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106Summer Olympics 2012  - Page 8 Empty Re: Summer Olympics 2012 on Sat Aug 11, 2012 5:16 pm

shabbs


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wprager wrote:Was there any ruling in these Olympics that went *for* the Canadians? I think we should secede from the Commonwealth. Stop putting their Queen on our money. Some are blaming Harper.
What does this have to do with the Commonwealth?

107Summer Olympics 2012  - Page 8 Empty Re: Summer Olympics 2012 on Sat Aug 11, 2012 5:23 pm

wprager


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shabbs wrote:
wprager wrote:Was there any ruling in these Olympics that went *for* the Canadians? I think we should secede from the Commonwealth. Stop putting their Queen on our money. Some are blaming Harper.
What does this have to do with the Commonwealth?

Games are in England. Rule Brittania and all that, ol' chap. Cheerio.

108Summer Olympics 2012  - Page 8 Empty Re: Summer Olympics 2012 on Sat Aug 11, 2012 5:36 pm

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GB got disqualified in the relay from even making the final.

I wonder if the relay judges were Norwegian.

109Summer Olympics 2012  - Page 8 Empty Re: Summer Olympics 2012 on Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:10 pm

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wprager wrote:
shabbs wrote:
wprager wrote:Was there any ruling in these Olympics that went *for* the Canadians? I think we should secede from the Commonwealth. Stop putting their Queen on our money. Some are blaming Harper.
What does this have to do with the Commonwealth?

Games are in England. Rule Brittania and all that, ol' chap. Cheerio.
Oh yeah, that totally makes sense now... because it's in the UK... so, the IOC just steps aside and the Commonwealth takes over. I should have known.

Wink

Facepalm

110Summer Olympics 2012  - Page 8 Empty Re: Summer Olympics 2012 on Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:11 pm

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Hoags wrote:GB got disqualified in the relay from even making the final.

I wonder if the relay judges were Norwegian.
Laugh1 Laughing3

111Summer Olympics 2012  - Page 8 Empty Re: Summer Olympics 2012 on Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:06 pm

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Hoags wrote:GB got disqualified in the relay from even making the final.

I wonder if the relay judges were Norwegian.

The baton was made of Norwegian Wood.


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112Summer Olympics 2012  - Page 8 Empty Re: Summer Olympics 2012 on Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:07 pm

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shabbs wrote:
wprager wrote:
shabbs wrote:
wprager wrote:Was there any ruling in these Olympics that went *for* the Canadians? I think we should secede from the Commonwealth. Stop putting their Queen on our money. Some are blaming Harper.
What does this have to do with the Commonwealth?

Games are in England. Rule Brittania and all that, ol' chap. Cheerio.
Oh yeah, that totally makes sense now... because it's in the UK... so, the IOC just steps aside and the Commonwealth takes over. I should have known.

Wink

Facepalm

Umm, you *do* realize that half of what I say is meant to be funny, right?


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113Summer Olympics 2012  - Page 8 Empty Re: Summer Olympics 2012 on Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:28 pm

shabbs

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wprager wrote:
shabbs wrote:
wprager wrote:
shabbs wrote:
wprager wrote:Was there any ruling in these Olympics that went *for* the Canadians? I think we should secede from the Commonwealth. Stop putting their Queen on our money. Some are blaming Harper.
What does this have to do with the Commonwealth?

Games are in England. Rule Brittania and all that, ol' chap. Cheerio.
Oh yeah, that totally makes sense now... because it's in the UK... so, the IOC just steps aside and the Commonwealth takes over. I should have known.

Wink

Facepalm

Umm, you *do* realize that half of what I say is meant to be funny, right?
That's some bad funny...

114Summer Olympics 2012  - Page 8 Empty Re: Summer Olympics 2012 on Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:13 pm

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Meh, they can't all be gems.


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115Summer Olympics 2012  - Page 8 Empty Re: Summer Olympics 2012 on Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:56 am

shabbs

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Sinclair to be Canada's flag bearer at closing ceremonies...

http://www.ctvolympics.ca/news/article/christine-sinclair-carry-canadian-flag-closing-ceremony.html?cid=rsstsn

116Summer Olympics 2012  - Page 8 Empty Re: Summer Olympics 2012 on Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:16 pm

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Can't wait till Rio. The women's soccer is on the map. Men's 4 x 100 was an eye opener. The guy who ran the anchor is fast. Kayak/canoe -- that's got Canada written all over it. That fiver on the 10 m platform finished 16th before, this time got into the finals. The 10 k swimmer out of nowhere. Lots of positive in all those bronzes -- this is a rebuilding team, after all, right? Wink


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117Summer Olympics 2012  - Page 8 Empty Re: Summer Olympics 2012 on Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:05 pm

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Did you see the picture showing the T&T runner stepping on the line?
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Does this mean Trinidad & Tobago now get the Dairy Queen treatment and GB gets the bronze? Or do they get high-def video of the race and analyze every step of every athlete and then aware all three medals to Australia, because everyone stepped on the line at some point?

Or do appeals only work for America or against Canada?


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118Summer Olympics 2012  - Page 8 Empty Re: Summer Olympics 2012 on Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:37 pm

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Wow. Well, if he stepped on the line, he should get DQ'd.

Heh. GB gets bronze! Funny guy. That was a good one.

119Summer Olympics 2012  - Page 8 Empty Re: Summer Olympics 2012 on Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:41 pm

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Is there a picture of Connaughton stepping on the line?

120Summer Olympics 2012  - Page 8 Empty Re: Summer Olympics 2012 on Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:46 pm

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I see comments that both TnT and the USA stepped on the line during the 4x100. If that is the case, IOC should do the right thing and DQ them all then. Or, reverse the DQ call on Canada! HA HA!

Sadly, none of that will happen.

121Summer Olympics 2012  - Page 8 Empty Re: Summer Olympics 2012 on Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:48 pm

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you can step on the line in the straight portion. just not allowed on the curve.

GB got DQ'd in the semis for the same thing.

122Summer Olympics 2012  - Page 8 Empty Re: Summer Olympics 2012 on Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:15 pm

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Well then... that explains that...

123Summer Olympics 2012  - Page 8 Empty Re: Summer Olympics 2012 on Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:34 pm

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Big Ev wrote:you can step on the line in the straight portion. just not allowed on the curve.

GB got DQ'd in the semis for the same thing.

No, it's not that simple.
Rule 163.3 wrote:
Lane Infringement
3. (a)In all races run in lanes, each athlete shall keep within his allocated lane from start to finish. This shall also apply to any portion of a race run in lanes.(b)In all races (or any part of races) not run in lanes, an athlete running on a bend, on the outer half of the track as per Rule162.10, or on the diversion from the track for the steeplechase water jump, shall not step or run on or inside the kerb or line marking the applicable border (the inside of the track, the outer half of the track, or the diversion from the track for the steeplechase water jump). Except as stated in Rule 163.4, if the Referee is satisfied, on the report of a Judge or Umpire or otherwise, that an athlete has violated this Rule, he shall be disqualified.

4. An athlete shall not be disqualified if he (a)is pushed or forced by another person to step or run outside his lane or on or inside the kerb or line marking the applicable border, or
(b) steps or runs outside his lane in the straight or outside the outer line of his lane on the bend, with no material advantage thereby being gained and no other athlete being jostled or obstructed so as to impede his progress.

Note: Material advantage includes improving his position by any means, including removing himself from a “boxed” position in the race by having stepped or run inside the inside edge of the track.


Read the bolded part carefully. Now look at this picture:

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I searched for an image and found this one -- I am assuming with all the arrows pointing that this is where it happened. If that's the case, then he is clearly touching the outside line of his lane, and not the inside.

There are two reasons for the lane restrictions:
1. To avoid obstruction, and
2. To avoid obtaining a meaningful advantage.

Clearly he did not interfere with anyone. Just as clearly, he did not gain a meaningful advantage. The intent of the rule was not broken. And if the picture above is the exact spot where the infraction happened, then the letter of the rule was not broken, either.

Someone compared this to a cop handing out tickets to everyone jaywalking. If there are no cars and someone crosses the road, then he is neither putting himself or others at risk, nor interfering with traffic. The intent of the law is not broken and no ticket needs to be issued.

Since when has law become an Olympic event? In the spirit of competition the judge should have used discretion (which is allowed Canadian relay team had the 3rd fastest time. It's not like T&T were a 100th of a second behind.


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