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    NHL CBA Talk

    Post by Hoags on Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:37 pm

    Might as well start a thread on this one. According to Renaud Lavoie:

    https://twitter.com/RenLavoieRDS/status/223958677789491201
    NHL proposal to players: 1-reduce players hockey related revenues to 46% from 57 %. 2-10 seasons in NHL before being UFA.

    https://twitter.com/RenLavoieRDS/status/223959023102341120
    3-contracts limites to 5 years 4-no more salary arbitration. 5- entry-level contract 5 years instead of 3

    Well if they want that, can you say lockout ? :crossarms:
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    Post by Ev on Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:10 pm

    it's really nothing to get worked up about. Start out high. Basic negotiating. Fans need to relax and everything will work out, just as it did in the NFL last summer. They lost the preseason, which some people think is a good thing anyway.

    The PA will counter, the NHL will try to lessen their demands. There's really no bitterness or conflict in these negotiations as there was in 2004.
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    Re: NHL CBA Talk

    Post by shabbs on Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:34 am

    And so it begins...

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=400580

    http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2012/07/14/grange_nhl_owners_split_personality_cba_talks/

    Highlights:

    Among the pillars of a new-look CBA should the owners get their way when the current version expires Sept. 15 are:

    --- A reduction of the player's share of hockey related revenue to 46 per cent from the 57 per cent it is currently.

    ---10 years of NHL service time to become a free agent, up from seven.

    ---Five year contract limits - Ilya Kovalchuk signed a 15-year deal in 2010 and Zach Parise and Ryan Suter signed 13-year deals last week.

    ---Players would not be eligible for signing bonuses

    ---Entry level deals would extend from three years to five.

    Also, the New York Post is reporting that the definition of what is hockey related revenue would be redefined under the NHL proposal so the players would be getting a smaller share of a reduced gross number.
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    Post by wprager on Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:58 am

    Can I add a "pillar" for the fans?

    FP1. This (and future) CBAs set to expire at the end of the regular season and not 3 weeks before the start of the next one.


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    Re: NHL CBA Talk

    Post by wprager on Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:06 am

    They can always add the "franchise player tag" to by-pass some of the restrictions for star players.


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    Re: NHL CBA Talk

    Post by shabbs on Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:18 am

    That is one aggressive first stab at changes by the NHL... this should be interesting... can't wait to see what the NHLPA responds with...

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    Re: NHL CBA Talk

    Post by NEELY on Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:13 am

    Yah that's a pretty hard line to take and could be border line insulting. Pushing back UFA and and making the ELC longer is a very good idea though and will bring down salaries.
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    Re: NHL CBA Talk

    Post by Ev on Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:49 am

    might be in the minority, but I wouldn't mind missing a month or two if it ment getting a long-term deal done. Bingo would dominate with Cowen, etc.

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    Post by NEELY on Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:52 am

    Big Ev wrote:might be in the minority, but I wouldn't mind missing a month or two if it ment getting a long-term deal done. Bingo would dominate with Cowen, etc.

    Other teams can do the same. Happened last time too and Bingo may have iced the potential best ever AHL team and they still lost in the 2nd round.

    Hockey going on a lock out would be a disaster and even I would stop going to games... the NHL won't recover.
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    Post by Ev on Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:53 am

    the NBA looked like their season was done for good. They were so far apart. Then they came to a deal two months into the lockout and teams played 66 games instead of 82. Season's long as it is, so I'd take that in the NHL for a year.
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    Re: NHL CBA Talk

    Post by Ev on Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:54 am

    NEELY wrote:
    Big Ev wrote:might be in the minority, but I wouldn't mind missing a month or two if it ment getting a long-term deal done. Bingo would dominate with Cowen, etc.

    Other teams can do the same. Happened last time too and Bingo may have iced the potential best ever AHL team and they still lost in the 2nd round.

    Hockey going on a lock out would be a disaster and even I would stop going to games... the NHL won't recover.

    There is no chance there is a full season lockout. Missing a month or so wouldn't be the end of the world.

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    Post by NEELY on Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:01 pm

    They shouldn't miss any time at all. Everyone is making money hand over fist right now and losing time because other want more money is disgusting. I won't support the NHL in any financial sense if they miss a single game.
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    Re: NHL CBA Talk

    Post by Hoags on Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:09 pm

    Big Ev wrote:
    There is no chance there is a full season lockout. Missing a month or so wouldn't be the end of the world.

    Donald Fehr is the head of the NHLPA, not much reason to be optimistic, although sky isn't falling yet.

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    Post by NEELY on Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:40 pm

    OK City would be something else though.
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    Re: NHL CBA Talk

    Post by wprager on Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:13 pm

    NEELY wrote:They shouldn't miss any time at all. Everyone is making money hand over fist right now and losing time because other want more money is disgusting. I won't support the NHL in any financial sense if they miss a single game.

    Not true. There are a lot more teams losing money than those making money. The cap has helped parity (initially) but it has hurt the teams in smaller markets in terms of trying to make a profit.


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