VOTE - Ottawa Senators Top Prospects: #1 (2015)

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    Who is Ottawa's female parental unit diddling top prospect (under 25 NHL GP)?

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    Re: VOTE - Ottawa Senators Top Prospects: #1 (2015)

    Post by Ev on Mon Jul 13, 2015 4:15 pm

    you know even if you do the rankings by draft position only, it's still close to actual rankings IMO.

    Chabot
    White
    Puempel
    Gagne
    Englund
    Chlapik
    Prince
    Driedger
    Hogberg
    Paul
    Lindberg

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    Re: VOTE - Ottawa Senators Top Prospects: #1 (2015)

    Post by spader on Mon Jul 13, 2015 4:24 pm

    Flo The Action wrote:You ladies are terrible.


    Top prospect simply means highest upside combined with possibility of achieving those expectations. Not in one year but in the long run. In other words in the players NHL career. And yes it can't be evaluated after one year.
    Now quit your Wing Dang Doodle and contribute.


    I voted for pumpel simply because he really looks like he's gonna be a good top 6 forward and his chances to succeed are looking really good. I like Paul but I'm not sure if he's top 6 or top 9. I would probably rate chabot ahead of him right now.

    This is exactly what I mean by "highest attainable upside."

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    Re: VOTE - Ottawa Senators Top Prospects: #1 (2015)

    Post by SeawaySensFan on Mon Jul 13, 2015 4:29 pm

    Ev wrote:you know even if you do the rankings by draft position only, it's still close to actual rankings IMO.

    Chabot
    White
    Puempel
    Gagne
    Englund
    Chlapik
    Prince
    Driedger
    Hogberg
    Paul
    Lindberg

    Poll closed?
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    Re: VOTE - Ottawa Senators Top Prospects: #1 (2015)

    Post by PTFlea on Mon Jul 13, 2015 4:39 pm

    It's the guy who has the most chance of succeeding in the NHL IMO. I picked White because of all the guys we have, I think when he makes the NHL he'll make the biggest impact.
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    Re: VOTE - Ottawa Senators Top Prospects: #1 (2015)

    Post by Flo The Action on Mon Jul 13, 2015 4:47 pm

    SpezDispensed wrote:It's the guy who has the most chance of succeeding in the NHL IMO. I picked White because of all the guys we have, I think when he makes the NHL he'll make the biggest impact.
    Really? I think there's a lot of debate about his upside. He's another guy that could also end up being a top 9. I don't know where I stand on him as well. It seems like he does a. Lot of things right but there's questions about his ability to manifacture offence. I guess it will be interesting to see how well the organization get these guys to develop. Without many pure skills type of guys it's not the same learning curve.

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    Re: VOTE - Ottawa Senators Top Prospects: #1 (2015)

    Post by spader on Mon Jul 13, 2015 4:50 pm

    Flo The Action wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:It's the guy who has the most chance of succeeding in the NHL IMO. I picked White because of all the guys we have, I think when he makes the NHL he'll make the biggest impact.
    Really? I think there's a lot of debate about his upside. He's another guy that could also end up being a top 9. I don't know where I stand on him as well. It seems like he does a. Lot of things right but there's questions about his ability to manifacture offence. I guess it will be interesting to see how well the organization get these guys to develop. Without many pure skills type of guys it's not the same learning curve.


    Agreed. The lack of true blue-chip guys makes the debate lively.

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    Re: VOTE - Ottawa Senators Top Prospects: #1 (2015)

    Post by NEELY on Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:01 pm

    In the current draft year? 100%, 1st rounders get the hype. In this pole I went with Paul though because you know he's going to be an NHLer.

    White and Chabot, yip, put them ahead of a lot of others.
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    Re: VOTE - Ottawa Senators Top Prospects: #1 (2015)

    Post by PTFlea on Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:13 pm

    Flo The Action wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:It's the guy who has the most chance of succeeding in the NHL IMO. I picked White because of all the guys we have, I think when he makes the NHL he'll make the biggest impact.
    Really? I think there's a lot of debate about his upside. He's another guy that could also end up being a top 9. I don't know where I stand on him as well. It seems like he does a. Lot of things right but there's questions about his ability to manifacture offence. I guess it will be interesting to see how well the organization get these guys to develop. Without many pure skills type of guys it's not the same learning curve.


    I think a Top 9 that has all facets, including skill, grit, 2-way play, physicality etc. will win out over a Dallas Stars approach where they have a ton of flash and dash in the top 6 without the 2-way play. I like to daydream about a Paul - White - Lazar line that's absolute hell to play against, then when that's done a 4th line comes out that has Pageau on it (if he doesn't get top 6 minutes by then).

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    Re: VOTE - Ottawa Senators Top Prospects: #1 (2015)

    Post by NEELY on Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:20 pm

    Ev wrote:you know even if you do the rankings by draft position only, it's still close to actual rankings IMO.

    Chabot
    White
    Puempel
    Gagne
    Englund
    Chlapik
    Prince
    Driedger
    Hogberg
    Paul
    Lindberg

    funny part of this is actually the bottom 2 guys moving up to the top 5.

    If I had to rank them it would be...

    Paul
    Wikstrand
    Puempel
    White
    Chabot
    Lingberg


    Those 6 then everyone else.
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    Re: VOTE - Ottawa Senators Top Prospects: #1 (2015)

    Post by LeCaptain on Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:21 pm

    Voted Puempel. I think in terms of offensive flair he's above everyone else. Loved him in Kitchener.
    Although I have no clue how White and Chabot play.

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    Re: VOTE - Ottawa Senators Top Prospects: #1 (2015)

    Post by NEELY on Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:26 pm

    Seen enough of Paul to believe he's the best player not playing for the Sens right now. The guy has absolutely everything, could maybe be a little faster but so can Ryan Getzlaf.
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    Re: VOTE - Ottawa Senators Top Prospects: #1 (2015)

    Post by Flo The Action on Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:29 pm

    I'd go with
    pumpel
    Paul
    Chabot
    White
    wilkstrand
    Prince
    O'connor
    Gagne
    Lingberg
    Claesson
    Chaplik

    Something like that.

    A lot of people overlook prince it seems. The guy has a good chance to crack the roster this year.
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    Re: VOTE - Ottawa Senators Top Prospects: #1 (2015)

    Post by PTFlea on Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:35 pm

    Flo The Action wrote:

    A lot of people overlook prince it seems. The guy has a good chance to crack the roster this year.

    Yeah, not sure why that is. 6th highest scorer in the AHL, one might even say he's shown more than Puempel.
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    Re: VOTE - Ottawa Senators Top Prospects: #1 (2015)

    Post by wprager on Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:47 pm

    Ev wrote:you know even if you do the rankings by draft position only, it's still close to actual rankings IMO.

    Chabot
    White
    Puempel
    Gagne
    Englund
    Chlapik
    Prince
    Driedger
    Hogberg
    Paul
    Lindberg

    Wikstrand?


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    Re: VOTE - Ottawa Senators Top Prospects: #1 (2015)

    Post by wprager on Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:57 pm

    NEELY wrote:Seen enough of Paul to believe he's the best player not playing for the Sens right now. The guy has absolutely everything, could maybe be a little faster but so can Ryan Getzlaf.

    Not to argue (as I voted Paul, too) but where have you "seen enough"? You've always discounted the WJC and, IIRC, you weren't exactly full of praise over his performance. Did you watch a lot of Battalion games?


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    Re: VOTE - Ottawa Senators Top Prospects: #1 (2015)

    Post by PTFlea on Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:20 pm

    How could anyone not be impressed with Paul at the WJC though? I understand it's not the best barometer, but he was damn good in all facets of the game.
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    Re: VOTE - Ottawa Senators Top Prospects: #1 (2015)

    Post by Ev on Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:40 pm

    wprager wrote:
    Ev wrote:you know even if you do the rankings by draft position only, it's still close to actual rankings IMO.

    Chabot
    White
    Puempel
    Gagne
    Englund
    Chlapik
    Prince
    Driedger
    Hogberg
    Paul
    Lindberg

    Wikstrand?

    He'd be close to last in terms of rankings based on draft position

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    Re: VOTE - Ottawa Senators Top Prospects: #1 (2015)

    Post by NEELY on Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:20 pm

    wprager wrote:
    NEELY wrote:Seen enough of Paul to believe he's the best player not playing for the Sens right now. The guy has absolutely everything, could maybe be a little faster but so can Ryan Getzlaf.

    Not to argue (as I voted Paul, too) but where have you "seen enough"? You've always discounted the WJC and, IIRC, you weren't exactly full of praise over his performance. Did you watch a lot of Battalion games?

    I watched a dozen or so on TV, usually the best player on the ice for them. WJC was just solid and he was really good, can't see a downside. Safest prospect at this point and potentially the best.

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