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wprager


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Definitely would be pressure to do so. In the form of players on two-ways possibly being sent down to Bingo.

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SeawaySensFan wrote:Hoffman updates?

He's no David Hasselhoff...Man

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Cap'n Clutch wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:Hoffman updates?

He's no David Hasselhoff...Man

So much for the Sens developing a German fanbase.

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spader wrote:
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wprager wrote:Hoffman's asking $3.8M, Sens coming in at $2M.

Even 3.8 isn't completely insane for Hoffman's production. Obviously, we all want to see a cheaper deal.

Agreed. If he was asking for $5M, I'd be Suspect , but $3.8 is actually fairly reasonable, but it would be nice if he came in under $3M. If he repeats, he'll get a serious payday in a year or two.

I actually don't mind if it comes down to a $4+ mil / 1 year deal with Hoffman. With that kind of money, DC will be forced to give him more opportunities to produce. And then we can find out what kind of player he really is.

I'm not convinced that's a thing. I really don't think Murray orders his HC to play certain people according to their pay scale. It's certainly possible, but I really think that there's a level of removal between the HC and a player's caphit.

I'm guessing one year, $3.25M. He scores 25 goals and Ottawa signs him to a 4 x $4M per contract. I think he'll elevate the play of Zib and Ryan as well. Ryan will return to 25-30 G as well this year.

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I don't even think it gets to arbitration, they will probably sign a 3 year deal close to what Stone got, maybe a little less, and then just move on. Hoffman deserves a little more respect than Chaisson and I'm not that big of a fan.

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
Cap'n Clutch wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:Hoffman updates?

He's no David Hasselhoff...Man

So much for the Sens developing a German fanbase.

They tried that, but Heatley turned out to be a Heatbag.

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DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:
I'm guessing one year, $3.25M. He scores 25 goals and Ottawa signs him to a 4 x $4M per contract. I think he'll elevate the play of Zib and Ryan as well. Ryan will return to 25-30 G as well this year.

Hoffman is not a puck distributor. I doubt he will elevate Ryan's goal production.


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NEELY wrote:I don't even think it gets to arbitration, they will probably sign a 3 year deal close to what Stone got, maybe a little less, and then just move on.  Hoffman deserves a little more respect than Chaisson and I'm not that big of a fan.

Still, everyone thinks it'll go to arbitration.

If I was Hoffman, I'd certainly not want to take a discount. Doesn't look like Cameron has confidence in him (despite his good +/-) so he's not likely to get the minutes or the linemates to have a chance to repeat (I assume that's what it will take, as his PDO *will* regress).


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wprager wrote:
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I'm guessing one year, $3.25M. He scores 25 goals and Ottawa signs him to a 4 x $4M per contract. I think he'll elevate the play of Zib and Ryan as well. Ryan will return to 25-30 G as well this year.

Hoffman is not a puck distributor.  I doubt he will elevate Ryan's goal production.

Will take defensive pressure off of Ryan

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wprager wrote:
NEELY wrote:I don't even think it gets to arbitration, they will probably sign a 3 year deal close to what Stone got, maybe a little less, and then just move on.  Hoffman deserves a little more respect than Chaisson and I'm not that big of a fan.

Still, everyone thinks it'll go to arbitration.

If I was Hoffman, I'd certainly not want to take a discount.  Doesn't look like Cameron has confidence in him (despite his good +/-) so he's not likely to get the minutes or the linemates to have a chance to repeat (I assume that's what it will take, as his PDO *will* regress).

We'll see, Chaisson was an exception going to arbitration, not the rule.

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wprager wrote:Hoffman's asking $3.8M, Sens coming in at $2M.


Tim Wharnsby
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#Sens Mike Hoffman salary arbitration
Club offer: $1.75m
Player asking: $3.4m


Close but WRONG, as usual.

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He will get $3 in arb.

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
wprager wrote:Hoffman's asking $3.8M, Sens coming in at $2M.


Tim Wharnsby
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#Sens Mike Hoffman salary arbitration
Club offer: $1.75m
Player asking: $3.4m


Close but WRONG, as usual.

You must be talking about Simmer as I only repeated what he tweeted.

$3.4M sounds very reasonable, I'd interpret this as him wanting to stay and not just try to make the most $$$ he can.


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wprager wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
wprager wrote:Hoffman's asking $3.8M, Sens coming in at $2M.


Tim Wharnsby
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#Sens Mike Hoffman salary arbitration
Club offer: $1.75m
Player asking: $3.4m


Close but WRONG, as usual.

You must be talking about Simmer as I only repeated what he tweeted.  

$3.4M sounds very reasonable, I'd interpret this as him wanting to stay and not just try to make the most $$$ he can.

Sure. I feel fine saying that The Hockey Simmer is WRONG!!!!

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wprager wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
wprager wrote:Hoffman's asking $3.8M, Sens coming in at $2M.


Tim Wharnsby
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#Sens Mike Hoffman salary arbitration
Club offer: $1.75m
Player asking: $3.4m


Close but WRONG, as usual.

You must be talking about Simmer as I only repeated what he tweeted.  

$3.4M sounds very reasonable, I'd interpret this as him wanting to stay and not just try to make the most $$$ he can.
as I told you, he wasn't tweeting facts, he was predicting/guessing

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If those figures are accurate I find it hard to believe they cannot come to an agreement.

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I honestly think a one year deal makes sense for both sides. You'd think they'd be able to come to a $2.8Mish compromise before arbitration, but who knows.

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Just give him 3 mil for one year. Who cares? He'll likely earn it as he has filthy skills and speed to burn. Let's do it.

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