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    Post by NEELY on Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:53 pm

    Gryba is a pretty easy piece to move and truth be told, he is what he is. Ottawa needs a puck mover on that last pairing and Wideman could very easily be that guy. They put years into his development, he's dominated the AHL, and he's ready for a shot in the show, it would be stupid to let him just walk.

    Gryba you might only get a 4th or 5th round pick next year but getting 2 plus seasons out of a 3rd rounder and fairly successful ones at that and that's probably good. A place like Colorado or Edmonton are obvious landing spots again.

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    Post by DefenceWinsChampionships on Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:54 pm

    Flo The Action wrote:
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    I like that last comment but I don't like it also.
    I don't trust their rating but I like that they aren't just leaving it to best offer. I think they are looking at the now and not the future.Lehner is the likely one that gets traded and that's too bad.

    I just hope it's not a second round pick coming our way. I want a  true bonafied top 6 LW. Make it happen Murray!

    Ya I want value coming back. Not a pick and a salary dump.

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    Post by NEELY on Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:59 pm

    There is value in dumping the salary if they use it to bring in a good UFA, it would be jsut like trading for one.
    Say they use Legwand and Greening's money to give Williams a 3, 4 year deal to help a young team out? To me that's worth taking a lesser draft pick in a trade for Lehner then getting the 16th or w/e else.
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    Post by PTFlea on Thu Jun 18, 2015 1:07 pm

    I don't think you'll have an issue moving Legwand. Greening you will though.
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    Post by SeawaySensFan on Thu Jun 18, 2015 1:26 pm

    SpezDispensed wrote:I don't think you'll have an issue moving Legwand.  Greening you will though.

    If there's genuine interest in Greening, as is being reported, it might not be that hard to move him if you retain a few bucks.

    Without really making much of an effort, it's pretty easy to see a move like Sharp for Michalek and maybe Gryba. Chicago fills two holes and saves a few bucks as well. How many other teams in the league can make a deal like that?

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    Post by DefenceWinsChampionships on Thu Jun 18, 2015 1:27 pm

    SpezDispensed wrote:I don't think you'll have an issue moving Legwand.  Greening you will though.

    Arizone seems like the logical fit for Legwand. One year deal and they need help reaching the floor.

    With Greening you have to be prepared to eat half of his salary.
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    Post by PTFlea on Thu Jun 18, 2015 1:30 pm

    SeawaySensFan wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:I don't think you'll have an issue moving Legwand.  Greening you will though.

    If there's genuine interest in Greening, as is being reported, it might not be that hard to move him if you retain a few bucks.

    Without really making much of an effort, it's pretty easy to see a move like Sharp for Michalek and maybe Gryba. Chicago fills two holes and saves a few bucks as well. How many other teams in the league can make a deal like that?

    Uh, Diddle yeah! I wish Chicago would do this.

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    Post by DefenceWinsChampionships on Thu Jun 18, 2015 1:49 pm

    SpezDispensed wrote:
    SeawaySensFan wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:I don't think you'll have an issue moving Legwand.  Greening you will though.

    If there's genuine interest in Greening, as is being reported, it might not be that hard to move him if you retain a few bucks.

    Without really making much of an effort, it's pretty easy to see a move like Sharp for Michalek and maybe Gryba. Chicago fills two holes and saves a few bucks as well. How many other teams in the league can make a deal like that?

    Uh, Diddle yeah!  I wish Chicago would do this.

    They were rumored last year to have interest in Smith. Even Smith, Gryba + 4th rd pick for Sharp is a win for both teams
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    Post by PTFlea on Thu Jun 18, 2015 1:54 pm

    DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:
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    SpezDispensed wrote:I don't think you'll have an issue moving Legwand.  Greening you will though.

    If there's genuine interest in Greening, as is being reported, it might not be that hard to move him if you retain a few bucks.

    Without really making much of an effort, it's pretty easy to see a move like Sharp for Michalek and maybe Gryba. Chicago fills two holes and saves a few bucks as well. How many other teams in the league can make a deal like that?

    Uh, Diddle yeah!  I wish Chicago would do this.

    They were rumored last year to have interest in Smith. Even Smith, Gryba + 4th rd pick for Sharp is a win for both teams

    Yes please? You're saying I could turn Smith, Gryba and a 4th into Patrick Sharp? I'd say, yes please and I'd drive those two plugs to the airport.
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    Post by PTFlea on Thu Jun 18, 2015 2:27 pm

    Player signing for Ottawa apparently. No one knows who yet.
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    Post by PTFlea on Thu Jun 18, 2015 2:27 pm

    Ottawa Senators ✔@Senators
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    Post by DefenceWinsChampionships on Thu Jun 18, 2015 2:28 pm

    SpezDispensed wrote:
    DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:
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    SpezDispensed wrote:I don't think you'll have an issue moving Legwand.  Greening you will though.

    If there's genuine interest in Greening, as is being reported, it might not be that hard to move him if you retain a few bucks.

    Without really making much of an effort, it's pretty easy to see a move like Sharp for Michalek and maybe Gryba. Chicago fills two holes and saves a few bucks as well. How many other teams in the league can make a deal like that?

    Uh, Diddle yeah!  I wish Chicago would do this.

    They were rumored last year to have interest in Smith. Even Smith, Gryba + 4th rd pick for Sharp is a win for both teams

    Yes please?  You're saying I could turn Smith, Gryba and a 4th into Patrick Sharp?  I'd say, yes please and I'd drive those two plugs to the airport.  

    Well you have to look at their cap and needs. Chicagoe needs a d-man (not a top four), they need some depth, and they need cap relief.

    Sharp is a piece that the Hawks can live without. He's got two more years until he's a UFA and he's got a cap hit of $5.9M per season (salary of $5.5M and $5.0M respectively).

    Gryba has one year left at $1.25M ($1.3M salary) and Smith has two years at approximately $1.9M ($2M and $2.35M) respectively.

    Chicago cap hit out: $2.75M (year one) and they get two players and a pick and salary of $5.65M (total)
    Ottawa cap hit in: $2.75M (year one) and a salary of $10.5M (total)

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    Post by PTFlea on Thu Jun 18, 2015 2:34 pm

    DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:
    DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:
    SeawaySensFan wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:I don't think you'll have an issue moving Legwand.  Greening you will though.

    If there's genuine interest in Greening, as is being reported, it might not be that hard to move him if you retain a few bucks.

    Without really making much of an effort, it's pretty easy to see a move like Sharp for Michalek and maybe Gryba. Chicago fills two holes and saves a few bucks as well. How many other teams in the league can make a deal like that?

    Uh, Diddle yeah!  I wish Chicago would do this.

    They were rumored last year to have interest in Smith. Even Smith, Gryba + 4th rd pick for Sharp is a win for both teams

    Yes please?  You're saying I could turn Smith, Gryba and a 4th into Patrick Sharp?  I'd say, yes please and I'd drive those two plugs to the airport.  

    Well you have to look at their cap and needs. Chicagoe needs a d-man (not a top four), they need some depth, and they need cap relief.

    Sharp is a piece that the Hawks can live without. He's got two more years until he's a UFA and he's got a cap hit of $5.9M per season (salary of $5.5M and $5.0M respectively).

    Gryba has one year left at $1.25M ($1.3M salary) and Smith has two years at approximately $1.9M ($2M and $2.35M) respectively.

    Chicago cap hit out:  $2.75M (year one) and they get two players and a pick and salary of $5.65M (total)
    Ottawa cap hit in: $2.75M (year one) and a salary of $10.5M (total)


    I'd tell teams to kiss my arse and send over a 1st if they want Sharp. And I'd stand by that, but maybe Bowman has other ideas. I'd be so pleased if this happened...
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    Post by spader on Thu Jun 18, 2015 2:37 pm

    SeawaySensFan wrote:
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    DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:When can teams start making trades? I understand that minor league trades can happen now, but when can players on one-way NHL contracts be traded?

    I'm guessing anytime because the deadline only applies if you want the player you acquire to be eligible for the playoffs.

    Hmmm, well I mean you couldn't trade players after the trade deadline so I guess I was wondering when you can start trading players? Anyway, your answer makes sense I guess.

    You can trade players after the deadline. The players dealt would have to sit out for the playoffs if you got in.

    The Rangers made a trade during the playoffs. Some plug for a 7th I believe. I remember thinking that I should remember the details since so many people aren't clear on the fact that the trade deadline is really an "eligible to play" deadline.

    I forgot the details. Google didn't. The article was a couple days after the trade. The trade happened during the Rags/Lightning series.

    http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/breaking-down-lightning-rangers-complicated-trade/
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    Post by PTFlea on Thu Jun 18, 2015 2:39 pm

    Pageau extended 2 years.

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    Post by DefenceWinsChampionships on Thu Jun 18, 2015 2:40 pm

    SpezDispensed wrote:
    DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:
    DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:
    SeawaySensFan wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:I don't think you'll have an issue moving Legwand.  Greening you will though.

    If there's genuine interest in Greening, as is being reported, it might not be that hard to move him if you retain a few bucks.

    Without really making much of an effort, it's pretty easy to see a move like Sharp for Michalek and maybe Gryba. Chicago fills two holes and saves a few bucks as well. How many other teams in the league can make a deal like that?

    Uh, Diddle yeah!  I wish Chicago would do this.

    They were rumored last year to have interest in Smith. Even Smith, Gryba + 4th rd pick for Sharp is a win for both teams

    Yes please?  You're saying I could turn Smith, Gryba and a 4th into Patrick Sharp?  I'd say, yes please and I'd drive those two plugs to the airport.  

    Well you have to look at their cap and needs. Chicagoe needs a d-man (not a top four), they need some depth, and they need cap relief.

    Sharp is a piece that the Hawks can live without. He's got two more years until he's a UFA and he's got a cap hit of $5.9M per season (salary of $5.5M and $5.0M respectively).

    Gryba has one year left at $1.25M ($1.3M salary) and Smith has two years at approximately $1.9M ($2M and $2.35M) respectively.

    Chicago cap hit out:  $2.75M (year one) and they get two players and a pick and salary of $5.65M (total)
    Ottawa cap hit in: $2.75M (year one) and a salary of $10.5M (total)


    I'd tell teams to kiss my arse and send over a 1st if they want Sharp.  And I'd stand by that, but maybe Bowman has other ideas.  I'd be so pleased if this happened...

    Ya and when you can't sign Kruger and Saad and you only have three defenceman and eight forwards signed with $64M committed against the cap you'd be kissing your own arse when you can't sign your key players because you're holding out for a pick.
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    Post by SeawaySensFan on Thu Jun 18, 2015 2:42 pm

    Bruce Garrioch ‏@SunGarrioch 2m2 minutes ago

    Pageau gets $1.8 million over two years. #Sens


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    Post by DefenceWinsChampionships on Thu Jun 18, 2015 2:44 pm

    SpezDispensed wrote:
    DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:
    DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:
    SeawaySensFan wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:I don't think you'll have an issue moving Legwand.  Greening you will though.

    If there's genuine interest in Greening, as is being reported, it might not be that hard to move him if you retain a few bucks.

    Without really making much of an effort, it's pretty easy to see a move like Sharp for Michalek and maybe Gryba. Chicago fills two holes and saves a few bucks as well. How many other teams in the league can make a deal like that?

    Uh, Diddle yeah!  I wish Chicago would do this.

    They were rumored last year to have interest in Smith. Even Smith, Gryba + 4th rd pick for Sharp is a win for both teams

    Yes please?  You're saying I could turn Smith, Gryba and a 4th into Patrick Sharp?  I'd say, yes please and I'd drive those two plugs to the airport.  

    Well you have to look at their cap and needs. Chicagoe needs a d-man (not a top four), they need some depth, and they need cap relief.

    Sharp is a piece that the Hawks can live without. He's got two more years until he's a UFA and he's got a cap hit of $5.9M per season (salary of $5.5M and $5.0M respectively).

    Gryba has one year left at $1.25M ($1.3M salary) and Smith has two years at approximately $1.9M ($2M and $2.35M) respectively.

    Chicago cap hit out:  $2.75M (year one) and they get two players and a pick and salary of $5.65M (total)
    Ottawa cap hit in: $2.75M (year one) and a salary of $10.5M (total)


    I'd tell teams to kiss my arse and send over a 1st if they want Sharp.  And I'd stand by that, but maybe Bowman has other ideas.  I'd be so pleased if this happened...

    Ya and when you can't sign Kruger and Saad and you only have three defenceman and eight forwards signed with $64M committed against the cap you'd be kissing your own arse when you can't sign your key players because you're holding out for a pick.

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