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    Re: General Hockey Talk - Injuries, signings, factoids + other news from around the league

    Post by Riprock on Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:25 am

    I cant believe the Montreal Canadiens are in 3rd last place :O

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    Post by shabbs on Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:40 am

    Can the Oilers catch the Blue Jackets though? Three #1 picks in a row? Watch them finish 2nd last and then win the lottery.

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    Post by Riprock on Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:58 am

    Finishing bottom 3 is still good for Edmonton... the top 2 guys are very likely Yakupov and Grigorenko. Edmonton is better off to draft a defenceman, and there are lots of them. If they drafted top 2 they would have to draft one of those guys though.
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    Post by tim1_2 on Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:10 am

    Riprock wrote:Finishing bottom 3 is still good for Edmonton... the top 2 guys are very likely Yakupov and Grigorenko. Edmonton is better off to draft a defenceman, and there are lots of them. If they drafted top 2 they would have to draft one of those guys though.

    I'm Cussing sick of the Oilers. GET BETTER, YOU Dung FRANCHISE. I understand that apparently their future is bright, but it seems like we've been saying that forever.

    Their lack of ability to attract good free agents really hinders them.
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    Post by Riprock on Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:31 am

    I still believe that over time, pick after pick, they will get better. Plus they have an owner willing to spend.

    I'm confident that eventually Edmonton will be a place where players will want to go.
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    Post by SeawaySensFan on Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:32 am

    shabbs wrote:Can the Oilers catch the Blue Jackets though? Three #1 picks in a row? Watch them finish 2nd last and then win the lottery.

    Goes to show what "tanking" is worth Beer
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    Re: General Hockey Talk - Injuries, signings, factoids + other news from around the league

    Post by Riprock on Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:37 am

    So, do you think that if Ottawa instead had the #1 overall pick the past two drafts, would they be a) same position they are in now; b) same position as Edmonton is now; or c) better than they (Ottawa) are now?
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    Post by SeawaySensFan on Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:41 am

    Riprock wrote:So, do you think that if Ottawa instead had the #1 overall pick the past two drafts, would they be a) same position they are in now; b) same position as Edmonton is now; or c) better than they (Ottawa) are now?

    No idea because picks are a crapshoot to begin with and it depends too on what Ottawa would have done with the player they chose, send him to junior, to the AHL or "learn on the job."
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    Post by tim1_2 on Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:56 am

    Riprock wrote:So, do you think that if Ottawa instead had the #1 overall pick the past two drafts, would they be a) same position they are in now; b) same position as Edmonton is now; or c) better than they (Ottawa) are now?

    If we had been bad enough to get the first overall pick in the past two drafts, we'd likely be just as Dung as Edmonton. To finish in the basement in consecutive years...that's horrible.
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    Post by Riprock on Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:36 am

    Ottawa was almost there last season, with nearly the same team.
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    Re: General Hockey Talk - Injuries, signings, factoids + other news from around the league

    Post by Riprock on Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:38 am

    SeawaySensFan wrote:
    Riprock wrote:So, do you think that if Ottawa instead had the #1 overall pick the past two drafts, would they be a) same position they are in now; b) same position as Edmonton is now; or c) better than they (Ottawa) are now?

    No idea because picks are a crapshoot to begin with and it depends too on what Ottawa would have done with the player they chose, send him to junior, to the AHL or "learn on the job."

    Taylor Hall would be the same player, maybe even better with Spezza as his center. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins would have meant Turris would not have been needed, thus we'd still have Rundblad and a 2nd round pick in Ottawa. Despite injury, RNH is probably the odds on favourite to win the Calder.
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    Re: General Hockey Talk - Injuries, signings, factoids + other news from around the league

    Post by tim1_2 on Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:58 am

    Riprock wrote:Taylor Hall would be the same player, maybe even better with Spezza as his center. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins would have meant Turris would not have been needed, thus we'd still have Rundblad and a 2nd round pick in Ottawa. Despite injury, RNH is probably the odds on favourite to win the Calder.

    This is a really weird hypothetical discussion to have.

    And Landeskog might get serious Calder consideration too...might be a crapshoot now.
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    Post by SeawaySensFan on Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:04 am

    tim1_2 wrote:
    Riprock wrote:Taylor Hall would be the same player, maybe even better with Spezza as his center. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins would have meant Turris would not have been needed, thus we'd still have Rundblad and a 2nd round pick in Ottawa. Despite injury, RNH is probably the odds on favourite to win the Calder.

    This is a really weird hypothetical discussion to have.

    And Landeskog might get serious Calder consideration too...might be a crapshoot now.

    See bolded. That's the bottom line in all of this. I don't get how anyone can speak in absolutes when it comes to pro athletes at all much less guys who haven't even played a single pro game.

    If anything Ottawa is mitigating that risk by trading for guys (Turris, Bishop) who have already developed and proven themselves as pros.
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    Post by PTFlea on Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:09 am

    shabbs wrote:Can the Oilers catch the Blue Jackets though? Three #1 picks in a row? Watch them finish 2nd last and then win the lottery.

    Pathetic. The excitement of another top 3 pick would have long dissipated.
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    Re: General Hockey Talk - Injuries, signings, factoids + other news from around the league

    Post by PTFlea on Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:15 am

    Dmitry Chesnokov ‏ @dchesnokov Reply Retweet Favorite Open
    After Radulov's club lost their playoff series today, a Q: Is Radulov staying in Ufa? Radulov: "No comments." (via SovSport) #Preds


    Radulov coming over finally?
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    Post by tim1_2 on Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:16 am

    SpezDispenser wrote:Dmitry Chesnokov ‏ @dchesnokov Reply Retweet Favorite Open
    After Radulov's club lost their playoff series today, a Q: Is Radulov staying in Ufa? Radulov: "No comments." (via SovSport) #Preds


    Radulov coming over finally?

    That'd be very exciting, and a potential boon for Nashville.
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    Post by PTFlea on Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:16 am

    Yeah, the final piece perhaps. Although KHL hockey and NHL hockey are starkly different.
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    Post by Riprock on Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:19 am

    But Radulov has shown to be an NHL star.

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