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    Re: 2016 NHL Draft Discussion

    Post by PTFlea on Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:59 pm

    Flo The Action wrote:http://futureconsiderations.ca/fc-releases-final-ranking-for-2016-nhl-draft/

    This is an interesting list that values the players I like (which makes me believe we might not get them) but in my opinion might overvalue chychrun. I keep hearing he might be ahead of his development curve and might not have increasingly more to give.

    Diddle that guy sounds so good. He's big, calm, great shot apparently. He's also luke Richardson 's nephew funnily enough.

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    Re: 2016 NHL Draft Discussion

    Post by PTFlea on Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:59 pm

    http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=243386

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    Re: 2016 NHL Draft Discussion

    Post by PTFlea on Tue Jun 14, 2016 12:06 am

    SERGACHYOV, Yost, brown, so many choices.
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    Re: 2016 NHL Draft Discussion

    Post by Flo The Action on Tue Jun 14, 2016 12:26 am

    SpezDispensed wrote:SERGACHYOV, Yost, brown, so many choices.
    Yeah. Without a doubt we are getting a player. I'm not super hot on Brown. Seems like his size is a major aspect of why people talk about him but apperently he's not overly physical, likely not going to be more if he doesnt playing against easier competition.
    Seems like he's good defensively but I rather not draft a guy that ends up being a third line center. Let's go for either high skill level or top pairing Dman. Preferably forward if you ask me. But could be good to draft someone that can replace karlsson when he leaves. Sarcasm Facepalm
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    Re: 2016 NHL Draft Discussion

    Post by Flo The Action on Tue Jun 14, 2016 12:45 am

    Sergachyov im gonna say is the guy that slides. Even if he is playing in NA there's the Russian factor. Might not be as powerful to get him sliding far but if he slides to us I bet he slides right passed. Maybe Boucher thinks differently with his time in Tampa.
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    Re: 2016 NHL Draft Discussion

    Post by Flo The Action on Tue Jun 14, 2016 12:46 am

    Also does anyone know if any players were invited to Ottawa after the combine?
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    Re: 2016 NHL Draft Discussion

    Post by wprager on Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:16 am

    SpezDispensed wrote:
    Flo The Action wrote:http://futureconsiderations.ca/fc-releases-final-ranking-for-2016-nhl-draft/

    This is an interesting list that values the players I like (which makes me believe we might not get them) but in my opinion might overvalue chychrun. I keep hearing he might be ahead of his development curve and might not have increasingly more to give.

    Diddle that guy sounds so good.  He's big, calm, great shot apparently.  He's also luke Richardson 's nephew funnily enough.

    I think when Flo said he might be ahead of his development that was not a good thing. It just means that he is closer to his ceiling right now than other 18 year olds.


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    Re: 2016 NHL Draft Discussion

    Post by wprager on Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:19 am

    I have this feeling the new regime will cool off on Swedes (not to the point of not drafting any, but certainly not as many as before); Russians have been off the menu for quite a while, perhaps it's time to check them out again. But it doesn't have to be a 1st round gamble.


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    Re: 2016 NHL Draft Discussion

    Post by PTFlea on Tue Jun 14, 2016 11:36 am

    I'd love that Russian D-man Sergachyov. Still high on Jost from what I know...
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    Re: 2016 NHL Draft Discussion

    Post by spader on Tue Jun 14, 2016 12:12 pm

    Brown's is the name I keep hearing, not that I have sources or anything. He's real interesting. Big frame.
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    Re: 2016 NHL Draft Discussion

    Post by PTFlea on Tue Jun 14, 2016 12:21 pm

    Yeah, don't mind the sounds of him either. There's a whole bunch around where we're picking. Chychrun still sounds very, very promising. Big dude, ice water in his veins, cannon of a shot, high IQ, pro ready frame....lots to like there. A replacement for Methot or Phaneuf.
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    Re: 2016 NHL Draft Discussion

    Post by Flo The Action on Tue Jun 14, 2016 12:34 pm

    SpezDispensed wrote:Yeah, don't mind the sounds of him either.  There's a whole bunch around where we're picking.  Chychrun still sounds very, very promising.  Big dude, ice water in his veins, cannon of a shot, high IQ, pro ready frame....lots to like there.  A replacement for Methot or Phaneuf.
    Both brown and chychrun scare me for the same reason. Less room to grow. Playing with kids. Might not be as effective in the NHL.
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    Re: 2016 NHL Draft Discussion

    Post by PTFlea on Tue Jun 14, 2016 12:37 pm

    Flo The Action wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:Yeah, don't mind the sounds of him either.  There's a whole bunch around where we're picking.  Chychrun still sounds very, very promising.  Big dude, ice water in his veins, cannon of a shot, high IQ, pro ready frame....lots to like there.  A replacement for Methot or Phaneuf.
    Both brown and chychrun scare me for the same reason. Less room to grow. Playing with kids. Might not be as effective in the NHL.

    Brown perhaps, but I'm not worried about that Chychrun kid. Sounds like he's gonna be a heck of a pro, but it's a crap shoot obviously.
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    Re: 2016 NHL Draft Discussion

    Post by Flo The Action on Tue Jun 14, 2016 7:01 pm

    SpezDispensed wrote:
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    SpezDispensed wrote:Yeah, don't mind the sounds of him either.  There's a whole bunch around where we're picking.  Chychrun still sounds very, very promising.  Big dude, ice water in his veins, cannon of a shot, high IQ, pro ready frame....lots to like there.  A replacement for Methot or Phaneuf.
    Both brown and chychrun scare me for the same reason. Less room to grow. Playing with kids. Might not be as effective in the NHL.

    Brown perhaps, but I'm not worried about that Chychrun kid.  Sounds like he's gonna be a heck of a pro, but it's a crap shoot obviously.

    Oh I agree. I'm not saying chychrun is gonna bust but I think there are bigger question marks there than other players. I personally have question marks on brown from what I've read. Just screams put 3rd liner to me.
    Then again I wasn't sure about monahan either and I seemed to be quite wrong there.
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    Re: 2016 NHL Draft Discussion

    Post by Ev on Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:29 pm

    Brown is legit top six with hockey sense and great skating. He will be a good player.
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    Re: 2016 NHL Draft Discussion

    Post by Flo The Action on Wed Jun 15, 2016 1:23 am

    Ev wrote:Brown is legit top six with hockey sense and great skating. He will be a good player.

    Seems like I'm not the only one that's not high on Brown
    http://the6thsens.com/2016-articles/senators-re-sign-alfie-as-sr-advisor-of-hockey-ops.html

    Not a big fan on 6th sens as he goes in and on about analytics way too much but I do think some of his opinions are valid.
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    Re: 2016 NHL Draft Discussion

    Post by Oglethorpe on Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:43 am

    Flo The Action wrote:
    Ev wrote:Brown is legit top six with hockey sense and great skating. He will be a good player.

    Seems like I'm not the only one that's not high on Brown
    http://the6thsens.com/2016-articles/senators-re-sign-alfie-as-sr-advisor-of-hockey-ops.html

    Not a big fan on 6th sens as he goes in and on about analytics way too much but I do think some of his opinions are valid.
    The 6th Sens opinion of Brown sounds like someone who has never watched him play a single game.
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    Re: 2016 NHL Draft Discussion

    Post by wprager on Wed Jun 15, 2016 7:47 am

    The kid is 6'6" at 18. Big players typically take longer to hit their stride. He increased his goals from his 1st year to the 2nd and doubled his assist totals. I know it's just 2 points on the graph, but isn't that the point?


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