WEBER SIGNS 14 YEAR OFFER SHEET WITH FLYERS!

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    Post by PTFlea on Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:39 pm

    Big Ev wrote:Diddle yeah says Poile:


    Seriously, build around Weber and Rinne, no real issue there. You lost Suter, it'll be as much a wakeup call to Suter as it is to the Preds. No way he has as good a season in Minny without Weber. Who's gonna play with him? Gilbert? Yikes...

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    Post by shabbs on Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:39 pm

    hemlock wrote:Hmm, according to capgeek, this Weber contract does not include a NMC, or at least it's unknown at this point. How fantastic for the Preds if not.
    Yeah, I believe that is a condition of an offer sheet - they can't be part of the offer sheet. Word was that if the Preds did not match, Philly would put one in place after via an amendment.

    But, now that the Preds have matched, they have the contract without an NMC/NTC. Bonus for them.

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    Post by spader on Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:42 pm

    Riprock wrote:
    spader wrote:
    Riprock wrote:Nashville should sign Voracek to an offer sheet now.

    I'm thinking that might be doing Philly a favour. They have a bit of a logjam in the top 6 right now with Briere, Giroux, Hartnell, Schenn, Simmonds, Couturier, Read, and Voracek. Losing Voracek for a 1st and a 3rd wouldn't be terrible. They can possibly do better than that on the trade front, but I don't know that they'd match at this point.

    If this is still the correct compensation, then I'd offer $3.134M max, which would only cost a 2nd round pick, for a 45-50 point forward. If Philly matches, so be it. Then they are stuck with a $3M+ bottom 6 forward they can't trade for at least one year, and prevents them from making other moves (i.e. Doan, a defenceman). Also takes away a bargaining chip in any possible trade offers to acquire a defenceman now that they lost out on Weber.

    $1,034,249 annual cap hit or less: No compensation
    $1,034,249 $1,567,043: Third-round pick
    $1,567,043 $3,134,088: Second-round pick
    $3,134,088 $4,701,131: First and third-round pick
    $4,701,131 $6,268,175: First, second and third-round pick
    $6,268,175 $7,835,219: Two first-round picks, a second and third
    $7,835,219 and higher: Four first-round picks

    Ha. That works, except he probably wouldn't sign the sheet.
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    Post by spader on Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:45 pm

    shabbs wrote:
    hemlock wrote:Hmm, according to capgeek, this Weber contract does not include a NMC, or at least it's unknown at this point. How fantastic for the Preds if not.
    Yeah, I believe that is a condition of an offer sheet - they can't be part of the offer sheet. Word was that if the Preds did not match, Philly would put one in place after via an amendment.

    But, now that the Preds have matched, they have the contract without an NMC/NTC. Bonus for them.

    That's huge. Vertigo
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    Post by shabbs on Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:49 pm

    I'm sure his Agent will ask for one.

    Preds should reply with the following: FU!!!!!
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    Post by spader on Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:52 pm

    shabbs wrote:I'm sure his Agent will ask for one.

    Preds should reply with the following: FU!!!!!

    Seriously. They pay $14mil or whatever he's getting for this year, they can do whatever they want and he can suck it up. It's a shame Columbus doesn't have enough to trade.
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    Post by shabbs on Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:54 pm

    Weber: "Oh oh... I may not have thought this through entirely..."

    Weber: "Whatever... I'm motherfucking rich yo!!!!"
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    Post by hemlock on Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:40 pm

    spader wrote:
    shabbs wrote:I'm sure his Agent will ask for one.

    Preds should reply with the following: FU!!!!!

    Seriously. They pay $14mil or whatever he's getting for this year, they can do whatever they want and he can suck it up. It's a shame Columbus doesn't have enough to trade.

    Ahaha.

    "Listen Shea, we paid you through the nose, and now we own you. You best be on your best behaviour and do exactly what we ask or we'll trade you to Siberia Columbus."
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    Post by hemlock on Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:41 pm

    Can't wait to hear his reaction:

    "This is where I wanted to be all along"

    "Disregard the fact that I spoke with several teams and visited several cities. I was really only shopping for an offer sheet so Nashville could match!"
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    Post by Riprock on Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:54 pm

    spader wrote:

    Ha. That works, except he probably wouldn't sign the sheet.

    Maybe, maybe not. Right now he has NO contract, and I would guess that they have been talking, and the reason no deal has been reached could be many reasons, but probably he wants more, they want less, and they were probably holding out until the Weber situation and/or Doan one is resolved.

    hemlock wrote:Can't wait to hear his reaction:

    "This is where I wanted to be all along"

    "Disregard the fact that I spoke with several teams and visited several cities. I was really only shopping for an offer sheet so Nashville could match!"

    He very well have given Nashville every option to re-sign him - he did get a longer, richer contract with the Philly offer sheet, so maybe his plan was to force their hand into giving them what he wanted. Either way, he gets what he wants whether it was Nashville or Philly.
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    Post by rooneypoo on Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:10 pm

    SpezDispenser wrote:
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    SpezDispenser wrote:John Shannon ‏@JSportsnet
    Just got told by 1 NHL Exec it looks like Preds will match Weber offer sheet. "Unless,Flyers are prepared to make a great trade"#doubtful


    Worst news ever for Philly!
    For Philly or Weber?

    Wink

    Philly loses nothing if they match.

    Weber has to go back into that room... with a $110M contract... bah... Weber wins no matter what.

    :crossarms:

    True.

    I meant for Philly though. That's not a good enough defence at all, they're gonna be eaten alive with those guys on the backend and Bryzgalov in net.

    Just wait till NSH strikes back in July 2015 -- Giroux, Schenn, and Couturier = all RFAs. No way the NSH franchise forgets for a second that PHI has driven them to the brink of financial ruin. Set your watch to it.

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    Post by NEELY on Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:18 pm

    spader wrote:
    NEELY wrote:If they didn't match it was the end of their franchise. Hopefully this goes a long way in building that team as a legit hockey city. Respect was earned today.

    Nashville's been legit for some time.

    Not if they didn't match. This sent a message to everyone.

    Sucks for Weber, his agent has just totally Cussed him.
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    Post by wprager on Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:32 pm

    There are worse places than Nashville. For example, Columbus:

    http://in-and-around-columbus.com/things-to-do-in-columbus-ohio.html

    American Whistle Corporation
    Confederate Cemetery
    Segway Tours
    Central Ohio Fire Museum
    Ohio Theater (a bit off Broadway)
    German Village
    Wyandotte Winery

    Plus don't forget that you are on the road for half of the season (and only have to visit Buffalo once).



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    Post by Riprock on Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:48 pm

    But you're only 2 1/2 hours from Cleveland, and everybody loves to flee to the Cleve. CLEVELAND ROCKS! CLEVELAND ROCKS!
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    Post by shabbs on Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:50 pm

    hemlock wrote:
    spader wrote:
    shabbs wrote:I'm sure his Agent will ask for one.

    Preds should reply with the following: FU!!!!!

    Seriously. They pay $14mil or whatever he's getting for this year, they can do whatever they want and he can suck it up. It's a shame Columbus doesn't have enough to trade.

    Ahaha.

    "Listen Shea, we paid you through the nose, and now we own you. You best be on your best behaviour and do exactly what we ask or we'll trade you to Siberia Columbus."
    Weber's Agent: "Yeah, we'd like to discuss adding a NTC/limited-NTC to the contract..."
    Preds: "BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"
    Preds: "Actually, sure, we'll give you a limited NTC. Submit 1 team that you do not wish to be traded to."
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    Post by PTFlea on Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:05 pm

    rooneypoo wrote:
    Just wait till NSH strikes back in July 2015 -- Giroux, Schenn, and Couturier = all RFAs. No way the NSH franchise forgets for a second that PHI has driven them to the brink of financial ruin. Set your watch to it.

    I'd love to see that, but I doubt they have any money left.
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    Post by rooneypoo on Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:16 pm

    SpezDispenser wrote:
    rooneypoo wrote:
    Just wait till NSH strikes back in July 2015 -- Giroux, Schenn, and Couturier = all RFAs. No way the NSH franchise forgets for a second that PHI has driven them to the brink of financial ruin. Set your watch to it.

    I'd love to see that, but I doubt they have any money left.

    It's not even about getting the other team's player at this point. It's just about Diddle-ing with their Dung.
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    Post by shabbs on Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:56 pm

    rooneypoo wrote:
    SpezDispenser wrote:
    rooneypoo wrote:
    Just wait till NSH strikes back in July 2015 -- Giroux, Schenn, and Couturier = all RFAs. No way the NSH franchise forgets for a second that PHI has driven them to the brink of financial ruin. Set your watch to it.

    I'd love to see that, but I doubt they have any money left.

    It's not even about getting the other team's player at this point. It's just about Diddle-ing with their Dung.
    Lob three monster offer sheets their way...

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