2012/13 Lineup

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    Re: 2012/13 Lineup

    Post by tim1_2 on Mon May 07, 2012 11:41 am

    NEELY wrote:All depends what they are looking for. IMO they need a bomb of a LH shot on the 1st PP unit to take some pressure off Karlsson and Spezza.

    So we sign Garrison and trade for Murray, and our D looks like this:

    Garrison - Karlsson
    Phillips - Murray
    Cowen - Gonchar
    Borowiecki

    Oh dear, Murray probably plays the left side, and I just put him on his off-side...universe...collapsing....

    Well, ignoring that possibility, that looks to be some solid D, other than what people may think about Gonchar.

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    Re: 2012/13 Lineup

    Post by spader on Mon May 07, 2012 11:58 am

    NEELY wrote:Murray from SJ may be on the block and could very well fit in with the core of Swedes in Ottawa.

    The caveman? I've been dying to see him in a Sens sweater. Yes, please! Ahhhhh!

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    Re: 2012/13 Lineup

    Post by PTFlea on Mon May 07, 2012 12:01 pm

    Murray would be really expensive IMO. He's such a great defensive D-man - literally just what we need, but the price might be out of our league.

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    Re: 2012/13 Lineup

    Post by spader on Mon May 07, 2012 12:05 pm

    tim1_2 wrote:
    NEELY wrote:Murray from SJ may be on the block and could very well fit in with the core of Swedes in Ottawa.

    One year left on his deal at $2.5M. Probably wouldn't be too expensive in terms of trade value. Seems kinda like a Volchenkov. Yeah, I could see taking him on, especially if Carkner isn't retained. His hit total dropped off this year (2.1 hits per game) compared to last year though (2.8 hits per game). He is getting old, and maybe is starting to feel it.

    Anyway, yeah, I could picture him playing an important role for the Sens.

    SpezDispenser wrote:Murray would be really expensive IMO. He's such a great defensive D-man - literally just what we need, but the price might be out of our league.


    One of you must be wrong. Since I really want to see Murray here, I've decided that SD must be the incorrect assessor of young Douglas's trade value. Sarcasm

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    Re: 2012/13 Lineup

    Post by PTFlea on Mon May 07, 2012 12:11 pm

    Ha...I wish. I've always really liked that guy.

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    Re: 2012/13 Lineup

    Post by tim1_2 on Mon May 07, 2012 12:15 pm

    Going into the last year of his deal, he couldn't be "really expensive". I stand by my assessment of "not too expensive"!!!!

    Couldn't see him garnering a first round pick or top-tier forward...so maybe a prospect or middle-tier forward.

    Just because this is an Ottawa Senators thread, let's say the deal is Foligno for Murray. Do you do it?

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    Post by PTFlea on Mon May 07, 2012 12:19 pm

    tim1_2 wrote:Going into the last year of his deal, he couldn't be "really expensive". I stand by my assessment of "not too expensive"!!!!

    Couldn't see him garnering a first round pick or top-tier forward...so maybe a prospect or middle-tier forward.

    Just because this is an Ottawa Senators thread, let's say the deal is Foligno for Murray. Do you do it?

    Not without an extension IMO.

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    Re: 2012/13 Lineup

    Post by tim1_2 on Mon May 07, 2012 12:23 pm

    So let's say Foligno's new contract is $2.0M for two years, and we can trade that for Murray, after having negotiated a 3-year $3M/year contract for him. Do you do that?

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    Re: 2012/13 Lineup

    Post by Ev on Mon May 07, 2012 12:25 pm

    tim1_2 wrote:So let's say Foligno's new contract is $2.0M for two years, and we can trade that for Murray, after having negotiated a 3-year $3M/year contract for him. Do you do that?

    Yes.

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    Re: 2012/13 Lineup

    Post by PTFlea on Mon May 07, 2012 12:26 pm

    tim1_2 wrote:So let's say Foligno's new contract is $2.0M for two years, and we can trade that for Murray, after having negotiated a 3-year $3M/year contract for him. Do you do that?

    I would personally, yes. Murray is a warrior. 143 blocks, 126 hits in 60 games = a beautiful intimidation factor on the back end. Nice replacement for Kuba too.

    Now...what to do about the offense from the backend...

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    Re: 2012/13 Lineup

    Post by PTFlea on Mon May 07, 2012 12:32 pm

    Why, where is it said that Murray's on the block anyway?

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    Re: 2012/13 Lineup

    Post by SeawaySensFan on Mon May 07, 2012 12:33 pm

    SpezDispenser wrote:Why, where is it said that Murray's on the block anyway?

    Douglas Murray on the block?!?!?!? What the?!?!?!?! Ahhhhh! Ahhhhh!

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    Re: 2012/13 Lineup

    Post by tim1_2 on Mon May 07, 2012 12:36 pm

    SpezDispenser wrote:Why, where is it said that Murray's on the block anyway?

    It's a hypothetical situation with the type of d-man Ottawa may have interest in.

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    Re: 2012/13 Lineup

    Post by spader on Mon May 07, 2012 12:39 pm

    tim1_2 wrote:So let's say Foligno's new contract is $2.0M for two years, and we can trade that for Murray, after having negotiated a 3-year $3M/year contract for him. Do you do that?
    Nod I would. I like Foligno, but you have to give to get. Murray's a beast.

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    Re: 2012/13 Lineup

    Post by PTFlea on Mon May 07, 2012 1:26 pm

    He's certainly the kind of D-man we could use. Still like Garrison after finding out he blocks shots and hits too.

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    Re: 2012/13 Lineup

    Post by tim1_2 on Mon May 07, 2012 1:32 pm

    Murray also fills the 'ugly' void that has been vacated by A-Train and Leclaire.

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    Re: 2012/13 Lineup

    Post by sandysensfan on Mon May 07, 2012 5:36 pm

    tim1_2 wrote:
    NEELY wrote:All depends what they are looking for. IMO they need a bomb of a LH shot on the 1st PP unit to take some pressure off Karlsson and Spezza.

    So we sign Garrison and trade for Murray, and our D looks like this:

    Garrison - Karlsson
    Phillips - Murray
    Cowen - Gonchar
    Borowiecki

    Oh dear, Murray probably plays the left side, and I just put him on his off-side...universe...collapsing....

    Well, ignoring that possibility, that looks to be some solid D, other than what people may think about Gonchar.

    If Garrison is that good.... don't you think Florida would re-sign him?

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    Re: 2012/13 Lineup

    Post by PTFlea on Mon May 07, 2012 5:41 pm

    sandysensfan wrote:
    tim1_2 wrote:
    NEELY wrote:All depends what they are looking for. IMO they need a bomb of a LH shot on the 1st PP unit to take some pressure off Karlsson and Spezza.

    So we sign Garrison and trade for Murray, and our D looks like this:

    Garrison - Karlsson
    Phillips - Murray
    Cowen - Gonchar
    Borowiecki

    Oh dear, Murray probably plays the left side, and I just put him on his off-side...universe...collapsing....

    Well, ignoring that possibility, that looks to be some solid D, other than what people may think about Gonchar.

    If Garrison is that good.... don't you think Florida would re-sign him?

    There's a problem with waiting this long IMO. Same with Parise.

    If those guys really wanted to be in their respective cities with their clubs, they would have signed by now. Parise would have given them a bit of a break and taken a 6 x 6 or 6.5 max. Garrison would have agreed to a 3.5 X 3, but the fact that it's not done likely means they want to test the market and see what kind of offers they get - and then if they go back to those clubs and they agree to match the highest offer, it all works out - but how often have you seen that?

    Almost the same issue with Kuba. What's done - or not done in these instances - speak volumes.

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