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Who is Ottawa's female parental unit diddling #4 prospect (under 25 NHL GP)?

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Ev

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1. Nick Paul (64%)
2. Matt Puempel (82%)
3. Mikael Wikstrand (44%)



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Flo The Action

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Chabot.

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White for me (he was actually my 3rd pick as well). If you look at the way the sens are gushing over him (specifically dorion), they know he fills a void and is not too far from being nhl ready. Not to take anything away from chabot though, he was their first pick probably with good reason but I think he needs more development time. Probably next year, he'll be 1 or 2 in terms of best prospect.

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It's been white from the beginning for me. Wikstrand is intriguing because he plays both sides as well.

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Don't understand how you can put White/Chabot ahead of Prince. Prince is currently at a point where he is much more likely to succeed in the NHL. Almost a point per game last season. White/Chabot all hype right now and the fact is we're basing our opinion on a few years of CHL experience and scout analysis.

Prince is more NHL ready and will have more of an impact at the NHL if given a chance over Chabot/White. Therefore he is a better prospect right now.

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DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Don't understand how you can put White/Chabot ahead of Prince. Prince is currently at a point where he is much more likely to succeed in the NHL. Almost a point per game last season. White/Chabot all hype right now and the fact is we're basing our opinion on a few years of CHL experience and scout analysis.

Prince is more NHL ready and will have more of an impact at the NHL if given a chance over Chabot/White. Therefore he is a better prospect right now.

I've said this before but if the Sens were trading a piece last June 26 would they want to trade Shane Prince or the 18th/21st pick? Would any team trade their first round pick to get Shane Prince? I don't think so.

Of course Prince is more NHL ready but that doesn't mean he's a better prospect. He's never been highly touted like Colin White. Will he have more of an impact at the NHL level than two guys taken in the Top 21 of a very good draft? Who knows but right now that's unlikely.

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I think O'Connor is a guy that should get a little more love so I am gonna give it to him. He's the guy the Sens have pegged as their future in nets and a #4 spot on a prospects ranking pole should reflect it.

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Ev wrote:
DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Don't understand how you can put White/Chabot ahead of Prince. Prince is currently at a point where he is much more likely to succeed in the NHL. Almost a point per game last season. White/Chabot all hype right now and the fact is we're basing our opinion on a few years of CHL experience and scout analysis.

Prince is more NHL ready and will have more of an impact at the NHL if given a chance over Chabot/White. Therefore he is a better prospect right now.

I've said this before but if the Sens were trading a piece last June 26 would they want to trade Shane Prince or the 18th/21st pick? Would any team trade their first round pick to get Shane Prince? I don't think so.

Of course Prince is more NHL ready but that doesn't mean he's a better prospect. He's never been highly touted like Colin White. Will he have more of an impact at the NHL level than two guys taken in the Top 21 of a very good draft? Who knows but right now that's unlikely.
First round picks are funny that way though. The minute you draft said player he isn't worth that 1st rounder anymore. You probably couldn't trade Chabot in January for a first rounder anymore. You're logic is flawed buddy.

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I think White is going to be a better NHLer than Prince despite Price being more NHL ready and even that's disputable.

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Flo The Action wrote:
Ev wrote:
DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Don't understand how you can put White/Chabot ahead of Prince. Prince is currently at a point where he is much more likely to succeed in the NHL. Almost a point per game last season. White/Chabot all hype right now and the fact is we're basing our opinion on a few years of CHL experience and scout analysis.

Prince is more NHL ready and will have more of an impact at the NHL if given a chance over Chabot/White. Therefore he is a better prospect right now.

I've said this before but if the Sens were trading a piece last June 26 would they want to trade Shane Prince or the 18th/21st pick? Would any team trade their first round pick to get Shane Prince? I don't think so.

Of course Prince is more NHL ready but that doesn't mean he's a better prospect. He's never been highly touted like Colin White. Will he have more of an impact at the NHL level than two guys taken in the Top 21 of a very good draft? Who knows but right now that's unlikely.
First round picks are funny that way though. The minute you draft said player he isn't worth that 1st rounder anymore. You probably couldn't trade Chabot in January for a first rounder anymore. You're logic is flawed buddy.

It's not flawed, but OK. If the player keeps on developing as expected than yes they would be worth a 1st next year.

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NEELY wrote:I think White is going to be a better NHLer than Prince despite Price being more NHL ready and even that's disputable.
Remains to be seen. From what I've heard he's looking like he'll probably be better defensively but offensive upsides remain to be seen.

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Ev wrote:
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Ev wrote:
DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Don't understand how you can put White/Chabot ahead of Prince. Prince is currently at a point where he is much more likely to succeed in the NHL. Almost a point per game last season. White/Chabot all hype right now and the fact is we're basing our opinion on a few years of CHL experience and scout analysis.

Prince is more NHL ready and will have more of an impact at the NHL if given a chance over Chabot/White. Therefore he is a better prospect right now.

I've said this before but if the Sens were trading a piece last June 26 would they want to trade Shane Prince or the 18th/21st pick? Would any team trade their first round pick to get Shane Prince? I don't think so.

Of course Prince is more NHL ready but that doesn't mean he's a better prospect. He's never been highly touted like Colin White. Will he have more of an impact at the NHL level than two guys taken in the Top 21 of a very good draft? Who knows but right now that's unlikely.
First round picks are funny that way though. The minute you draft said player he isn't worth that 1st rounder anymore. You probably couldn't trade Chabot in January for a first rounder anymore. You're logic is flawed buddy.

It's not flawed, but OK. If the player keeps on developing as expected than yes they would be worth a 1st next year.
It's arguable for sure but value can go down. And I would argue that more often than not value drops a little. With a great progressions from a player it might go up. But I doubt it's most often the case until there's proof the player will become something else.

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Flo The Action wrote:
Ev wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
Ev wrote:
DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Don't understand how you can put White/Chabot ahead of Prince. Prince is currently at a point where he is much more likely to succeed in the NHL. Almost a point per game last season. White/Chabot all hype right now and the fact is we're basing our opinion on a few years of CHL experience and scout analysis.

Prince is more NHL ready and will have more of an impact at the NHL if given a chance over Chabot/White. Therefore he is a better prospect right now.

I've said this before but if the Sens were trading a piece last June 26 would they want to trade Shane Prince or the 18th/21st pick? Would any team trade their first round pick to get Shane Prince? I don't think so.

Of course Prince is more NHL ready but that doesn't mean he's a better prospect. He's never been highly touted like Colin White. Will he have more of an impact at the NHL level than two guys taken in the Top 21 of a very good draft? Who knows but right now that's unlikely.
First round picks are funny that way though. The minute you draft said player he isn't worth that 1st rounder anymore. You probably couldn't trade Chabot in January for a first rounder anymore. You're logic is flawed buddy.

It's not flawed, but OK. If the player keeps on developing as expected than yes they would be worth a 1st next year.
It's arguable for sure but value can go down. And I would argue that more often than not value drops a little. With a great progressions from a player it might go up. But I doubt it's most often the case until there's proof the player will become something else.

the point is I am 100% positive the Sens would not trade Chabot or White for Prince if he was on another team.

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Ev wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
Ev wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
Ev wrote:
DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Don't understand how you can put White/Chabot ahead of Prince. Prince is currently at a point where he is much more likely to succeed in the NHL. Almost a point per game last season. White/Chabot all hype right now and the fact is we're basing our opinion on a few years of CHL experience and scout analysis.

Prince is more NHL ready and will have more of an impact at the NHL if given a chance over Chabot/White. Therefore he is a better prospect right now.

I've said this before but if the Sens were trading a piece last June 26 would they want to trade Shane Prince or the 18th/21st pick? Would any team trade their first round pick to get Shane Prince? I don't think so.

Of course Prince is more NHL ready but that doesn't mean he's a better prospect. He's never been highly touted like Colin White. Will he have more of an impact at the NHL level than two guys taken in the Top 21 of a very good draft? Who knows but right now that's unlikely.
First round picks are funny that way though. The minute you draft said player he isn't worth that 1st rounder anymore. You probably couldn't trade Chabot in January for a first rounder anymore. You're logic is flawed buddy.

It's not flawed, but OK. If the player keeps on developing as expected than yes they would be worth a 1st next year.
It's arguable for sure but value can go down. And I would argue that more often than not value drops a little. With a great progressions from a player it might go up. But I doubt it's most often the case until there's proof the player will become something else.

the point is I am 100% positive the Sens would not trade Chabot or White for Prince if he was on another team.
Sexy new toy. But yes they probably have more faith in the new product. They also don't have the said players in the organization for a few years to base an estimate on what they will become. So right now they only view their upside. With Prince they have a much better view of what they have. He was drafted in the 3rd round right? Well I'm sure they are still very happy with that move. He does seem poised to make the jump. That's a big win for the org.

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Flo The Action wrote:
Ev wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
Ev wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
Ev wrote:
DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Don't understand how you can put White/Chabot ahead of Prince. Prince is currently at a point where he is much more likely to succeed in the NHL. Almost a point per game last season. White/Chabot all hype right now and the fact is we're basing our opinion on a few years of CHL experience and scout analysis.

Prince is more NHL ready and will have more of an impact at the NHL if given a chance over Chabot/White. Therefore he is a better prospect right now.

I've said this before but if the Sens were trading a piece last June 26 would they want to trade Shane Prince or the 18th/21st pick? Would any team trade their first round pick to get Shane Prince? I don't think so.

Of course Prince is more NHL ready but that doesn't mean he's a better prospect. He's never been highly touted like Colin White. Will he have more of an impact at the NHL level than two guys taken in the Top 21 of a very good draft? Who knows but right now that's unlikely.
First round picks are funny that way though. The minute you draft said player he isn't worth that 1st rounder anymore. You probably couldn't trade Chabot in January for a first rounder anymore. You're logic is flawed buddy.

It's not flawed, but OK. If the player keeps on developing as expected than yes they would be worth a 1st next year.
It's arguable for sure but value can go down. And I would argue that more often than not value drops a little. With a great progressions from a player it might go up. But I doubt it's most often the case until there's proof the player will become something else.

the point is I am 100% positive the Sens would not trade Chabot or White for Prince if he was on another team.
Sexy new toy. But yes they probably have more faith in the new product. They also don't have the said players in the organization for a few years to base an estimate on what they will become. So right now they only view their upside. With Prince they have a much better view of what they have. He was drafted in the 3rd round right? Well I'm sure they are still very happy with that move. He does seem poised to make the jump. That's a big win for the org.

these guys are paid to evaluate talent for a living and project the player's upside. They have scouted their potential picks a ton. I projected Shane Prince as an NHLer myself and that will look correct, but his upside is not that of a Colin White or a top D like Thomas Chabot.

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