GAME DAY #43: Senators @ Capitals - 7:30 pm - Sunday, Jan 10 2016

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    Re: GAME DAY #43: Senators @ Capitals - 7:30 pm - Sunday, Jan 10 2016

    Post by spader on Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:44 pm

    Ev wrote:
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    Ev wrote:Hoffman really needs to be dealt for a dman though. I don't see how that move won't happen.

    We are not trading our top scorer for a defense man. That will not happen. Ever.

    You wanna bet? I couldn't care less that he's leading the team in scoring right now. He's streaky and you can find guys like him far easier than a great d man.

    They don't like Hoffman, and he doesn't have a great attitude. I see him gone soon. :crossarms:

    For example?

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    Post by tim1_2 on Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:01 pm

    Men vs boys lol Diddle

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    Re: GAME DAY #43: Senators @ Capitals - 7:30 pm - Sunday, Jan 10 2016

    Post by LeCaptain on Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:18 pm

    Ev wrote:
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    Ev wrote:Hoffman really needs to be dealt for a dman though. I don't see how that move won't happen.

    We are not trading our top scorer for a defense man. That will not happen. Ever.

    You wanna bet? I couldn't care less that he's leading the team in scoring right now. He's streaky and you can find guys like him far easier than a great d man.

    They don't like Hoffman, and he doesn't have a great attitude. I see him gone soon. :crossarms:

    Like most players in the league, and that's coming from your own mouth lol.
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    Re: GAME DAY #43: Senators @ Capitals - 7:30 pm - Sunday, Jan 10 2016

    Post by Flo The Action on Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:05 am

    Maybe this humiliating defeat will motivate BM to make a move. It's pretty obvious at this point this team isn't good enough.
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    Re: GAME DAY #43: Senators @ Capitals - 7:30 pm - Sunday, Jan 10 2016

    Post by PTFlea on Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:32 am

    I have a feeling Ev's right.  The D needs a huge move in order for us to take the next step - and that's even if Chabot hits his stride much earlier than is the norm.  

    Lot of variables, obviously but it seems like Hoffman is the guy who can garner you a legit dman that we need so badly to either play with karlsson and shift methot to Ceci or to play with Ceci.

    I don't think zib can get you that dman. Maybe with a pick or elite  prospect, but don't see it.
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    Post by PTFlea on Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:35 am

    Hoffman plus for Fowler?
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    Re: GAME DAY #43: Senators @ Capitals - 7:30 pm - Sunday, Jan 10 2016

    Post by Flo The Action on Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:50 am

    SpezDispensed wrote:I have a feeling Ev's right.  The D needs a huge move in order for us to take the next step - and that's even if Chabot hits his stride much earlier than is the norm.  

    Lot of variables, obviously but it seems like Hoffman is the guy who can garner you a legit dman that we need so badly to either play with karlsson and shift methot to Ceci or to play with Ceci.  

    I don't think zib can get you that dman. Maybe with a pick or elite  prospect, but don't see it.
    I think we'd likely feel the loss of Zib more. I don't see pageau or lazar as our number 2 C. But we might be able to slide someone on the left side if we lost Hoffman.
    Maybe BM is trying to add without having to subtract someone too important like Hoffman (no matter what EV thinks) but I don't know if we can do anything like that before it's too late for the season. Players for picks and prospects won't likely happen till nearer to the deadline at the earliest. We might be too far back by then.

    I like the idea of fowler.
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    Re: GAME DAY #43: Senators @ Capitals - 7:30 pm - Sunday, Jan 10 2016

    Post by SeawaySensFan on Mon Jan 11, 2016 4:52 am

    SpezDispensed wrote:I have a feeling Ev's right.  The D needs a huge move in order for us to take the next step - and that's even if Chabot hits his stride much earlier than is the norm.  

    Lot of variables, obviously but it seems like Hoffman is the guy who can garner you a legit dman that we need so badly to either play with karlsson and shift methot to Ceci or to play with Ceci.  

    I don't think zib can get you that dman. Maybe with a pick or elite  prospect, but don't see it.

    Karlsson is your best player and he's on the ice more than anyone and he's an offensive player. What you need is one or two more forwards that can actually contribute to finishing plays that he starts or that he controls. We don't have enough forwards that can keep up with Karlsson as it is so getting rid of Hoffman to essentially try to get more out of Ceci is a huge step backwards.
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    Re: GAME DAY #43: Senators @ Capitals - 7:30 pm - Sunday, Jan 10 2016

    Post by Ev on Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:25 am

    LeCaptain wrote:
    Ev wrote:
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    Ev wrote:Hoffman really needs to be dealt for a dman though. I don't see how that move won't happen.

    We are not trading our top scorer for a defense man. That will not happen. Ever.

    You wanna bet? I couldn't care less that he's leading the team in scoring right now. He's streaky and you can find guys like him far easier than a great d man.

    They don't like Hoffman, and he doesn't have a great attitude. I see him gone soon. :crossarms:

    Like most players in the league, and that's coming from your own mouth lol.

    Unlike other players, when he isn't scoring he isn't doing anything else
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    Re: GAME DAY #43: Senators @ Capitals - 7:30 pm - Sunday, Jan 10 2016

    Post by wprager on Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:26 am

    Woof. Didn't even bother watching. Stopped the PVR and deleted the recording. Feel sorry for Hammond but was any of that his own doing? I can't believe the played that poorly in front of him. Both teams played an OT game the day before so don't use that as an excuse. If I were Cameron, though, I would have swapped in Wideman for Boro (Washington is not a rough team but they have speed, and Boro on his wrong side is just bad for business). Get a puck mover in there who is not worn out and can clear the puck on his strong side. Then if any of the forwards looked like they needed a day off (Neil?) why not slot Chiasson in there. You are carrying two extra skaters, why not use them on the back-to-back games.

    Geez, I completely forgot about Cowen.


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    Re: GAME DAY #43: Senators @ Capitals - 7:30 pm - Sunday, Jan 10 2016

    Post by LeCaptain on Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:13 am

    Ev wrote:
    LeCaptain wrote:
    Ev wrote:
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    Ev wrote:Hoffman really needs to be dealt for a dman though. I don't see how that move won't happen.

    We are not trading our top scorer for a defense man. That will not happen. Ever.

    You wanna bet? I couldn't care less that he's leading the team in scoring right now. He's streaky and you can find guys like him far easier than a great d man.

    They don't like Hoffman, and he doesn't have a great attitude. I see him gone soon. :crossarms:

    Like most players in the league, and that's coming from your own mouth lol.

    Unlike other players, when he isn't scoring he isn't doing anything else

    Like Kessel who you'd take on your team
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    Post by SeawaySensFan on Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:41 am

    wprager wrote:Woof. Didn't even bother watching.  Stopped the PVR and deleted the recording. Feel sorry for Hammond but was any of that his own doing?  I can't believe the played that poorly in front of him.  Both teams played an OT game the day before so don't use that as an excuse.  If I were Cameron, though, I would have swapped in Wideman for Boro (Washington is not a rough team but they have speed, and Boro on his wrong side is just bad for business).  Get a puck mover in there who is not worn out and can clear the puck on his strong side.  Then if any of the forwards looked like they needed a day off (Neil?) why not slot Chiasson in there.  You are carrying two extra skaters, why not use them on the back-to-back games.

    Geez, I completely forgot about Cowen.

    I expect Cowen to be gone this week. Chiasson too.
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    Re: GAME DAY #43: Senators @ Capitals - 7:30 pm - Sunday, Jan 10 2016

    Post by wprager on Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:53 am

    SeawaySensFan wrote:
    wprager wrote:Woof. Didn't even bother watching.  Stopped the PVR and deleted the recording. Feel sorry for Hammond but was any of that his own doing?  I can't believe the played that poorly in front of him.  Both teams played an OT game the day before so don't use that as an excuse.  If I were Cameron, though, I would have swapped in Wideman for Boro (Washington is not a rough team but they have speed, and Boro on his wrong side is just bad for business).  Get a puck mover in there who is not worn out and can clear the puck on his strong side.  Then if any of the forwards looked like they needed a day off (Neil?) why not slot Chiasson in there.  You are carrying two extra skaters, why not use them on the back-to-back games.

    Geez, I completely forgot about Cowen.

    I expect Cowen to be gone this week. Chiasson too.

    Wishful thinking or hearing something?


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    Re: GAME DAY #43: Senators @ Capitals - 7:30 pm - Sunday, Jan 10 2016

    Post by spader on Mon Jan 11, 2016 9:59 am

    Ev wrote:
    LeCaptain wrote:
    Ev wrote:
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    Ev wrote:Hoffman really needs to be dealt for a dman though. I don't see how that move won't happen.

    We are not trading our top scorer for a defense man. That will not happen. Ever.

    You wanna bet? I couldn't care less that he's leading the team in scoring right now. He's streaky and you can find guys like him far easier than a great d man.

    They don't like Hoffman, and he doesn't have a great attitude. I see him gone soon. :crossarms:

    Like most players in the league, and that's coming from your own mouth lol.

    Unlike other players, when he isn't scoring he isn't doing anything else

    I call BS. I've seen Hoff rushing back to backcheck and interrupting the other team in our zone. Sure, he has bad games, but I don't know why he gets such a bad rap.
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    Post by PTFlea on Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:22 am

    Poor claesson has looked crappy the last few games too.
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    Re: GAME DAY #43: Senators @ Capitals - 7:30 pm - Sunday, Jan 10 2016

    Post by tim1_2 on Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:26 am

    SpezDispensed wrote:Poor claesson has looked crappy the last few games too.

    He's had a few brutal giveaways...wouldn't be totally surprised to see him returned to Bingo and Wideman back in our lineup.
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    Re: GAME DAY #43: Senators @ Capitals - 7:30 pm - Sunday, Jan 10 2016

    Post by wprager on Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:30 am

    spader wrote:
    Ev wrote:
    LeCaptain wrote:
    Ev wrote:
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    Ev wrote:Hoffman really needs to be dealt for a dman though. I don't see how that move won't happen.

    We are not trading our top scorer for a defense man. That will not happen. Ever.

    You wanna bet? I couldn't care less that he's leading the team in scoring right now. He's streaky and you can find guys like him far easier than a great d man.

    They don't like Hoffman, and he doesn't have a great attitude. I see him gone soon. :crossarms:

    Like most players in the league, and that's coming from your own mouth lol.

    Unlike other players, when he isn't scoring he isn't doing anything else

    I call BS. I've seen Hoff rushing back to backcheck and interrupting the other team in our zone. Sure, he has bad games, but I don't know why he gets such a bad rap.

    Definite bias, there. Hoffman is not Toews, that's true. He's also not a defensive liability. In his first full season in the NHL he was the second best forward in +/- (Stone was +21, then Hoffman at +16); this year he is leading the entire team at +11. He was a combined -2 in his first 4 games spread over 2 seasons, then -2 in 25 games in 2013-14, but as a regular NHLer he has consistently been in the positive.

    Now, granted, his ice time is managed so he's not playing against the best opposition and likely gets a lot of offensive zone starts, but then he's not being paid like a Toews, either. He is what he is, and he's quite good at it.


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    Re: GAME DAY #43: Senators @ Capitals - 7:30 pm - Sunday, Jan 10 2016

    Post by Ev on Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:39 am

    I like Hoffman, I just have zero interest in giving him more than $5.5 million for 3-4 years.

    he's gonna pack it in once he gets a long-term deal. I can tell.

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