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    Toronto Blue Jays Talk

    Post by Ev on Thu Oct 01, 2015 12:45 pm

    Trout would be my MVP if Angels make it. He has nothing to work with
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    Re: Toronto Blue Jays Talk

    Post by tim1_2 on Thu Oct 01, 2015 12:57 pm

    wprager wrote:
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    wprager wrote:You keep saying "we" about a Toronto-based team.

    That was really dumb having the makeup double header when they were one away from clinching.  They would have had a chance at winning the second game if they were not thinking of celebrating.  Then their magic number for tops in the league would have been down to 2.

    It was ridiculous and compounded by the fact that they play in 30 minutes.

    There was no way around it.  I'd rather they play a silly double-header than tack an extra game on the end of the schedule and potentially mess with the pitching rotation going into game 1 of the first playoff series.

    They are playing the Orioles today.  Right now, in fact.  They should have made the double-header today (if they won game one yesterday).

    The reason they are playing the game right now instead of later today is because there is terrible weather heading Baltimore's way. You guys think the schedulers/powers that be didn't consider these types of possibilities? The important thing was to make up the game as soon as possible...not cater to post-game celebrations.
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    Re: Toronto Blue Jays Talk

    Post by PTFlea on Thu Oct 01, 2015 1:19 pm

    Ev wrote:Trout would be my MVP if Angels make it. He has nothing to work with

    Why? Donaldson has been incredible.
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    Re: Toronto Blue Jays Talk

    Post by Ev on Thu Oct 01, 2015 1:27 pm

    SpezDispensed wrote:
    Ev wrote:Trout would be my MVP if Angels make it. He has nothing to work with

    Why?  Donaldson has been incredible.

    Most valuable player isn't the best player (even though that is Trout in a general sense)
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    Re: Toronto Blue Jays Talk

    Post by PTFlea on Thu Oct 01, 2015 1:33 pm

    Ev wrote:
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    Ev wrote:Trout would be my MVP if Angels make it. He has nothing to work with

    Why?  Donaldson has been incredible.

    Most valuable player isn't the best player (even though that is Trout in  a general sense)

    Donaldson couldn't have done more to keep the Jays in the mix before they acquired Tulo, Price, Revere etc. He's the clear MVP in my eyes. Not even close.
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    Re: Toronto Blue Jays Talk

    Post by Ev on Thu Oct 01, 2015 1:47 pm

    SpezDispensed wrote:
    Ev wrote:
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    Ev wrote:Trout would be my MVP if Angels make it. He has nothing to work with

    Why?  Donaldson has been incredible.

    Most valuable player isn't the best player (even though that is Trout in  a general sense)

    Donaldson couldn't have done more to keep the Jays in the mix before they acquired Tulo, Price, Revere etc.  He's the clear MVP in my eyes.  Not even close.

    He already had Bautista, Edwin, etc. Trout had nobody expect Pujols who is batting 250.
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    Re: Toronto Blue Jays Talk

    Post by wprager on Thu Oct 01, 2015 2:34 pm

    Ev wrote:
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    Ev wrote:Trout would be my MVP if Angels make it. He has nothing to work with

    Why?  Donaldson has been incredible.

    Most valuable player isn't the best player (even though that is Trout in  a general sense)

    Pretty sure the award is for the League MVP, not the player most valuable to his team.


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    Re: Toronto Blue Jays Talk

    Post by wprager on Thu Oct 01, 2015 2:35 pm

    SpezDispensed wrote:
    Ev wrote:
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    Ev wrote:Trout would be my MVP if Angels make it. He has nothing to work with

    Why?  Donaldson has been incredible.

    Most valuable player isn't the best player (even though that is Trout in  a general sense)

    Donaldson couldn't have done more to keep the Jays in the mix before they acquired Tulo, Price, Revere etc.  He's the clear MVP in my eyes.  Not even close.

    Don't think it's fair to say that. It will be close.

    BTW, did anyone realize that Doughty had more first place votes for the Norris than Karlsson?


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    Re: Toronto Blue Jays Talk

    Post by Ev on Thu Oct 01, 2015 3:29 pm

    wprager wrote:
    Ev wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:
    Ev wrote:Trout would be my MVP if Angels make it. He has nothing to work with

    Why?  Donaldson has been incredible.

    Most valuable player isn't the best player (even though that is Trout in  a general sense)

    Pretty sure the award is for the League MVP, not the player most valuable to his team.

    the writers vote it as that though
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    Re: Toronto Blue Jays Talk

    Post by tim1_2 on Thu Oct 01, 2015 3:37 pm

    Awards voting is pretty silly at the best of times.  The Professional Hockey Writers Association votes on the Norris trophy.  The notable members of this association can be found here:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_Hockey_Writers%27_Association

    One of the listed members is the writer for the WORLD FAMOUS webpage www.FrozenRoyalty.net ...?

    Then there's a bunch of Toronto-based reporters...geniuses like Steve Simmons and (shudder) Damien Cox.  There's very few names I recognize on the list who I would count on to cast a reasonable ballot (Bobby Mac, Elliotte Friedman).  

    Anyway, I don't place any stock in these awards and neither should anyone with half a brain.  Unless our guys win (i.e. Karlsson), and then it means EVERYTHING!
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    Re: Toronto Blue Jays Talk

    Post by PTFlea on Thu Oct 01, 2015 3:57 pm

    At the end of the day, I don't really care if Donaldson wins the MVP or Price wins the Cy Young, or Antholpolis wins Executive of the Year, but from a fan's POV, I don't see how Trout could be voted for over JD.

    It's a personal award and we're going for something bigger obviously.
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    Re: Toronto Blue Jays Talk

    Post by tim1_2 on Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:09 am

    Tulo with a couple hits in his return to the lineup. I think he's getting today off and then will play in the last game of the season. The Jays are tied with the Royals for first overall, but I think they're taking the approach of resting guys versus chasing 1st overall.

    Playoffs start Thursday.
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    Re: Toronto Blue Jays Talk

    Post by PTFlea on Sat Oct 03, 2015 1:03 pm

    The royals have to pass us, they can't tie. We have the tiebreaker
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    Re: Toronto Blue Jays Talk

    Post by wprager on Sat Oct 03, 2015 1:50 pm

    "We" again. You live in Ottawa, man.


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    Re: Toronto Blue Jays Talk

    Post by PTFlea on Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:36 pm

    They're my team as much as the Senators are though. I don't know what to say. If Ottawa had an MLB team, that would be different I guess.

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