DAY #15: Sens @ Predators - 8:00pm - Tuesday Nov. 10 2015

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    Re: DAY #15: Sens @ Predators - 8:00pm - Tuesday Nov. 10 2015

    Post by PTFlea on Wed Nov 11, 2015 2:44 pm

    wprager wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:Who would we be parting with a first for?

    What about the former NHL D-men we have in Bingo -- Kostka (RHS) and Fraser (LHS).  

    Biggest thing that stands in the way of a trade is the current roster.  We have 7 D (plus Chris "I'm not dead yet; I'm feeling better; I think I'll go for a walk" Phillips) with a few more pushing for a spot.  It's one thing to say we can upgrade Cowen or Weircioch, but who would take either one?  With Cowen, his contract would make him hard to move to a team that's looking to shed cap space.  Weircioch is not really that far behind.  Any many-for-one deal we've been contemplating is not going to include either of them.  So that leaves Borowiecki and Wideman.  

    Wideman+Borowiecki plus forward prospect (Prince or Puempel) for Scandella.  Bring up Kostka as the RHS on the third pairing.  Throw in a pick if that's not enough.

    Karlsson-Methot
    Ceci-Scandella
    Kostka-Cowen/Weircioch

    Cap-wise this clears $2.6M for Minny and reduces the roster log jams by 1 up front and on the back-end for the Sens.  

    Nah to all this.

    Wiercioch can be moved easily.  I'm sure there's a few teams that would take him.

    Cowen is a CAP HIT of 3.1 million (real money 4.5), so a contender might look at him if we eat an expiring contract.  

    I doubt they move Cowen*, it's Wiercioch that's just sucking the life out of the lineup right now as a 'top 4' and frankly he's killing Ceci.

    Boro is the perfect number 6 guy and Methot/Karlsson are obviously good to go.

    It's the Wiercioch position that has to change, it's just not good enough.

    *unless Murray steps down, then it's game on.

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    Re: DAY #15: Sens @ Predators - 8:00pm - Tuesday Nov. 10 2015

    Post by LeCaptain on Wed Nov 11, 2015 3:12 pm

    Mendes is saying Karlsson is probably not 100%

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    Re: DAY #15: Sens @ Predators - 8:00pm - Tuesday Nov. 10 2015

    Post by Cap'n Clutch on Wed Nov 11, 2015 3:32 pm

    Blow it up?
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    Re: DAY #15: Sens @ Predators - 8:00pm - Tuesday Nov. 10 2015

    Post by wprager on Wed Nov 11, 2015 3:36 pm

    Yes, he's more like 110%. Of his weight. As in he's fat. #FatKarlsson.


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    Re: DAY #15: Sens @ Predators - 8:00pm - Tuesday Nov. 10 2015

    Post by tim1_2 on Wed Nov 11, 2015 3:36 pm

    So Kosta and Claesson then. I don't really care what is tried on D as long as they try something. The status quo isn't going to get us very far.
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    Re: DAY #15: Sens @ Predators - 8:00pm - Tuesday Nov. 10 2015

    Post by PTFlea on Wed Nov 11, 2015 3:40 pm

    LeCaptain wrote:Mendes is saying Karlsson is probably not 100%

    You can tell, he's slow skating up the ice, it's not his usual way of moving the puck. It's not all being out of shape, but that contributes I think.
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    Re: DAY #15: Sens @ Predators - 8:00pm - Tuesday Nov. 10 2015

    Post by PTFlea on Wed Nov 11, 2015 3:48 pm

    tim1_2 wrote:So Kosta and Claesson then.  I don't really care what is tried on D as long as they try something.  The status quo isn't going to get us very far.

    So we're gonna carry 10 D-men?
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    Re: DAY #15: Sens @ Predators - 8:00pm - Tuesday Nov. 10 2015

    Post by wprager on Wed Nov 11, 2015 4:06 pm

    Honestly, if Weir or Boro were waived I'm not sure either one would get claimed. But since both are on one-ways they're not going to do that.

    What we need is a good old-fashioned injury.


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    Re: DAY #15: Sens @ Predators - 8:00pm - Tuesday Nov. 10 2015

    Post by PTFlea on Wed Nov 11, 2015 4:15 pm

    wprager wrote:Honestly, if Weir or Boro were waived I'm not sure either one would get claimed.  But since both are on  one-ways they're not going to do that.

    What we need is a good old-fashioned injury.

    Wrong. They'd both be claimed. Especially Boro, who's a fantastic #6 warrior.

    People shouldn't be blaming Boro, it's Wiercioch who isn't a top 4 defender, although he duped everyone into thinking he was.
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    Re: DAY #15: Sens @ Predators - 8:00pm - Tuesday Nov. 10 2015

    Post by Flo The Action on Wed Nov 11, 2015 4:16 pm

    SpezDispensed wrote:
    LeCaptain wrote:Mendes is saying Karlsson is probably not 100%

    You can tell, he's slow skating up the ice, it's not his usual way of moving the puck.  It's not all being out of shape, but that contributes I think.
    Speculation if you ask me. There doesn't seem to be anything specifically wrong with him. Which leads me to wonder if he just didn't train the right way this summer. The way he was outplayed by jossi yesterday is error of judgement, apart from that his speed isn't exactly the same or he just can't maintain it.
    I'd be very surprised to learn there's an injury concern.in his case people like making excuses.
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    Re: DAY #15: Sens @ Predators - 8:00pm - Tuesday Nov. 10 2015

    Post by Flo The Action on Wed Nov 11, 2015 4:18 pm

    SpezDispensed wrote:
    wprager wrote:Honestly, if Weir or Boro were waived I'm not sure either one would get claimed.  But since both are on  one-ways they're not going to do that.

    What we need is a good old-fashioned injury.

    Wrong.  They'd both be claimed.  Especially Boro, who's a fantastic #6 warrior.

    People shouldn't be blaming Boro, it's Wiercioch who isn't a top 4 defender, although he duped everyone into thinking he was.
    I agree both would be claimed but both would be playing bottom 6 on a team. Boro isn't playing his fit side and that shows. Alternate between cowen and Boro and slide wideman in. You'll see a difference.
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    Re: DAY #15: Sens @ Predators - 8:00pm - Tuesday Nov. 10 2015

    Post by SeawaySensFan on Wed Nov 11, 2015 5:43 pm

    SpezDispensed wrote:
    LeCaptain wrote:Mendes is saying Karlsson is probably not 100%

    You can tell, he's slow skating up the ice, it's not his usual way of moving the puck.  It's not all being out of shape, but that contributes I think.

    And the excuses begin. Laugh1
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    Re: DAY #15: Sens @ Predators - 8:00pm - Tuesday Nov. 10 2015

    Post by LeCaptain on Wed Nov 11, 2015 5:51 pm

    There is not a single reason why Mendes would go out and say Karlsson is probably not 100% if he is.
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    Re: DAY #15: Sens @ Predators - 8:00pm - Tuesday Nov. 10 2015

    Post by Hoff-Machine on Wed Nov 11, 2015 6:27 pm

    normally I'd be there making the excuses, but karlsson's play this season has left a ton to be desired. It's actually been infuriating to see a player of his calibre play the way he has, let alone a captain. He seemed like he was rounding back into form but now he's getting embarrassed on a nightly basis. And we can make the argument that we need him in the lineup because of his offense but I remember another former captain who was good on offense but his defense left a lot to be desired....and we said 'what's the point of his offense if he is the cause of so many goals against?'

    No more excuses. If karlsson is hurt, then he needs to sit out and heal. If he didn't come prepared for the season, then that's on him and he deserves all the criticism coming his way. He's had it pretty good in ottawa but it's time to be a damn leader now.
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    Re: DAY #15: Sens @ Predators - 8:00pm - Tuesday Nov. 10 2015

    Post by SeawaySensFan on Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:26 am

    Michallica wrote:normally I'd be there making the excuses, but karlsson's play this season has left a ton to be desired.  It's actually been infuriating to see a player of his calibre play the way he has, let alone a captain. He seemed like he was rounding back into form but now he's getting embarrassed on a nightly basis.  And we can make the argument that we need him in the lineup because of his offense but I remember another former captain who was good on offense but his defense left a lot to be desired....and we said 'what's the point of his offense if he is the cause of so many goals against?'

    No more excuses.  If karlsson is hurt, then he needs to sit out and heal. If he didn't come prepared for the season, then that's on him and he deserves all the criticism coming his way.  He's had it pretty good in ottawa but it's time to be a damn leader now.

    Ian Sendes would never have the guts to speak such truth.

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