily on those customizations. No more BIS, so email is all via ActiveSync or direct pull from your phone. Gonna miss the reliability of BIS but I do understand why this was necessary. Now the BB is just like all the other smart phones in that respect for email and web browsing. BBM related stuff still goes via the NOC. This limit of 8 apps and the closing of older apps after opening a 9th app is a bit confusing and seems to happen with no notification. I'll need to see how this behaves when I get my phone. Hopefully it's not a real issue.

But the biggest issue for me is no USB sync for local Oulook install. This is a HUGE issue. BB Link does not support this at this time. I need to keep my Calendar, Contacts, Notes and Tasks up to date between my BB and my laptop. I hope this is coming soon.

Will be interesting.

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Michallica wrote:Americans are conditioned for iphones. It's not even funny.

I like the z10. The keyboard feels surprisingly good but it's not as simple to use as other phones (learning curve). Ultimately blackberry fans will be stoked for the upgrade but I can't see apple or android users jumping ship. In fact no one should have expected that at all, this is the first generation of the new os, it can't leap over everyone at once.

They don't need people to jump ship at the moment, they just need to re-establish brand recognition.
Even if the phone is not out until March, Superbowl ad + Alicia Keys is a very good start and way better than they've ever done Marketing wise.
Once the Z10 and Q10 get enough sales, the apps (INstagram, Flipboard etc) will start to come, and Mr Lambda will start to get interest, and they will realize the Operating system is actually pretty good compared to iOS and Android.
Hopefully the Z10 will sell enough to keep them alive until then...

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shabbs wrote:
Michallica wrote:Americans are conditioned for iphones. It's not even funny.

I like the z10. The keyboard feels surprisingly good but it's not as simple to use as other phones (learning curve). Ultimately blackberry fans will be stoked for the upgrade but I can't see apple or android users jumping ship. In fact no one should have expected that at all, this is the first generation of the new os, it can't leap over everyone at once.
A few things concern me with the Z10 and the new BB10 OS. It seems the notification controls have been really trimmed down for alerts and sound profiles. This is a big surprise and I rely heavily on those customizations. No more BIS, so email is all via ActiveSync or direct pull from your phone. Gonna miss the reliability of BIS but I do understand why this was necessary. Now the BB is just like all the other smart phones in that respect for email and web browsing. BBM related stuff still goes via the NOC. This limit of 8 apps and the closing of older apps after opening a 9th app is a bit confusing and seems to happen with no notification. I'll need to see how this behaves when I get my phone. Hopefully it's not a real issue.

But the biggest issue for me is no USB sync for local Oulook install. This is a HUGE issue. BB Link does not support this at this time. I need to keep my Calendar, Contacts, Notes and Tasks up to date between my BB and my laptop. I hope this is coming soon.

Will be interesting.

Yeah it's not perfect for sure and there will be alot of complaints. From my experience its been all wireless syncing and activation of the balance and for the most part has been effective. Link is one thing I hope they start concentrating on more it feels like a tool mainly for media syncing and backup/restore. I get notifications for all messages but things like weather updates or score alerts aren't as polished as old bb7. Thankfully software upgrades will improve this but yes there is no notifications bar like before. It's all in the homescreen icons

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Should also say that notifications will be primarily seen using the blackberry hub

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Michallica wrote:Should also say that notifications will be primarily seen using the blackberry hub
I mean more along the lines of distinct notifications and alerts for email, text, phone, missed calls etc... for various contacts and email accounts as well as apps like BBM, twitter, ScoreMobile etc.... I have 8 email accounts pouring into my 9900 right now with a lot of contacts i interact with. I make heavy use of custom led colours/patterns and ring tones/volumes to differentiate between the various sources. This means I can tell exactly what's waiting simply by looking at the LED or hearing the chirp. Don't even have to pick up the phone. Custom sound profiles for work/home/travelling/overnight/bedside mode etc... are also very handy.

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shabbs wrote:
Michallica wrote:Should also say that notifications will be primarily seen using the blackberry hub
I mean more along the lines of distinct notifications and alerts for email, text, phone, missed calls etc... for various contacts and email accounts as well as apps like BBM, twitter, ScoreMobile etc.... I have 8 email accounts pouring into my 9900 right now with a lot of contacts i interact with. I make heavy use of custom led colours/patterns and ring tones/volumes to differentiate between the various sources. This means I can tell exactly what's waiting simply by looking at the LED or hearing the chirp. Don't even have to pick up the phone. Custom sound profiles for work/home/travelling/overnight/bedside mode etc... are also very handy.

The basics that you mentioned are there but the depth isn't. For example you can still do the special ring tones for certain applications/contacts but something like volume level or LED patterns isn't there yet. It'll come I imagine, this is the starting framework that needs to be out in the market.

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Yeah. I was wicked pissed to hear all that the other day and was seriously considering cancelling my Z10 order after hearing BlackBerry Link doesn't support USB sycn'ing with Outlook. I've since calmed down with the belief that it will all come eventually. I certainly hope it does.

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shabbs wrote:Yeah. I was wicked pissed to hear all that the other day and was seriously considering cancelling my Z10 order after hearing BlackBerry Link doesn't support USB sycn'ing with Outlook. I've since calmed down with the belief that it will all come eventually. I certainly hope it does.

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Keep the faith!

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Michallica wrote:
shabbs wrote:Yeah. I was wicked pissed to hear all that the other day and was seriously considering cancelling my Z10 order after hearing BlackBerry Link doesn't support USB sycn'ing with Outlook. I've since calmed down with the belief that it will all come eventually. I certainly hope it does.

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Keep the faith!
I'm trying. Need to get this puppy in my hands... tomorrow... soon... soon...

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Z10 DAY!!!!!

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Shares are skyrocketing


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fack I shoulda bought when it was at $6....

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I did when it was 7 and I told everyone I knew to do so. Nobody listened. I feel bad...NOT

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Anyone know where I can buy a Micro Sim adapter in the city?

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