General Hockey Talk - Injuries, signings, factoids + other news from around the league

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    Post by wprager on Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:56 am

    Yeah, but those aren't the only choices. I think unless someone knocks their socks off with an offer they'll keep both. Luongo is getting them points they'll need later *and* increasing his trade value.

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    Post by NEELY on Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:01 am

    wprager wrote:Yeah, but those aren't the only choices. I think unless someone knocks their socks off with an offer they'll keep both. Luongo is getting them points they'll need later *and* increasing his trade value.

    They could very well keep both, wouldn't be the worst idea because right now Luongo is the #1 and Schneider as of yet has not proven he is a capable #1. Seems like they have the same situation as a lot of other teams in the NHL but the media will hype it up as some rift, etc, etc, etc.

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    Re: General Hockey Talk - Injuries, signings, factoids + other news from around the league

    Post by LeCaptain on Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:01 am

    SImple in Vancouver. The Sedins are 33 now which means they have approx. 2-3 years left of contention. From there you decide if Schneider has what it takes to get them there. No question in my mind Luongo is better now, but 3 years from now if he hasn't led them to the promised land, they will look back and regret not trading him today.

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    Post by NEELY on Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:05 am

    LeKing wrote:SImple in Vancouver. The Sedins are 33 now which means they have approx. 2-3 years left of contention. From there you decide if Schneider has what it takes to get them there. No question in my mind Luongo is better now, but 3 years from now if he hasn't led them to the promised land, they will look back and regret not trading him today.

    3 years from now when Schneider is a UFA does he resign with a team that's going to come crashing down? Not sure it's that clear cut.
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    Post by PTFlea on Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:15 am

    NEELY wrote:Goalies play into their late 30's without issue, not buying that argument.

    Meh, that doesn't happen that often where they maintain that elite level into 36+.

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    Re: General Hockey Talk - Injuries, signings, factoids + other news from around the league

    Post by NEELY on Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:19 am

    SpezDispenser wrote:
    NEELY wrote:Goalies play into their late 30's without issue, not buying that argument.

    Meh, that doesn't happen that often where they maintain that elite level into 36+.

    Brodure, Thomas, Roy, Hasek, Belfore, Joesph, Vokoun, Kipper, etc,etc,etc
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    Post by PTFlea on Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:20 am

    NEELY wrote:
    SpezDispenser wrote:
    NEELY wrote:Goalies play into their late 30's without issue, not buying that argument.

    Meh, that doesn't happen that often where they maintain that elite level into 36+.

    Brodure, Thomas, Roy, Hasek, Belfore, Joesph, Vokoun, Kipper, etc,etc,etc

    Yeah...that's about it though. That's not really great odds.

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    Post by NEELY on Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:25 am

    Luongo is in the group, he will be good for another 5-8 years. The only guys that don't make it to their late 30's are the ones that never really established themselves as #1 guys over a long period of time.

    You can even say guys like Giguere, Theodore, and Irbe are marginal guys that played decent until their late 30's.
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    Post by Hoff-Machine on Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:18 pm

    LOL the luongo circus continues as Schneider's agent wants a resolution fast! Hmm I wonder if that has to do with Luongo starting 4 straight and winning....

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=415287

    "Our concern is we were hoping that this would be the year that Cory would play 75 per cent of the games," Liut told the Sun.

    "We are only interested in resolution, we are not going to get into the finger-pointing game and to that end you have to take a step back and you have to give them latitude to make a business decision."

    I'm with Neely on this. Schneider might be the guy to get dealt now....way more value in a trade.
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    Post by SeawaySensFan on Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:21 pm

    NEELY wrote:
    SpezDispenser wrote:
    NEELY wrote:Goalies play into their late 30's without issue, not buying that argument.

    Meh, that doesn't happen that often where they maintain that elite level into 36+.

    Brodure, Thomas, Roy, Hasek, Belfore, Joesph, Vokoun, Kipper, etc,etc,etc

    Your argument is still valid because Hedberg is twice the goaler Fraudeur is now or ever was.
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    Post by Flo The Action on Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:22 pm

    really? the starts he had this season weren't very impressive. might lower schneider's value. then again he is the younger out of the two. I see luongo as proven somewhat at least.
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    Post by Hoff-Machine on Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:02 pm

    Flo The Action wrote:really? the starts he had this season weren't very impressive. might lower schneider's value. then again he is the younger out of the two. I see luongo as proven somewhat at least.

    I just think if Luongo was half-as desired, he'd have been traded by now. I think the contract and age is what's really scaring people and Vancouver has got people believing that Schneider is the real deal.

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    Post by NEELY on Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:32 pm

    Michallica wrote:LOL the luongo circus continues as Schneider's agent wants a resolution fast! Hmm I wonder if that has to do with Luongo starting 4 straight and winning....

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=415287

    "Our concern is we were hoping that this would be the year that Cory would play 75 per cent of the games," Liut told the Sun.

    "We are only interested in resolution, we are not going to get into the finger-pointing game and to that end you have to take a step back and you have to give them latitude to make a business decision."

    I'm with Neely on this. Schneider might be the guy to get dealt now....way more value in a trade.

    At this point, IMO, it's an easy decision. Luongo wins year after year and Schneider has yet to prove he can outside of selected games. Amazing it's now about Schneider.
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    Re: General Hockey Talk - Injuries, signings, factoids + other news from around the league

    Post by shabbs on Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:10 pm

    If Schneider wants to be the #1 guy, he's gonna have to wait for Lalongo to lose a few and then get his change. He'll have to play lights out and run with it.
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    Re: General Hockey Talk - Injuries, signings, factoids + other news from around the league

    Post by PTFlea on Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:40 pm

    Who really cares anyway. If ever there was a team that was built to come close but not win the Cup, it's the Canucks.
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    Re: General Hockey Talk - Injuries, signings, factoids + other news from around the league

    Post by wprager on Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:21 pm

    By the way, where is the GDT?


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    Re: General Hockey Talk - Injuries, signings, factoids + other news from around the league

    Post by Hoags on Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:25 pm

    St. Louis down 5-0, Elliott 5GA on 12 shots
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    Re: General Hockey Talk - Injuries, signings, factoids + other news from around the league

    Post by wprager on Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:49 pm

    Hoags wrote:St. Louis down 5-0, Elliott 5GA on 12 shots

    Redden in the lineup?


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