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31 Re: NHL CBA Talk on Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:22 pm

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Sounds like the NHLPA is asking the players to quickly re-vote on the DOI filing. Since they passed their internal deadline, they feel a need to re-vote for some reason.

Also, the cap floor has come up as an issue between owners. Teams don't want it to go up too much as many can't afford to even spend to the floor with the new rules.

32 Re: NHL CBA Talk on Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:32 pm

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shabbs wrote:Sounds like the NHLPA is asking the players to quickly re-vote on the DOI filing. Since they passed their internal deadline, they feel a need to re-vote for some reason.

Also, the cap floor has come up as an issue between owners. Teams don't want it to go up too much as many can't afford to even spend to the floor with the new rules.

This is where I am with the players. Too FU****** BAD!

33 Re: NHL CBA Talk on Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:59 pm

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shabbs wrote:Sounds like the NHLPA is asking the players to quickly re-vote on the DOI filing. Since they passed their internal deadline, they feel a need to re-vote for some reason.

Also, the cap floor has come up as an issue between owners. Teams don't want it to go up too much as many can't afford to even spend to the floor with the new rules.

I'm not sure how many teams "can't afford" to spend to the floor. I'm sure many don't want to spend to the floor, though.

34 Re: NHL CBA Talk on Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:05 pm

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Via Josh Rimer:

"Player told me "PA still feels NHL is purposely hiding money & that we've let all players know about it." This will take a little longer."

https://twitter.com/JoshRimerHockey/status/286902339154087936

Ugh.

35 Re: NHL CBA Talk on Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:27 pm

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And this is where I tell the PA to screw off. They opened up their books to them and they still don't buy it.

36 Re: NHL CBA Talk on Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:29 pm

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Chris Stevenson ‏@CJ_Stevenson wrote:

Hearing rumours NHL teams are reaching out to their coaches and telling them to be ready. Some are booking flites to their cities.


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37 Re: NHL CBA Talk on Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:53 pm

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wprager wrote:
Chris Stevenson ‏@CJ_Stevenson wrote:

Hearing rumours NHL teams are reaching out to their coaches and telling them to be ready. Some are booking flites to their cities.

I am sure I heard this in november...
Let's all just shut up and wait until Bettman says a deal is done.

38 Re: NHL CBA Talk on Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:02 pm

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Feeling is PA is just trying to get the most out of this that they can and once the deadline is actually here, the deal will be done.

39 Re: NHL CBA Talk on Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:08 pm

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Via Katie Strang:

"#CBA Sounds like the HRR/penalty issue, although it has since been resolved, only helped to further erode trust between two sides. "

https://twitter.com/KatieStrangESPN/status/286924986613133312

40 Re: NHL CBA Talk on Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:19 pm

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LeKid wrote:
wprager wrote:
Chris Stevenson ‏@CJ_Stevenson wrote:

Hearing rumours NHL teams are reaching out to their coaches and telling them to be ready. Some are booking flites to their cities.

I am sure I heard this in november...
Let's all just shut up and wait until Bettman says a deal is done.
Not sure if it's true...

Josh Rimer:

"Been told there's No Truth to rumours NHL contacting NHL Coaches telling them to be ready."

https://twitter.com/JoshRimerHockey/status/286929256670429185

41 Re: NHL CBA Talk on Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:34 pm

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It seems that a $60M cap in 2013/14 is the new hill the NHL will die on. NHLPA has come down to $65M and added in second compliance buyout...

So going from $70.2M to $60M. Heh. Those teams that spent large are going to be in trouble.

42 Re: NHL CBA Talk on Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:55 pm

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shabbs wrote:It seems that a $60M cap in 2013/14 is the new hill the NHL will die on. NHLPA has come down to $65M and added in second compliance buyout...

So going from $70.2M to $60M. Heh. Those teams that spent large are going to be in trouble.

The difference is 5M. How about they split it in the middle -- or do it at 63M? The issue is the floor. If the Cap ceiling is 65M then the floor is 49M.. which the NHL thinks is too high. Why don't they have a $20M or $25M flat difference between the high and the low? It's always been the floor causing the problems... not the high.

There has also been reports (Eklund again) that the NHL may consider a 30% salary variance within the contracts. Now that's more than the NHLPA requested... so what does the NHL want back? At least... if that is indeed the truth...

43 Re: NHL CBA Talk on Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:10 pm

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LeKid wrote:
wprager wrote:
Chris Stevenson ‏@CJ_Stevenson wrote:

Hearing rumours NHL teams are reaching out to their coaches and telling them to be ready. Some are booking flites to their cities.

I am sure I heard this in november...
Let's all just shut up and wait until Bettman says a deal is done.

See, this is why you only have >3< Boba Fetts.


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44 Re: NHL CBA Talk on Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:16 pm

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sandysensfan wrote:
The difference is 5M. How about they split it in the middle -- or do it at 63M? The issue is the floor. If the Cap ceiling is 65M then the floor is 49M.. which the NHL thinks is too high. Why don't they have a $20M or $25M flat difference between the high and the low? It's always been the floor causing the problems... not the high.

There has also been reports (Eklund again) that the NHL may consider a 30% salary variance within the contracts. Now that's more than the NHLPA requested... so what does the NHL want back? At least... if that is indeed the truth...

That's it in a nutshell. Spread the ceiling and floor, getting rid of stupid contracts, and, sure, the parity in the league takes a tumble, but that's what the draft is for -- the bad teams get better via higher picks. Aren't they also increasing the UFA age? That would allow those teams to hang on to their young stars a little longer.

30%? I'm really wondering -- and slightly worried -- about that. Unless they mean 30% year-over-year. The current 20% would be either on the average cap hit or the first year's salary. So if the player got $10M in year one, it could drop $2M in any subsequent year.


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45 Re: NHL CBA Talk on Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:43 pm

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The NHLPA has filed documents in court asking the courts to dismiss the NHL's suit. This was expected as they had to respond.

https://twitter.com/stevezipay/status/286944633852944386

"Meanwhile, NHLPA files motion in federal court in NY seeking to dismiss league's mid-December suit to have lockout declared legal, AP says. "

46 Re: NHL CBA Talk on Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:44 pm

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Players will start a new vote on DOI tonight. 48-hour window to complete.

General consensus is that this will go on for another week, right up to the deadline.

So sit back and relax.

47 Re: NHL CBA Talk on Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:33 pm

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#DregerFace goes mainstream!

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/photo-stressed-canadian-tv-reporter-408049

48 Re: NHL CBA Talk on Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:30 pm

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shabbs wrote:#DregerFace goes mainstream!

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/photo-stressed-canadian-tv-reporter-408049

Some in there I haven't even seen yet. The Godfather was really nice; loved the Bobby Orr flying goal.


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