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    Re: Ottawa Prospect watch 14-15

    Post by wprager on Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:40 am

    SpezDispensed wrote:I guess he got beat out. He was injured for a while, perhaps that hurt him. It would have been nice, but all we should care about is how good he looks right now and how he's making a name for himself with or without the juniors.

    How common is a PPG D-man in the OHL? And how many of those are 5'8" and 175 lbs?

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    Post by NEELY on Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:44 am

    Not that uncommon.

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    Post by wprager on Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:48 am

    Actually there are quite a few PPG D-men in the league, oh well. None of them come close to 6'6" of course.

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    Re: Ottawa Prospect watch 14-15

    Post by NEELY on Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:59 am

    Harpur is a nice looking prospect, hopefully he turns out. 6'6 and can skate, there's usually a spot on an NHL team somewhere.
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    Re: Ottawa Prospect watch 14-15

    Post by PTFlea on Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:04 am

    wprager wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:I guess he got beat out. He was injured for a while, perhaps that hurt him. It would have been nice, but all we should care about is how good he looks right now and how he's making a name for himself with or without the juniors.

    How common is a PPG D-man in the OHL? And how many of those are 5'8" and 175 lbs?

    You answered you own question there, they grow on trees. However, what doesn't grow on trees is 6'6", mobile guys who can also contribute offensively, so this bodes well for him at this level. Long way to go, but an exciting prospect.
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    Re: Ottawa Prospect watch 14-15

    Post by LeCaptain on Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:08 am

    Big defensemen are awful at the WJC
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    Re: Ottawa Prospect watch 14-15

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    SpezDispensed wrote:
    wprager wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:I guess he got beat out. He was injured for a while, perhaps that hurt him. It would have been nice, but all we should care about is how good he looks right now and how he's making a name for himself with or without the juniors.

    How common is a PPG D-man in the OHL? And how many of those are 5'8" and 175 lbs?

    You answered you own question there, they grow on trees. However, what doesn't grow on trees is 6'6", mobile guys who can also contribute offensively, so this bodes well for him at this level. Long way to go, but an exciting prospect.

    Shoots left so he'll probably be rushed into the NHL lineup to address our perceived crisis on the left side.
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    Re: Ottawa Prospect watch 14-15

    Post by wprager on Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:51 am

    Wonder if Harpur's progress makes Cowen in a trade a little more palatable.


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    Re: Ottawa Prospect watch 14-15

    Post by tim1_2 on Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:58 am

    There's years of development between Harpur and Cowen...but I see what you're getting at. We've got Wideman and Claesson waiting in the wings for their shot, so trading any d-man outside of Karlsson and Ceci isn't really that big a deal in the grand scheme of things. I still thing obtaining a stud LD is a priority, but we'll need to clear some d-men off our roster to help that along.
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    Post by PTFlea on Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:12 pm

    Not sure when Wideman will get a shot. I guess if/when one of the right handers gets injured, because all three have cemented themselves as NHLers long term IMO.
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    SpezDispensed wrote:Not sure when Wideman will get a shot. I guess if/when one of the right handers gets injured, because all three have cemented themselves as NHLers long term IMO.

    Yeah, only injuries will allow him a crack at the NHL this year. He is really good trade-bait though with the numbers he's putting up.

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    Re: Ottawa Prospect watch 14-15

    Post by NEELY on Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:30 pm

    Wideman will get a shot at some point even if it means having more righties than lefties on the point this year towards the end. Tim is right about the trade bait though, there's a guy who could attract some attention and could be a sweetener in any deal. He will be a decent to good NHLer IMO and I have had that view since the Sens drafted him.
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    Re: Ottawa Prospect watch 14-15

    Post by PTFlea on Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:31 pm

    tim1_2 wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:Not sure when Wideman will get a shot. I guess if/when one of the right handers gets injured, because all three have cemented themselves as NHLers long term IMO.

    Yeah, only injuries will allow him a crack at the NHL this year. He is really good trade-bait though with the numbers he's putting up.

    Maybe...it's so hard to say, right? The pessimist in me thinks that every NHL team has - or thinks they have - a Chris Wideman, so the worth on him might be really low.
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    Re: Ottawa Prospect watch 14-15

    Post by tim1_2 on Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:35 pm

    SpezDispensed wrote:
    tim1_2 wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:Not sure when Wideman will get a shot. I guess if/when one of the right handers gets injured, because all three have cemented themselves as NHLers long term IMO.

    Yeah, only injuries will allow him a crack at the NHL this year. He is really good trade-bait though with the numbers he's putting up.

    Maybe...it's so hard to say, right? The pessimist in me thinks that every NHL team has - or thinks they have - a Chris Wideman, so the worth on him might be really low.

    Yeah, there's a few AHL d-men with similar numbers. And he is a small player (5'10", 175lbs), but this doesn't matter like it used to.
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    Re: Ottawa Prospect watch 14-15

    Post by PTFlea on Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:36 pm

    tim1_2 wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:
    tim1_2 wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:Not sure when Wideman will get a shot. I guess if/when one of the right handers gets injured, because all three have cemented themselves as NHLers long term IMO.

    Yeah, only injuries will allow him a crack at the NHL this year. He is really good trade-bait though with the numbers he's putting up.

    Maybe...it's so hard to say, right? The pessimist in me thinks that every NHL team has - or thinks they have - a Chris Wideman, so the worth on him might be really low.

    Yeah, there's a few AHL d-men with similar numbers. And he is a small player (5'10", 175lbs), but this doesn't matter like it used to.

    Such an interesting question. I'd love to know what teams would offer for Wideman.
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    Re: Ottawa Prospect watch 14-15

    Post by tim1_2 on Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:41 pm

    SpezDispensed wrote:
    tim1_2 wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:
    tim1_2 wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:Not sure when Wideman will get a shot. I guess if/when one of the right handers gets injured, because all three have cemented themselves as NHLers long term IMO.

    Yeah, only injuries will allow him a crack at the NHL this year. He is really good trade-bait though with the numbers he's putting up.

    Maybe...it's so hard to say, right? The pessimist in me thinks that every NHL team has - or thinks they have - a Chris Wideman, so the worth on him might be really low.

    Yeah, there's a few AHL d-men with similar numbers. And he is a small player (5'10", 175lbs), but this doesn't matter like it used to.

    Such an interesting question. I'd love to know what teams would offer for Wideman.

    I'd peg his current value at a 2nd rounder.
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    Re: Ottawa Prospect watch 14-15

    Post by Flo The Action on Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:51 pm

    tim1_2 wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:
    tim1_2 wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:
    tim1_2 wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:Not sure when Wideman will get a shot. I guess if/when one of the right handers gets injured, because all three have cemented themselves as NHLers long term IMO.

    Yeah, only injuries will allow him a crack at the NHL this year. He is really good trade-bait though with the numbers he's putting up.

    Maybe...it's so hard to say, right? The pessimist in me thinks that every NHL team has - or thinks they have - a Chris Wideman, so the worth on him might be really low.

    Yeah, there's a few AHL d-men with similar numbers. And he is a small player (5'10", 175lbs), but this doesn't matter like it used to.

    Such an interesting question. I'd love to know what teams would offer for Wideman.

    I'd peg his current value at a 2nd rounder.
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    Re: Ottawa Prospect watch 14-15

    Post by SeawaySensFan on Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:57 pm

    tim1_2 wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:
    tim1_2 wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:Not sure when Wideman will get a shot. I guess if/when one of the right handers gets injured, because all three have cemented themselves as NHLers long term IMO.

    Yeah, only injuries will allow him a crack at the NHL this year. He is really good trade-bait though with the numbers he's putting up.

    Maybe...it's so hard to say, right? The pessimist in me thinks that every NHL team has - or thinks they have - a Chris Wideman, so the worth on him might be really low.

    Yeah, there's a few AHL d-men with similar numbers. And he is a small player (5'10", 175lbs), but this doesn't matter like it used to.

    Dave Ezard was 105 pt. D-Man with what's been called one of the hardest shots ever and a Memorial Cup MVP. Never got drafted. Why? 5-7, 153 lbs.

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