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16 Re: GUESS GAME: Hoffman's Term + Cap Hit on Mon Jul 27, 2015 7:00 pm

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One year, $3.2M via arbitration.

17 Re: GUESS GAME: Hoffman's Term + Cap Hit on Mon Jul 27, 2015 8:39 pm

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1yr 3.45m

18 Re: GUESS GAME: Hoffman's Term + Cap Hit on Mon Jul 27, 2015 8:46 pm

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Cap'n Clutch wrote:1yr 3.45m

Incomplete.

19 Re: GUESS GAME: Hoffman's Term + Cap Hit on Tue Jul 28, 2015 9:48 am

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8 yrs, $40M.

20 Re: GUESS GAME: Hoffman's Term + Cap Hit on Tue Jul 28, 2015 11:04 am

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tim1_2 wrote:8 yrs, $40M.

You must be talking about Hogberg.


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21 Re: GUESS GAME: Hoffman's Term + Cap Hit on Tue Jul 28, 2015 12:32 pm

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dennycrane wrote:Numbers announced tomorrow. My guess:
Hoffman - 3.75
Sens - 2.3

If it goes to arbitration, Hoffman gets 3.1. If they settle, look for 3 years, 9 million.

$1.75M (Sens) vs $3.4M (Hoff)

As I said in the sens thread, this is lowballing Hoffman, despite his deficiencies, guy scored 27 goals and led the team. He definitely deserves more than $2M.

For all that we're hearing, seems like both parties are only discussing one year deals (according to wayne scanlan).

22 Re: GUESS GAME: Hoffman's Term + Cap Hit on Tue Jul 28, 2015 12:47 pm

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1 year, 2.8 is my final guess. I rescind my 2 year guess.

23 Re: GUESS GAME: Hoffman's Term + Cap Hit on Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:59 pm

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SpezDispensed wrote:1 year, 2.8 is my final guess.  I rescind my 2 year guess.
too late.

24 Re: GUESS GAME: Hoffman's Term + Cap Hit on Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:53 pm

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He fully deserves more than 2. I think there is an understanding that for arbitration the player goes high and the team goes low although they have likely been negotiating a number somewhere in between. If Hoffman called up the Sens and said he would sign at 2.3, they would do it in a heartbeat. Look at Washington and Holtby (5.1 and 8.1). Both sides knew they wouldn't get that number but were preparing to try and establish a baseline with the arbitrator.

My guess is if it goes all the way, Hoffman gets 2.6.

25 Re: GUESS GAME: Hoffman's Term + Cap Hit on Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:36 pm

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dennycrane wrote:He fully deserves more than 2. I think there is an understanding that for arbitration the player goes high and the team goes low although they have likely been negotiating a number somewhere in between. If Hoffman called up the Sens and said he would sign at 2.3, they would do it in a heartbeat. Look at Washington and Holtby (5.1 and 8.1). Both sides knew they wouldn't get that number but were preparing to try and establish a baseline with the arbitrator.

My guess is if it goes all the way, Hoffman gets 2.6.
I doubt the Sens are interested in paying him more tha Stone's 2.25M.

If he is awarded more than 3M look for him to be dealt.

26 Re: GUESS GAME: Hoffman's Term + Cap Hit on Tue Jul 28, 2015 9:38 pm

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Stone's AAV is $3.5M.


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27 Re: GUESS GAME: Hoffman's Term + Cap Hit on Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:03 pm

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wprager wrote:Stone's AAV is $3.5M.
His pay this year is 2.25. AAV means nothing unless he signs a3 year deal

28 Re: GUESS GAME: Hoffman's Term + Cap Hit on Wed Jul 29, 2015 7:41 am

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Oglethorpe wrote:
dennycrane wrote:He fully deserves more than 2. I think there is an understanding that for arbitration the player goes high and the team goes low although they have likely been negotiating a number somewhere in between. If Hoffman called up the Sens and said he would sign at 2.3, they would do it in a heartbeat. Look at Washington and Holtby (5.1 and 8.1). Both sides knew they wouldn't get that number but were preparing to try and establish a baseline with the arbitrator.

My guess is if it goes all the way, Hoffman gets 2.6.
I doubt the Sens are interested in paying him more tha Stone's 2.25M.

If he is awarded more than 3M look for him to be dealt.  

I think it's silly to assume he'll be traded if he crosses that $3M mark. It's only a one-year contract. I'm not saying he won't be traded, I just don't think he'll be traded because of the arbitration ruling.

29 Re: GUESS GAME: Hoffman's Term + Cap Hit on Wed Jul 29, 2015 12:07 pm

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Oglethorpe wrote:
wprager wrote:Stone's AAV is $3.5M.
His pay this year is 2.25.  AAV means nothing unless he signs a3 year deal

Uh-oh. Ahhhhh! Ahhhhh!

30 Re: GUESS GAME: Hoffman's Term + Cap Hit on Wed Jul 29, 2015 12:12 pm

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tim1_2 wrote:
Oglethorpe wrote:
dennycrane wrote:He fully deserves more than 2. I think there is an understanding that for arbitration the player goes high and the team goes low although they have likely been negotiating a number somewhere in between. If Hoffman called up the Sens and said he would sign at 2.3, they would do it in a heartbeat. Look at Washington and Holtby (5.1 and 8.1). Both sides knew they wouldn't get that number but were preparing to try and establish a baseline with the arbitrator.

My guess is if it goes all the way, Hoffman gets 2.6.
I doubt the Sens are interested in paying him more tha Stone's 2.25M.

If he is awarded more than 3M look for him to be dealt.  

I think it's silly to assume he'll be traded if he crosses that $3M mark.  It's only a one-year contract.  I'm not saying he won't be traded, I just don't think he'll be traded because of the arbitration ruling.

No no, Budget Logic clearly dictates that the same player we'd love to have on our roster for $2.5 mil is one we'd have to ship off for spare parts if there's a $500k difference or whatever.

31 Re: GUESS GAME: Hoffman's Term + Cap Hit on Wed Jul 29, 2015 12:23 pm

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Oglethorpe wrote:
wprager wrote:Stone's AAV is $3.5M.
His pay this year is 2.25.  AAV means nothing unless he signs a3 year deal

Then we'll take up this discussion next year.


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32 Re: GUESS GAME: Hoffman's Term + Cap Hit on Wed Jul 29, 2015 12:24 pm

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tim1_2 wrote:
Oglethorpe wrote:
dennycrane wrote:He fully deserves more than 2. I think there is an understanding that for arbitration the player goes high and the team goes low although they have likely been negotiating a number somewhere in between. If Hoffman called up the Sens and said he would sign at 2.3, they would do it in a heartbeat. Look at Washington and Holtby (5.1 and 8.1). Both sides knew they wouldn't get that number but were preparing to try and establish a baseline with the arbitrator.

My guess is if it goes all the way, Hoffman gets 2.6.
I doubt the Sens are interested in paying him more tha Stone's 2.25M.

If he is awarded more than 3M look for him to be dealt.  

I think it's silly to assume he'll be traded if he crosses that $3M mark.  It's only a one-year contract.  I'm not saying he won't be traded, I just don't think he'll be traded because of the arbitration ruling.

Without silly assumptions we wouldn't have a message board. And SD wouldn't have that extra cash to buy a pack of gum.


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33 Re: GUESS GAME: Hoffman's Term + Cap Hit on Wed Jul 29, 2015 12:45 pm

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wprager wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:
Oglethorpe wrote:
dennycrane wrote:He fully deserves more than 2. I think there is an understanding that for arbitration the player goes high and the team goes low although they have likely been negotiating a number somewhere in between. If Hoffman called up the Sens and said he would sign at 2.3, they would do it in a heartbeat. Look at Washington and Holtby (5.1 and 8.1). Both sides knew they wouldn't get that number but were preparing to try and establish a baseline with the arbitrator.

My guess is if it goes all the way, Hoffman gets 2.6.
I doubt the Sens are interested in paying him more tha Stone's 2.25M.

If he is awarded more than 3M look for him to be dealt.  

I think it's silly to assume he'll be traded if he crosses that $3M mark.  It's only a one-year contract.  I'm not saying he won't be traded, I just don't think he'll be traded because of the arbitration ruling.

Without silly assumptions we wouldn't have a message board.  And SD wouldn't have that extra cash to buy a pack of gum.

Yeah? Gum costs nothing these days? Nice! Ahhhhh! Ahhhhh!

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