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    Re: NHL Expansion (team in Vegas a "done deal")

    Post by shabbs on Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:48 am

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    Re: NHL Expansion (team in Vegas a "done deal")

    Post by shabbs on Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:13 am

    Adding 4 teams seems crazy.

    We go from barely any NHL expansion talk, with the NHL denying any plans consistently, to plans for 4 teams by 2017.

    Feast or famine for the NHL.

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    Post by tim1_2 on Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:17 am

    Expansion is natural, but it goes without saying the existing struggling teams should be relocated first.
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    Post by shabbs on Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:22 am

    Yeah, that's why I'm surprised. Fix the house before you expand. Makes me wonder how much they really are struggling.
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    Re: NHL Expansion (team in Vegas a "done deal")

    Post by 22_4_ever on Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:47 am

    Couple of things,

    I believe the Bruckheimers (spelling??) are involved in the Vegas team. They have been pushing for years to get a team and have gone so far as to offer their services and skills in the movie and promotion departments to elevate the NHL brand.

    Second with regards to the KHL, I doubt it's around in 5 years, at least not in the same manner you see now. 3 teams folded this past year and yes they added 3 more, but 2 of those I believe are from outside Russia. The model doesn't work as they only average slightly above 5 thousand and no real tv deal most if not all teams are hemorrhaging money. Their payrolls are too high for the revenue that they generate.

    So if they expand by 2017 I expect the KHL will drop or at least as we know it now. I'd hazard a guess 1/2 the KHL teams will disappear and most of the big money players will move back to the NHL. Travel is horrible, unless you are on one of the big 4 or 5 teams, and even then it's not uncommon to have to cross I think 7 timezones to play games.

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    Re: NHL Expansion (team in Vegas a "done deal")

    Post by wprager on Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:58 am

    Well, here's some water on the fire:

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    #NHL denies report that stated an expansion team in Las Vegas was a "done deal." http://ow.ly/AM8RJ


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    Re: NHL Expansion (team in Vegas a "done deal")

    Post by Ev on Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:02 am

    22_4_ever wrote:Couple of things,

    I believe the Bruckheimers (spelling??) are involved in the Vegas team. They have been pushing for years to get a team and have gone so far as to offer their services and skills in the movie and promotion departments to elevate the NHL brand.

    Second with regards to the KHL, I doubt it's around in 5 years, at least not in the same manner you see now. 3 teams folded this past year and yes they added 3 more, but 2 of those I believe are from outside Russia. The model doesn't work as they only average slightly above 5 thousand and no real tv deal most if not all teams are hemorrhaging money. Their payrolls are too high for the revenue that they generate.

    So if they expand by 2017 I expect the KHL will drop or at least as we know it now. I'd hazard a guess 1/2 the KHL teams will disappear and most of the big money players will move back to the NHL. Travel is horrible, unless you are on one of the big 4 or 5 teams, and even then it's not uncommon to have to cross I think 7 timezones to play games.


    that's a good point, about the KHL players. At least we'll get decent players and not have to have a team full of AHL scrubs and Kassian
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    Re: NHL Expansion (team in Vegas a "done deal")

    Post by SeawaySensFan on Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:03 am

    wprager wrote:Well, here's some water on the fire:

    Sportsnet ‏@Sportsnet

    #NHL denies report that stated an expansion team in Las Vegas was a "done deal." http://ow.ly/AM8RJ

    NHL denials = done deal.
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    Re: NHL Expansion (team in Vegas a "done deal")

    Post by shabbs on Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:04 am

    SeawaySensFan wrote:
    wprager wrote:Well, here's some water on the fire:

    Sportsnet ‏@Sportsnet

    #NHL denies report that stated an expansion team in Las Vegas was a "done deal." http://ow.ly/AM8RJ

    NHL denials = done deal.
    Book it.
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    Re: NHL Expansion (team in Vegas a "done deal")

    Post by wprager on Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:43 am

    OK, back to the Vegas team names. So far we have:

    The Gamblers
    The Bookies (or Bookmakers)
    The Odds
    The Expansion Fees (Shabbs already has a logo in mind: $$$)

    Any others?


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    Re: NHL Expansion (team in Vegas a "done deal")

    Post by tim1_2 on Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:10 am

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    Re: NHL Expansion (team in Vegas a "done deal")

    Post by LeCaptain on Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:18 am

    The only way I would care about this is if it increases the Sens' chance for a Stanley Cup

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    Re: NHL Expansion (team in Vegas a "done deal")

    Post by DefenceWinsChampionships on Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:20 am

    Looks like it's Seattle, Toronto (GTA), Quebec City, and Vegas. I wonder which ones Florida and Arizona become
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    Re: NHL Expansion (team in Vegas a "done deal")

    Post by shabbs on Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:33 am

    The Vegas Gold Diggers.
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    The Vegas Slot Machines.
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    The Vegas Poker Chips.
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    Post by shabbs on Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:34 am

    The Vegas Rebels (to match UNLV).
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