GAME DAY #78: Senators @ Wild - 8:00 pm - Thursday, March 31 2016

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    Re: GAME DAY #78: Senators @ Wild - 8:00 pm - Thursday, March 31 2016

    Post by tim1_2 on Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:07 pm

    Bobby R with a terrible pass, the Wild player bobbles it, King Karl buries it.

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    Re: GAME DAY #78: Senators @ Wild - 8:00 pm - Thursday, March 31 2016

    Post by tim1_2 on Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:30 pm

    Craig Anderson was pretty great. And this Karlsson fellow too.

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    Re: GAME DAY #78: Senators @ Wild - 8:00 pm - Thursday, March 31 2016

    Post by PTFlea on Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:00 pm

    Ceci is playing some great hockey. His confidence looks sky high, he's got jump. Even without the fluke goal he had a big impact.

    I've also liked Zib lately too.
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    Re: GAME DAY #78: Senators @ Wild - 8:00 pm - Thursday, March 31 2016

    Post by spader on Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:40 pm

    JGP is super inconsistent, but when he has a good game... Vertigo slowclap
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    Re: GAME DAY #78: Senators @ Wild - 8:00 pm - Thursday, March 31 2016

    Post by PTFlea on Fri Apr 01, 2016 12:15 am

    He's pretty consistent for a third line C penalty killer. He's also only 23. I dunno...that kid is special.
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    Re: GAME DAY #78: Senators @ Wild - 8:00 pm - Thursday, March 31 2016

    Post by spader on Fri Apr 01, 2016 1:23 am

    SpezDispensed wrote:He's pretty consistent for a third line C penalty killer.  He's also only 23.  I dunno...that kid is special.

    I think he could end up in a permanent home on the second line, but I love that someone like that can legit play on the 3rd.
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    Re: GAME DAY #78: Senators @ Wild - 8:00 pm - Thursday, March 31 2016

    Post by SeawaySensFan on Fri Apr 01, 2016 1:58 am

    SpezDispensed wrote:Ceci is playing some great hockey.  His confidence looks sky high, he's got jump.  Even without the fluke goal he had a big impact.

    I've also liked Zib lately too.  

    Ceci is not very good. Nor is The Zibber. But you've already admitted that you don't watch games.

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    Re: GAME DAY #78: Senators @ Wild - 8:00 pm - Thursday, March 31 2016

    Post by tim1_2 on Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:30 am

    SeawaySensFan wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:Ceci is playing some great hockey.  His confidence looks sky high, he's got jump.  Even without the fluke goal he had a big impact.

    I've also liked Zib lately too.  

    Ceci is not very good. Nor is The Zibber. But you've already admitted that you don't watch games.


    Ceci had a couple terrible defensive plays (including getting outmuscled by Zach Parise on a goal) in this game, and his goal was absolute luck coupled with a terrible defensive play by Marco Scandella.
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    Re: GAME DAY #78: Senators @ Wild - 8:00 pm - Thursday, March 31 2016

    Post by PTFlea on Fri Apr 01, 2016 8:02 am

    tim1_2 wrote:
    SeawaySensFan wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:Ceci is playing some great hockey.  His confidence looks sky high, he's got jump.  Even without the fluke goal he had a big impact.

    I've also liked Zib lately too.  

    Ceci is not very good. Nor is The Zibber. But you've already admitted that you don't watch games.


    Ceci had a couple terrible defensive plays (including getting outmuscled by Zach Parise on a goal) in this game, and his goal was absolute luck coupled with a terrible defensive play by Marco Scandella.  

    There was a lot to like in his game last night. Way more positives

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    Re: GAME DAY #78: Senators @ Wild - 8:00 pm - Thursday, March 31 2016

    Post by DefenceWinsChampionships on Fri Apr 01, 2016 9:05 am

    SpezDispensed wrote:He's pretty consistent for a third line C penalty killer.  He's also only 23.  I dunno...that kid is special.

    He's the perfect 3C. IMO you go after a 1C, move Turris to 2C, and bring in a LW with a package including Hoff.

    This would signal a trade for Zib and/or you try him on LW if you can't bring in another LW via trade (Drouin).
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    Re: GAME DAY #78: Senators @ Wild - 8:00 pm - Thursday, March 31 2016

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    DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:He's pretty consistent for a third line C penalty killer.  He's also only 23.  I dunno...that kid is special.

    He's the perfect 3C. IMO you go after a 1C, move Turris to 2C, and bring in a LW with a package including Hoff.

    This would signal a trade for Zib and/or you try him on LW if you can't bring in another LW via trade (Drouin).

    Yeah, or settle for a big winger with experience. It may be near impossible to upgrade at C as much as I dream of Duchene.

    Starting to really wonder of karlsson can hang out with Eriksson and sell him on signing here. That guy would he perfect.

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    Re: GAME DAY #78: Senators @ Wild - 8:00 pm - Thursday, March 31 2016

    Post by DefenceWinsChampionships on Fri Apr 01, 2016 9:27 am

    SpezDispensed wrote:
    DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:He's pretty consistent for a third line C penalty killer.  He's also only 23.  I dunno...that kid is special.

    He's the perfect 3C. IMO you go after a 1C, move Turris to 2C, and bring in a LW with a package including Hoff.

    This would signal a trade for Zib and/or you try him on LW if you can't bring in another LW via trade (Drouin).

    Yeah,  or settle for a big winger with experience.   It may be near impossible to upgrade at C as much as I dream of Duchene.

    Starting to really wonder of karlsson can hang out with Eriksson and sell him on signing here.  That guy would he perfect.  

    He would be for sure. And Karlsson has been pretty vocal about Melnyk needing to add some talent
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    Re: GAME DAY #78: Senators @ Wild - 8:00 pm - Thursday, March 31 2016

    Post by PTFlea on Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:54 am

    It's gonna be expensive though. Probably to the tune of 6.5 x 4.
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    Re: GAME DAY #78: Senators @ Wild - 8:00 pm - Thursday, March 31 2016

    Post by wprager on Fri Apr 01, 2016 11:35 am

    tim1_2 wrote:
    SeawaySensFan wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:Ceci is playing some great hockey.  His confidence looks sky high, he's got jump.  Even without the fluke goal he had a big impact.

    I've also liked Zib lately too.  

    Ceci is not very good. Nor is The Zibber. But you've already admitted that you don't watch games.


    Ceci had a couple terrible defensive plays (including getting outmuscled by Zach Parise on a goal) in this game, and his goal was absolute luck coupled with a terrible defensive play by Marco Scandella.  

    If you call getting your head in a half-nelson being out-muscled, then yes. I thought Parisee and some other Wild forwards were getting away with a ton of contact that on other days would be called interference. This is the least-penalized team in the league, apparently, and if last night was any indication in what they usually get away with then that explains it.

    Some teams just get the short end of the stick from the refs and there's usually no explaining it. Other than the Clouston Effect.

    Yes, Ceci was lucky on the goal, and he had a couple of weak plays, defensively, but just before that goal I turned to my kid and said Ceci has been playing really well, for the most part.

    Harpur, on the other hand. OMG, love his size and the fact that he can skate, but he was so out of position a few times. On one play he ended up playing forward and Bobby covered back for him -- except that they were still in the defensive zone. Mind you, it's his first year in pro, he is a D-man and larger -- two factors that usually mean longer adjustment times to the NHL speed. His size and reach are still an advantage, but those alone will not let him dominate players like he did in junior. I hope he gets a couple more games.


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    Re: GAME DAY #78: Senators @ Wild - 8:00 pm - Thursday, March 31 2016

    Post by Flo The Action on Fri Apr 01, 2016 12:13 pm

    SpezDispensed wrote:It's gonna be expensive though.  Probably to the tune of 6.5 x 4.
    I think that sounds about right. He might be looking for longer term. Personally I can stomach that deal. He seems to have finally found his groove in Boston but I'm sure he would fair well in the Ottawa system since it's more offencive like it was in Dallas. Mind you who knows what the next coach will be preaching next year.
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    Re: GAME DAY #78: Senators @ Wild - 8:00 pm - Thursday, March 31 2016

    Post by PTFlea on Fri Apr 01, 2016 1:39 pm

    wprager wrote:
    tim1_2 wrote:
    SeawaySensFan wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:Ceci is playing some great hockey.  His confidence looks sky high, he's got jump.  Even without the fluke goal he had a big impact.

    I've also liked Zib lately too.  

    Ceci is not very good. Nor is The Zibber. But you've already admitted that you don't watch games.


    Ceci had a couple terrible defensive plays (including getting outmuscled by Zach Parise on a goal) in this game, and his goal was absolute luck coupled with a terrible defensive play by Marco Scandella.  

    If you call getting your head in a half-nelson being out-muscled, then yes.  I thought Parisee and some other Wild forwards were getting away with a ton of contact that on other days would be called interference.  This is the least-penalized team in the league, apparently, and if last night was any indication in what they usually get away with then that explains it.

    Some teams just get the short end of the stick from the refs and there's usually no explaining it.  Other than the Clouston Effect.

    Yes, Ceci was lucky on the goal, and he had a couple of weak plays, defensively, but just before that goal I turned to my kid and said Ceci has been playing really well, for the most part.

    Harpur, on the other hand.  OMG, love his size and the fact that he can skate, but he was so out of position a few times.  On one play he ended up playing forward and Bobby covered back for him -- except that they were still in the defensive zone.  Mind you, it's his first year in pro, he is a D-man and larger -- two factors that usually mean longer adjustment times to the NHL speed.  His size and reach are still an advantage, but those alone will not let him dominate players like he did in junior.  I hope he gets a couple more games.

    Agreed.
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    Re: GAME DAY #78: Senators @ Wild - 8:00 pm - Thursday, March 31 2016

    Post by PTFlea on Fri Apr 01, 2016 1:48 pm

    Flo The Action wrote:
    SpezDispensed wrote:It's gonna be expensive though.  Probably to the tune of 6.5 x 4.
    I think that sounds about right. He might be looking for longer term. Personally I can stomach that deal. He seems to have finally found his groove in Boston but I'm sure he would fair well in the Ottawa system since it's more offencive like it was in Dallas. Mind you who knows what the next coach will be preaching next year.

    I wish we could pay him 7 million for 3 years, but I doubt that flies. Personally can't see him getting a 5th year, but I'd be really nervous to pay him over 3 for that 5th year. So either 4 years 26 million or 5 years 29 million I guess.

    It's conceivable...still unlikely we can do it, but it's not completely outlandish
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    Re: GAME DAY #78: Senators @ Wild - 8:00 pm - Thursday, March 31 2016

    Post by tim1_2 on Fri Apr 01, 2016 1:52 pm

    There were positives. But his inability to outmuscle Parise cost us a goal against.

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