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    Re: NHL CBA Talk

    Post by shabbs on Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:42 pm

    We shouldn't expect too much from the mediation, it could take a while... and if the NHLPA goes down the decertification route in the meantime, it could derail things even more.

    Sounds like this is a PR move of sorts as both sides seem to be at an impasse and simply waiting out the end of the season's inevitability... Dec. 5th BOG meeting should be interesting...

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    Re: NHL CBA Talk

    Post by wprager on Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:35 pm


    "Low and behold" Facepalm

    I stopped reading right there.

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    Re: NHL CBA Talk

    Post by shabbs on Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:37 pm

    wprager wrote:

    "Low and behold" Facepalm

    I stopped reading right there.
    Why?
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    Re: NHL CBA Talk

    Post by shabbs on Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:54 pm

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    Re: NHL CBA Talk

    Post by shabbs on Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:08 pm

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    Re: NHL CBA Talk

    Post by wprager on Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:59 pm

    shabbs wrote:
    wprager wrote:

    "Low and behold" Facepalm

    I stopped reading right there.
    Why?

    Because I cringe when the English language is abused.


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    Re: NHL CBA Talk

    Post by shabbs on Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:10 am

    wprager wrote:
    shabbs wrote:
    wprager wrote:

    "Low and behold" Facepalm

    I stopped reading right there.
    Why?

    Because I cringe when the English language is abused.
    Ha! I've seen far worse abuse than that...
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    Re: NHL CBA Talk

    Post by tim1_2 on Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:12 am

    wprager wrote:
    shabbs wrote:
    wprager wrote:

    "Low and behold" Facepalm

    I stopped reading right there.
    Why?

    Because I cringe when the English language is abused.

    You should probably get off the internet then.
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    Re: NHL CBA Talk

    Post by shabbs on Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:14 am

    tim1_2 wrote:
    wprager wrote:
    shabbs wrote:
    wprager wrote:

    "Low and behold" Facepalm

    I stopped reading right there.
    Why?

    Because I cringe when the English language is abused.

    You should probably get off the internet then.
    Laughing3

    "i can haz cheezburger"

    Now that's abuse.
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    Re: NHL CBA Talk

    Post by SeawaySensFan on Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:35 am

    shabbs wrote:
    tim1_2 wrote:
    wprager wrote:
    shabbs wrote:
    wprager wrote:

    "Low and behold" Facepalm

    I stopped reading right there.
    Why?

    Because I cringe when the English language is abused.

    You should probably get off the internet then.
    Laughing3

    "i can haz cheezburger"

    Now that's abuse.

    Mmmmm. Cheeseburger.
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    Re: NHL CBA Talk

    Post by shabbs on Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:12 am

    So, my prediction for the next week: this mediator group will get the two sides in rooms for a few days of "marathon" sessions. This will result in no movement by each side. Mediation will end and the NHLPA will go down the decertification route. That will take us to the Dec. 5th NHL BOG meeting which should be an interesting one by then.

    Wake me when the NHLPA has filed for decertification.
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    Re: NHL CBA Talk

    Post by Hoags on Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:11 pm

    shabbs wrote:
    Wake me when the NHLPA has filed for decertification.

    Pretty much inevitable. Then it's only a question of whether that will lead to a quick settlement or will they battle it out in the courts over the next 1-2 years.

    I'm getting into NFL so I really don't care anymore whether they start up or not.
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    Re: NHL CBA Talk

    Post by shabbs on Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:29 pm

    Also important to note, when filing for Decertification, one of the requirements is to show that you have attempted mediation. So, they are likely just going through the motions in order to get to the decertificaiton process.

    NHL couldn't say "no" to the invite for mediation as that would have been horrible PR.

    So, the sides are positioning for the inevitable...
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    Re: NHL CBA Talk

    Post by Hoags on Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:14 pm

    shabbs wrote:Also important to note, when filing for Decertification, one of the requirements is to show that you have attempted mediation. So, they are likely just going through the motions in order to get to the decertificaiton process.

    Interesting that it's a prerequisite. I'm sure they're just threatening to decertify, just as much as the NHL isn't afraid of it.

    I believe the NHL can also go nuclear and declare an impasse and simply impose a CBA and bring in replacement players and let the players individually decide whether they want to break with their union and cross the picket line.
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    Re: NHL CBA Talk

    Post by SeawaySensFan on Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:18 pm

    Don Fehr's mentor, Marvin Miller, passes. http://www.tsn.ca/mlb/story/?id=410374
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    Re: NHL CBA Talk

    Post by shabbs on Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:26 pm

    Via Aaron Ward: NHLPA Executive Board and Negotiating Committee have a 4 PM (Eastern) conference call today. #TSN

    https://twitter.com/aaronward_nhl/status/273489075892281344
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    Re: NHL CBA Talk

    Post by spader on Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:36 pm

    Hoags wrote:
    shabbs wrote:Also important to note, when filing for Decertification, one of the requirements is to show that you have attempted mediation. So, they are likely just going through the motions in order to get to the decertificaiton process.

    Interesting that it's a prerequisite. I'm sure they're just threatening to decertify, just as much as the NHL isn't afraid of it.

    I believe the NHL can also go nuclear and declare an impasse and simply impose a CBA and bring in replacement players and let the players individually decide whether they want to break with their union and cross the picket line.

    Ha. I'm sure Hamrlik'd be there.
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    Re: NHL CBA Talk

    Post by SeawaySensFan on Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:40 pm

    Hoags wrote:
    shabbs wrote:Also important to note, when filing for Decertification, one of the requirements is to show that you have attempted mediation. So, they are likely just going through the motions in order to get to the decertificaiton process.

    Interesting that it's a prerequisite. I'm sure they're just threatening to decertify, just as much as the NHL isn't afraid of it.

    I believe the NHL can also go nuclear and declare an impasse and simply impose a CBA and bring in replacement players and let the players individually decide whether they want to break with their union and cross the picket line.

    They would have to have resorted to eating their own feces as I had predicted (hoped) first.

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