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    Re: Question about BluRay player and old TV

    Post by shabbs on Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:40 am

    Cap'n Clutch wrote:
    wprager wrote:By the way, it's BluRay, not BlueRay. #SeaOfBlu

    No wonder I couldn't get my discs to work properly in them. That's the LAST time I trust some dude at a garage sale.
    You should upgrade to HD DVD.

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    Re: Question about BluRay player and old TV

    Post by Cap'n Clutch on Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:19 am

    Can probably get one cheap too!!!
    Brilliant!

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    Re: Question about BluRay player and old TV

    Post by wprager on Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:47 am

    Cap'n Clutch wrote:Can probably get one cheap too!!!
    Brilliant!

    Not sure about that. Items of historical value may be protected by state laws, you may not even be able to export HD-DVD players or media out of certain jurisdictions.
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    Re: Question about BluRay player and old TV

    Post by shabbs on Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:52 am

    My Tosh HD DVD player must be worth a MINT!

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    Re: Question about BluRay player and old TV

    Post by Cap'n Clutch on Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:34 am

    Soooo...

    Back to the actual question at hand. Can I or can I not hook up a "Smart Blu-Ray" player to the TV in question?


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    Re: Question about BluRay player and old TV

    Post by tim1_2 on Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:36 am

    Cap'n Clutch wrote:Soooo...

    Back to the actual question at hand. Can I or can I not hook up a "Smart Blu-Ray" player to the TV in question?

    Looking at the pic you provided of your TV inputs, as long as the Blu-Ray player has component-out (and I think they should all still have this), then yeah, I don't know why not.

    Edit: I see that not all new Blu-Ray players have component output, so double check this.
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    Re: Question about BluRay player and old TV

    Post by Ev on Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:20 pm

    Just get an hdmi to dvi adapter
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    Re: Question about BluRay player and old TV

    Post by Cap'n Clutch on Mon Dec 23, 2013 1:49 pm

    Ev wrote:Just get an hdmi to dvi adapter

    I apparently need to know if my tv supports HDCP or something which the techies here have yet to tell me. I posted my tv model # and .... nothin' Dammit!

    Also, if I can use that, where do I get it?


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    Re: Question about BluRay player and old TV

    Post by wprager on Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:05 pm

    DVI will not carry audio so you will need separate cables for that. I day your best (easiest) bet is to go with component. The PQ will not be any worse than HDMI, you don't have to worry about HDCP, and you can easily use the component cables (yellow/red/white) if you don't have component (connect re to re, yellow to green, white to blue -- anything, really, just so long as you connect red to red, blue to blue and green to green).


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    Re: Question about BluRay player and old TV

    Post by shabbs on Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:07 pm

    The Yellow/Red/White ones are composite.

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    Re: Question about BluRay player and old TV

    Post by Cap'n Clutch on Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:17 pm

    wprager wrote:DVI will not carry audio so you will need separate cables for that. I day your best (easiest) bet is to go with component. The PQ will not be any worse than HDMI, you don't have to worry about HDCP, and you can easily use the component cables (yellow/red/white) if you don't have component (connect re to re, yellow to green, white to blue -- anything, really, just so long as you connect red to red, blue to blue and green to green).

    So component to HDMI converter? I can't seem to find a Smart Blu-ray that has component as a connecter option.


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    Re: Question about BluRay player and old TV

    Post by wprager on Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:17 pm

    shabbs wrote:The Yellow/Red/White ones are composite.

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    You know what I meant smarta$$.


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    Re: Question about BluRay player and old TV

    Post by tim1_2 on Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:19 pm

    Not sure if you can really convert component to HDMI. You are better off looking on usedottawa or Kijiji for a slightly older Blu-Ray player that does have component. And you'll save money, so Prags approves!
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    Re: Question about BluRay player and old TV

    Post by wprager on Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:20 pm

    Cap'n Clutch wrote:
    wprager wrote:DVI will not carry audio so you will need separate cables for that. I day your best (easiest) bet is to go with component. The PQ will not be any worse than HDMI, you don't have to worry about HDCP, and you can easily use the component cables (yellow/red/white) if you don't have component (connect re to re, yellow to green, white to blue -- anything, really, just so long as you connect red to red, blue to blue and green to green).

    So component to HDMI converter? I can't seem to find a Smart Blu-ray that has component as a connecter option.

    No, forget the DVI port. Does your bluray player have red-green-blue RCA connectors (female)? Then use your composite cables (yelow/red/white) to connect to your TV's red/gree/blue RCA connectors.

    If your player doesn't have that then you have no choice but use a DVI to HDMI adaptor and hope your TV supports HDCP (it's tough to find detailed specs on a 10 year old set).


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    Re: Question about BluRay player and old TV

    Post by tim1_2 on Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:24 pm

    wprager wrote:
    Cap'n Clutch wrote:
    wprager wrote:DVI will not carry audio so you will need separate cables for that. I day your best (easiest) bet is to go with component. The PQ will not be any worse than HDMI, you don't have to worry about HDCP, and you can easily use the component cables (yellow/red/white) if you don't have component (connect re to re, yellow to green, white to blue -- anything, really, just so long as you connect red to red, blue to blue and green to green).

    So component to HDMI converter? I can't seem to find a Smart Blu-ray that has component as a connecter option.

    No, forget the DVI port. Does your bluray player have red-green-blue RCA connectors (female)? Then use your composite cables (yelow/red/white) to connect to your TV's red/gree/blue RCA connectors.

    If your player doesn't have that then you have no choice but use a DVI to HDMI adaptor and hope your TV supports HDCP (it's tough to find detailed specs on a 10 year old set).

    He doesn't have the bluray player yet, W.P. Rager.
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    Re: Question about BluRay player and old TV

    Post by Cap'n Clutch on Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:25 pm

    How about this???


    http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/startech-startech-dvi-to-hdmi-video-converter-with-audio-dvi2hdmia-dvi2hdmia/10213397.aspx?path=3052b534997a40f12dd510cc2530e892en02


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    Re: Question about BluRay player and old TV

    Post by tim1_2 on Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:35 pm

    Cap'n Clutch wrote:How about this???


    http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/startech-startech-dvi-to-hdmi-video-converter-with-audio-dvi2hdmia-dvi2hdmia/10213397.aspx?path=3052b534997a40f12dd510cc2530e892en02

    That may or may not solve your issue (HDCP could still be an issue).

    I am telling you that your best solution to this problem is to get a slightly older Blu-Ray player that has component.

    Here: http://ottawa.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-electronics-Sony-Blu-Ray-Disc-Player-with-remote-manual-HDMI-MINT-W0QQAdIdZ552090349
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    Re: Question about BluRay player and old TV

    Post by wprager on Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:03 pm

    Cap'n Clutch wrote:How about this???


    http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/startech-startech-dvi-to-hdmi-video-converter-with-audio-dvi2hdmia-dvi2hdmia/10213397.aspx?path=3052b534997a40f12dd510cc2530e892en02

    WTH is that? $77? And all it saves you is an audio connector to the TV (you still need audio cables to the adaptor, the only thing this thing does is combine DVI and audio onto HDMI out). That's a lot of money for the ability to hide a pair of audio cables (or a single TOS-link cable).

    I haven't seen a player in a while that had component outputs. Tim's right, you'd need to look at an older player. Of course finding one of those that also has smart tv functions will be difficult.

    You can also get a DVI to Component adaptor or adaptor/cable:

    http://www.monoprice.com/Search/Index?keyword=dvi+to+component

    You won't find these at a FS or BB, I don't think, but maybe a local PC store (if you don't want to wait for the shipping).

    BTW, double checked the inputs on your set and it won't take optical audio -- will have to go with simple RCA stereo.


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