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1NHL CBA Talk Empty NHL CBA Talk on Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:37 pm

shabbs

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Via Renaud:

"The NHL is working on a response after the NHLPA made an offer today. Long night ahead folks."

https://twitter.com/RenLavoieRDS/status/286585665943117824

2NHL CBA Talk Empty Re: NHL CBA Talk on Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:38 pm

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Via David Pagnotta:

"Told NHLPA willing to accept 10-yr CBA & 6-yr contract term for free agents, but countered on 10% variance & cap number"

https://twitter.com/TheFourthPeriod/status/286580935879712769

3NHL CBA Talk Empty Re: NHL CBA Talk on Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:22 pm

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wprager wrote:
NEELY wrote:First Championship he has won... Spangler Cup or not it's something to hang his hat on and proves he can play on a winning team.

He must have one something in Minor Hockey. Even my kid in House-C has won a couple.

One something eh? Wink


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4NHL CBA Talk Empty Re: NHL CBA Talk on Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:48 pm

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Cap'n Clutch wrote:
wprager wrote:
NEELY wrote:First Championship he has won... Spangler Cup or not it's something to hang his hat on and proves he can play on a winning team.

He must have one something in Minor Hockey. Even my kid in House-C has won a couple.

One something eh? Wink
All for won and won for all!

5NHL CBA Talk Empty Re: NHL CBA Talk on Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:32 pm

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"He must have one for something in Minor Hockey..."

Better?


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6NHL CBA Talk Empty Re: NHL CBA Talk on Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:33 pm

shabbs

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Onederful.

7NHL CBA Talk Empty Re: NHL CBA Talk on Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:43 pm

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shabbs wrote:Via David Pagnotta:

"Told NHLPA willing to accept 10-yr CBA & 6-yr contract term for free agents, but countered on 10% variance & cap number"

https://twitter.com/TheFourthPeriod/status/286580935879712769

Pretty sure the league will say the 6 year contract goes with the 10% variance -- both were concessions on their part, from 5&5. Players have to be careful here because to anyone with a brain they are looking for loopholes to circumvent the cap. By doing this they are able to go over the cap to pay elite player more. Since there is no guarantee that cap hit is ever paid out in its entirety, they should only take payroll in calculating the players' share. If they do that that will create greater variance from year to year (because of the Parises and Suters of the NHL world). The players may not like that but they can't argue that it's not fair. Parity in the league will take a bit of a hit.


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8NHL CBA Talk Empty Re: NHL CBA Talk on Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:49 pm

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shabbs wrote:Via Sylvain St-Laurent:

"Jason Spezza leaves Switzerland, confident he will play in the NHL this winter. #Sens"

https://twitter.com/Syl_St_Laurent/status/286467423425679360

Start the return of the players...

I thought he stated late in Nov or early Dec that he would be leaving Switzerland after the Spengler Cup...

9NHL CBA Talk Empty Re: NHL CBA Talk on Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:53 pm

Cap'n Clutch

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wprager wrote:
shabbs wrote:Via David Pagnotta:

"Told NHLPA willing to accept 10-yr CBA & 6-yr contract term for free agents, but countered on 10% variance & cap number"

https://twitter.com/TheFourthPeriod/status/286580935879712769

Pretty sure the league will say the 6 year contract goes with the 10% variance -- both were concessions on their part, from 5&5. Players have to be careful here because to anyone with a brain they are looking for loopholes to circumvent the cap. By doing this they are able to go over the cap to pay elite player more. Since there is no guarantee that cap hit is ever paid out in its entirety, they should only take payroll in calculating the players' share. If they do that that will create greater variance from year to year (because of the Parises and Suters of the NHL world). The players may not like that but they can't argue that it's not fair. Parity in the league will take a bit of a hit.

Actually the initial NHL position to now is still a concession on the players part should they choose to accept it since the previous CBA had no variance and no contract limit. Regardless it shows the NHL is willing to move a bit off of their hard line stance and I agree the players better be careful how much they push for in this.



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10NHL CBA Talk Empty Re: NHL CBA Talk on Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:53 pm

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LeBrun snapped a pic of the media room today and caught Dreger in a hilarious pose... it's now going viral...

#DregerFace

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11NHL CBA Talk Empty Re: NHL CBA Talk on Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:56 pm

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wprager wrote:SensProspects is tweeting details. Deal done Jan. 7, camp starts Jan. 12, season starts Jan. 19. 35-game season. What??

SensProspects ‏@SensProspects wrote:

Hearing some great news: CBA deal done by 7th latest. Camp opens Jan 12th. Season starts Jan 19th.

Every teams play conference opponents once, division opponents five times. 35 game season!



35 game season? The NHL won't play less than 48 -- don't know where he got that number from. I won't believe there is a settlement coming until they actually tell me.. ie Fehr & Bettman..

12NHL CBA Talk Empty Re: NHL CBA Talk on Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:00 pm

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#DregerFace goes Gangnam Style!

http://www.jibjab.com/view/xcCmaKEmW8ofpaYF3eC0

13NHL CBA Talk Empty Re: NHL CBA Talk on Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:11 pm

shabbs

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Via LeBrun:

"Hearing both sides disappointed with lack of true movement in each other's new positions today... Key is to keep talking though.."

https://twitter.com/Real_ESPNLeBrun/status/286670344734011393

Ugh.

14NHL CBA Talk Empty Re: NHL CBA Talk on Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:30 pm

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Chris Botta:

"NHL isn't taking PA disclaimer seriously. Fehr isn't taking Bettman's Jan. 11 deadline seriously. The mistrust never ends. "

https://twitter.com/ChrisBottaNHL/status/286674704666882049

15NHL CBA Talk Empty Re: NHL CBA Talk on Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:02 pm

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That's why you never get your hopes up.... It can come crashing down AGAIN...

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